More censorship
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Started by TimNew - Oct. 12, 2021, 4:13 a.m.

The (National School Board Association) NSBA has decided parents disagreeing with them amounts to "Domestic Terrorism., and has asked the Biden Admin's DOJ to invoke the patriot act to reign them in. The DOJ, and presumptively some of our posters, agree.

I saw videos of parents singing the nation anthem and chanting "shame on you".   Obviously activities that demand a "Jackbooted" response,  right?

Don't get me wrong, in the event of actual threats and/or violence,  action should be taken. But such events seems to be very scarce in the compaint. 


AG Merrick Garland is at war with American families: Devine (nypost.com)


But Garland’s ominous memo last week directing the FBI to investigate parents as domestic terror threats was a big mistake. He cited no evidence for what he claims is a “disturbing spike in harassment, intimidation, and threats of violence” against school boards.

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By metmike - Oct. 12, 2021, 10:41 a.m.
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Excellent post Tim.

I'm in strong agreement with you on this.

Devine often makes some great common sense points.


By mcfarm - Oct. 12, 2021, 11:07 a.m.
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Tim we have school boards here in rural America actually shutting down debate. They say the public is just too harsh!!! Well imagine that. A bunch of school board and administrators all on board for such crap as CRT, climate change. equity and all the rest including what a former teacher even wrote right here on this forum..."these are my kids" holy crap who is guarding the chicken house and our kids from out of control bureaucrats simply happy to indoctrinate our kids. If the public is harsh the school board who cannot handle it should leave and also stay away from our kids.

OHH and do not get me started on cancelling Columbus day. People are nuts right now

By WxFollower - Oct. 12, 2021, 5:30 p.m.
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 Regarding Columbus Day, I have only recently learned about supposed atrocities CC was apparently responsible for, especially against native Americans.

mcfarm (since you brought it up) and others, what do you know about this? I was recently reading some very harsh things a lady was saying about CC because she has a significant Native American background. She was saying he committed genocide and she hates him for being a colonizer. Nobody would would ever condone that and I can understand her anger, but it does get me to wonder if most Americans such as myself would have even existed without CC coming to the Bahamas. And does it do any good to stay so angry about something that happened 500+ years ago? She lives a nice life with plentiful land now. Would she have all of this without CC's influence? This is all tricky. I'm fine with Biden formalizing Indigenous Peoples Day (I have nothing against Native Americans...why should I?) as a formal holiday on 10/11 although we know he's playing politics.


By metmike - Oct. 12, 2021, 10:48 p.m.
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Thanks for some thoughtful, objective statements Larry.

I too was only recently informed about the many  shocking CC atrocities, in fact right here at MarketForum by mcfarmer.

Then Tim came back to defend CC in that conversation with an equally impressive presentation of facts and as usual mcfarmer and Tim had a huge political and personal battle.

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/72830/

I have since read numerous articles on CC. Many seem to be intentionally trying to obliterate any type of recognition honors that he should get for his accomplishments with clearly one side versions that ignore positives.

Unlike something like COVID vaccines or climate science, where a person has tons of data and evidence that can shed an  authentic, objective light to lead us to the truth.........despite the 2 sided politics telling us 2 completely different stories, both appearing to be convincing.........there can be no such thing for the Chris Columbus story.

None of us will ever have access to information like that about CC.

We will only read and hear stories told by historians and others, many of them biased.  

When mcfarmer turned me on to the bad side of Columbus, I was shocked and immediately wanted him defrocked, feeling betrayed by society for misleading us and not telling us about his many atrocities. 

After reading much more, I got the strong impression that some of the articles were not so much accurate depictions or documentaries as much as they were intended to convince the reader that Columbus was actually like a miniature Hitler of his time(I know that's an exaggeration).

The objective was to smear Columbus because they stated almost nothing good about him........like he was an evil human with no positive attributes.

Granted, he apparently did some pretty bad things that make me respect him less but it was over 500 years ago and what was acceptable then and is not now gets him off the judgmental ethical hook for much  of the stuff. 

People in 1500 were not following the 2021 code of ethics. Slavery was legal and widespread. 

Some of the stuff sounds pretty bad by even 1500 standards but it appears that we will always have one group that wants to completely get rid of Columbus and another group that wants everything to stay the same and no definitive, reliable information to confirm whether all the bad stuff happened or didn't.

Like you, I'm great with creating an Indigenous Peoples Day.


By TimNew - Oct. 13, 2021, 4:06 a.m.
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Glad to see you agree MM.  Apparently you feel there is "Good Censorship" and "Bad Censorship".

Columbus was no saint,   but he was far from the demon that liberal propadanda depicts him as.  They base that entirely on the account of Francisco de Bobadilla, who was very interested in getting Columbus job.    He was discredited and died en route to Spain where he was to face the consequences of his slander.

But todays "educators" want to convince our youth that the US is nothing to be proud of so they will support the idea of tearing it down and rebulding it as a "leftist paradise"

Just one of the many reasons so many parents are protesting at school boards. 

But not to worry.   Nothing to see here.   We have unelected bureaucrats telling land owners if they can collect rent,  business owners whether or not they can open, what hours they may be open and how many customers they can have.  And now we have the FBI paying more attention to parents protesting at school board meetings than to ANTIFA or BLM.    I guess Biden et.al. feel these parents are more of a threat.  Guess it depends on the agenda.


BTW,  my biggest problem with McFarmer on this was that he actually took joy (his own words) in spreading these lies to children.

By mcfarm - Oct. 13, 2021, 8 a.m.
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oh no Tim it was much worse than that. Mcfarmer took joy in "spreading lies to "his children". and no parent was going to direct him what to teach. In fact he was so busy with this style indoctrination that he admitted little time for such things as the American revolution, the constitution, bill of rights etc.

By mcfarm - Oct. 13, 2021, 8:22 a.m.
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Yes I do find it very curious that we have parents at school board meetings, actually doing what they should be doing, being investigated as terrorists and every liberal is not screaming from the top of his lungs about how wrong that is, they are busy tearing down another historical figure. Might want to keep your eyes on the ball, before this whole thing burns down. On the other hand, it has been pointed out here that ugly result is exactly what libs want.

By metmike - Oct. 13, 2021, 12:16 p.m.
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"Apparently you feel there is "Good Censorship" and "Bad Censorship"."

Thanks Tim.....Absolutely.  Apparently, the only difference we have on this is about whether 200 posts in 5 months trying to convince people here that the vaccine doesn't work and that it kills people should be allowed to continue at that rate or not.  

Since the moderator didn't even warn you for calling him ignorant, let alone ban you but instead "encouraged" as usual peoples opinions that differed from him, then that should be pretty clear.

Not one post of the hundreds from the fairly tale Biden stole the election ridiculous narrative was censored.....despite the moderator being on the other side of the issue.

Here are just some of the ones that I had handy on a list from earlier.......no banning, no suspensions, not even a single warning generated.



mikelindells election tape            

                            11 responses |                

                Started by mcfarm - Feb. 6, 2021, 8:58 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/65299/

mike lindells election tape - MarketForum
Absolutely correct Mike. The election fraud business is profitable. Trump raised over 200 million in the month following the election while costing the taxpayers over 500 million complying with the demands made.
www.marketforum.com


https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/72115/

By metmike - March 17, 2021, 1:07 p.m.            

            Wonderful discussion here:

The truth about voter fraud:

https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/legacy/The%20Truth%20About%20Voter%20Fraud.pdf

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

                Maricopa audit            

                                         Started by wglassfo - July 7, 2021, 9:30 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/72061/


 Arizona recount            

                            5 responses |            

                Started by metmike - June 3, 2021, 5:34 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/70449/


                State election officials try to stop election audits            

                            6 responses |            

                Started by wglassfo - May 26, 2021, 4:22 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/70014/


Arizona Election audit.  My favorite story so far.            

                            22 responses |              

                Started by TimNew - May 21, 2021, 7:30 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/69771/


               Snake Oil Salesman Mike Lindell            

                            Started by metmike - May 13, 2021, 12:16 a.m.   

         https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/69324/


mikelindells election tape            

                            11 responses |                

                Started by mcfarm - Feb. 6, 2021, 8:58 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/65299/

                    


Election Fraud in Ga            

                           29 responses |          

                Started by TimNew - Dec. 5, 2020, 5:14 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62268/


                oh boy!   more vote-switching "evidence"            

                         9 responses |            

                                            Started by GunterK - Jan. 4, 2021, 10:02 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/63755/



Umm, we have a major problem here: "Trump Pressured GA Secretary of State to 'Find' Votes"

                15 responses |           

                Started by WxFollower - Jan. 3, 2021, 8:28 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/63694/

      Chart reading and the Election line chart for Wisconsin/Michigan            

                            16 responses |         

                Started by rockitck - Dec. 27, 2020, 11:23 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/63393/


 is this where we have come to as a country?            

                            17 responses |                

                Started by mcfarm - Dec. 19, 2020, 8:07 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/63002/


                forensic analysis of Dominiion software            

                            4 responses |             

                Started by GunterK - Dec. 15, 2020, 11:02 a.m.           

 https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62756/


                Wisconsin case: Trump side didn't think it was worth calling even a single witness.            

                            2 responses |               

                                            Started by WxFollower - Dec. 14, 2020, 3:21 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62730/


               

                Sedition Defined            

                            14 responses |            

                Started by joj - Dec. 12, 2020, 2:39 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62603/

              

  latest on the election            

                            8 responses |       

                Started by GunterK - Dec. 12, 2020, 7:46 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62634/



                mail in ballots explained again            

                            6 responses |              

                Started by mcfarm - Dec. 13, 2020, 7:40 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62662/


                supremes turn back Texas challenge            

                            15 responses |            

                Started by mcfarm - Dec. 11, 2020, 7:31 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62596/


                Dominion spokesperson says....            

                            7 responses |           

                Started by GunterK - Dec. 8, 2020, 8:29 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62426/


                Hi Mike            

                            26 responses |        

                                            Started by wglassfo - Dec. 8, 2020, 12:26 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62389/


              

                Is there a there there            

                            5 responses |           

                Started by wglassfo - Dec. 7, 2020, 4:40 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62373/


                the election.... "death by a thousand cuts"            

                            13 responses |      

                Started by GunterK - Dec. 3, 2020, 1:10 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62128/


                more anomolies explained            

                            6 responses |                

                Started by mcfarm - Dec. 6, 2020, 5:18 p.m.     

       https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62320/


                Votes manipulated            

                            22 responses |             

                Started by wglassfo - Dec. 1, 2020, 5:40 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62042/


                send all others home and then count the fake ballots?            

                            9 responses |             

                Started by mcfarm - Dec. 3, 2020, 10:35 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62206/


                Greetings from Dominion.... all is well            

                            4 responses |                

                Started by GunterK - Dec. 3, 2020, 11:16 a.m.         

   https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62142/


                Lin Wood Sidney Powell            

                                   Started by wglassfo - Dec. 2, 2020, 11:17 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62122/


                Fraud or perjury            

                            6 responses |                

                Started by wglassfo - Dec. 2, 2020, 6:58 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62105/


                dominion            

                            5 responses |         

                Started by mcfarm - Dec. 2, 2020, 10:45 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62081/


                Georgia GOP Election Official Speaks Out            

                           Started by joj - Dec. 2, 2020, 5:13 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62096/


                Chris Krebs Speaks Out            

                            12 responses |      

                Started by joj - Dec. 1, 2020, 7:05 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62024/


                Votes manipulated            

                            22 responses |       

                Started by wglassfo - Dec. 1, 2020, 5:40 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62042/


                reasons to wonder about the fruad            

                            12 responses |        

                                            Started by mcfarm - Nov. 29, 2020, 8:42 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/61936/


                Why this election was a fraud            

                            24 responses |                    

                                            Started by wglassfo - Nov. 26, 2020, 10:21 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/61803/

            

                       

                Re: Re: Capitol Insurrection News            

                           By metmike - Jan. 27, 2021, 9:55 p.m.           

 https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/64730/#64841



https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/72115/#72145

Arizona clown show continues 

2 responses |  

Started by metmike - Aug. 23, 2021, 12:36 p.m. 

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/74108/


Mike Lindell......a complete nut job! 

14 responses | 

Started by metmike - Aug. 6, 2021, 7:41 p.m.

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/73263/

By metmike - Oct. 13, 2021, 12:32 p.m.
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This one was actually my favorite conspiracy theory of all during the election steal big lie. The Nashville bombing/Fire. You just have to read it to appreciate it best.

It deserves to be in the Hall of Fame(Shame).


                could all or any othis be true.....election coincidences            

                            22 responses |               

                Started by mcfarm - Dec. 27, 2020, 8:29 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/63343/

You will note no warnings or suspensions even for this loony tunes stuff.



By mcfarm - Oct. 13, 2021, 9:45 p.m.
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wow. thanks MM for not suspending or warning me for asking a sincere question about a serious reported incident. That sounds a lot like the criminal Biden patting himself on the back for creating several major problems for America then falsely state that he solved the problem he created, or just have psaki run out and do it while you nap, same difference. Atleast I know now I was at risk back then, even though I did not know it or why for that matter.

By metmike - Oct. 13, 2021, 11:02 p.m.
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Thanks mcfarm!


Just helping to make it even more crystal clear that the policy is still  NO censorship...........and this was a super extreme, isolated outlier case. 

Even for topics that are pretty crazy wrong(like the Nashville bombing/fire)......even conspiracy theories that go on for months.........election steal.

Even for DIS/MIS information that is being sincerely asked about. I WANTED you guys to ask those questions mcfarm and appreciated the opportunity to clarify it for you. .........so you would be able to see the truth.

You did absolutely NOTHING wrong. There were no violations or warnings because of that.


By TimNew - Oct. 14, 2021, 3:04 a.m.
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"Apparently you feel there is "Good Censorship" and "Bad Censorship"."

Thanks Tim.....Absolutely.


Thats all you need to say.   So, is there good oppression and bad oppression?

Since censorship is at the base route of oppresion, (You really can't have oppression without censorship),  I guess you would have to say yes once again. 

 

By mcfarm - Oct. 14, 2021, 7:45 a.m.
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not that anyone would say the left is now well down that oppression road, on to indoctrination, banning public participation at such fundamental gatherings like school boards etc. They would never....oh crap they already have

By metmike - Oct. 14, 2021, 8:01 a.m.
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Thanks Tim!

Use whatever verbiage you want but actually  gunters message was not even  being censored.

Kris presented a similar skeptical  message(similar to mcfarms) and metmike even posted an article earlier this week that pointed out some countries in Europe temporarily suspending one of the vaccines because of safety concerns.

                FDA-Nordic Countries Suspending Moderna COVID Vaccine            

                     Started by metmike - Oct. 11, 2021, 6:50 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/76032/

I did this to show that ALL sides of this topic are always allowed here....including Gunters.

i did not take down one post or article that Gunter posted. ....so how can this be censorship?

Gunter was temporarily suspended from the forum for posting the same message.....200 friggin times and no matter how many times I asked him to cool it....he ignored me.

He even resigned 4 separate times over it......not because I said he couldn’t have that view but because he was getting frustrated at me confronting him with authentic science and data.....every  time.....every message was debunked and it was getting him upset enough to resign....4 times.

That isn’t normal behavior.

Then, he came back a week later after resigning and started posting anti COVID vaccine messages like a mad man again because he became obsessed at winning, what he considered a war about this message.

I contacted him several times personally and suggested he seek professional help and initially, he responded that he thought I was banning him and that was back in August.

If he was posting about his golf game that often, I would have asked him to cool it but he was passing on anti science DISinformation that I busted him on over and over and over and over and over.

None of that is censored here or was censored. Gunter is not censored. He can come back and post....... but not neurotically on one topic like a mad man, especially if it’s disinformation. He needs to sit out for his own mental health too because this was only reinforcing his problem. He needs to look at why he has fallen for numerous conspiracy theories in the past and pushed them here............for HIS own good.

I'm capable enough to blow conspiracy theories completely out of the water but I'm concerned about Gunter too. 

Gunter clearly is suffering from an obsessive compulsive disorder.....classic clinical OCD in fact.

It’s totally abnormal behavior that I just described and it was very disruptive to our forum. As his friend, i tolerated  him disrupting the forum for many weeks, even after drawing attention to it and contacting him personally by email, suggesting he seek professional help.

Where was the oppression and censorship that you keep whining about Tim?

You are allowed to post the same things that Gunter did.....just not 100 times between now and Christmas or I will start warning you when it gets to.....like 50 times in a month.

The best thing that we could do for Gunter is to stop enabling him. I apologized several times to the forum for enabling Gunter for so long and providing the environment here for his neurotic, destructive behavior.

I should have stepped in a long time ago but I thought confronting it with authentic science and data would end it.

Instead, it fed it with positive feedback to motivate Gunter to increase his posting to prove that he was right....no matter what he had to do to overwhelm anything I responded with.

I was wrong for handling it that way in this case. It worked every other time in 3.5 years.....authentic science and data........but we live and learn and this is one of the great things about being a moderator.....so many unique opportunities to learn about people!

By metmike - Oct. 14, 2021, 8:08 a.m.
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As far as good and bad censorship .......the N word is not allowed here. Neither is the F word, without me issuing a warning.

I can think of numerous others words or unacceptable racial slurs  but you get the idea.

Do you agree?

Again, Gunters messages were not censored. I am against most censorship in general  but had to take special actions to protect the forum from somebody that lost control....for his own good too.

By kris - Oct. 14, 2021, 5:07 p.m.
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Could we just stop beating the dead horse already, darn this is getting old.

By metmike - Oct. 14, 2021, 6:12 p.m.
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I'm good with that kris. We want to discuss topics that people are interested in without offending others if possible.

You will note that every time a new thread was started here in the month of October related to this.......who it was that started the threads below.

Since some of  the most recent ones have focused on challenging the moderators decision and squawking about censorship here..........you bet I'm going to elaborate out the wazoo to clarify points in order to make them crystal clear, which is what is being asked for.

And as part of our non censorship policy here that includes encouraging threads that disagree with the moderator.........I won't censor this topic because one poster is getting tired of it.

I know that you weren't asking for that, kris.

But I will ask other posters to please take note of kris's request and try to be respectful of his wishes on an extremely good/valid point of his.

If it goes to an extreme........like 50+ posts on this topic in the next 2 months.........then, I will be glad to reign it in with warnings to those obsessed with posting in that manner. 

It's extraordinarily unlikely to happen but I thought the same thing a year ago and have learned lots of new things about people since then. The only person that has ever gotten totally OCD about it to an extreme and completely refused to follow many nice requests for him to stop posting like that(in fact it caused the posting to INCREASE not decrease)...... is sitting in the temporary, NTR penalty box for another 2 weeks. After which he can post on anything again, including that topic but not OCD posting.

Don't worry Tim, you would have to post 10 times more about censoring to earn a similar spot and I would never want to do than anyway because Tim is a massively valuable contributor with high intelligence that makes great conservative  points and we want him and others to post whatever they want.


Sorry for another lengthy post on this same topic again which is getting so old but we are dialing in your request and explanating how it fits into the rules to be ultra transparent so everybody is on the same page. 

                More censorship            

                            16 responses |          

                Started by TimNew - Oct. 12, 2021, 4:13 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/76060/


                Another Stossell Home Run.  On censorship            

                            29 responses |               

                Started by TimNew - Oct. 9, 2021, 10:58 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/75944/


                I recall a time on Market Forum when..            

                            20 responses |             

                Started by TimNew - Oct. 8, 2021, 9:07 p.m.    

        https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/75939/


                Facebook Whistle Blower            

                            7 responses |                 

                                            Started by joj - Oct. 4, 2021, 11:05 a.m. 

           https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/75744/


                the "vaccine".. and forum rules            

                            4 responses |          

                Started by GunterK - Oct. 3, 2021, 2:10 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/75715/


                More of that Facebook Censorship so many seem to support.            

                            5 responses |       

                Started by TimNew - Oct. 2, 2021, 10:44 a.m.            

                      https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/75680/


                YouTube bans accounts with vaccine misinformation             

                            24 responses |     

                Started by metmike - Sept. 29, 2021, 3:36 p.m.   

         https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/75546/

By metmike - Oct. 14, 2021, 6:34 p.m.
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To others: You might want to read that last link on the previous page if you think the moderator is biased against Tim or Gunter or their positions.

By TimNew - Oct. 15, 2021, 4:12 a.m.
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When you ban/suspend someone for their opinion,  you are censoring them.

And I did not once see him use the "N' word or the "F" word.  Perhaps you could supply a list of "banned words" and provide a monthly, or even weekly update.  Such lists always expand.

You want this discussion to end?   Fine,   Be honest.  You support censorship in "approverd" forms and you engage in it and you think that's just swell..

By metmike - Oct. 15, 2021, 6:44 a.m.
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Tim,

This conversation can never be resolved to your satisfaction but I did my best. That’s all we can do.

Repeating the same things over is not going to change anything for you.

If you make a brand new point...then that’s different.

Kris made a new point that makes sense.

By TimNew - Oct. 16, 2021, 5:53 a.m.
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About what  I expected.    

With all due regards.

By cutworm - Oct. 16, 2021, 11:19 a.m.
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? Does Gunter have more post about "the jab" or does mike have more post about climate change? Don't know how to look that up. Just wondering.

By mcfarm - Oct. 16, 2021, 11:33 a.m.
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MM does have much more science on his argument but Gunter's game is still in the first inning

By metmike - Oct. 19, 2021, 5:46 p.m.
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"? Does Gunter have more post about "the jab" or does mike have more post about climate change? Don't know how to look that up. Just wondering."



I had stopped looking at that thread cutworm and just noticed your post or I would have responded much sooner but since you still need clarification with respect to my own posting on climate science, compared to Gunters posting........ here goes:

Mike has posted way more than Gunter over the past 3.5 years on climate. In fact, one of the big reasons that mike is here is to educate people about authentic climate science as an objective, independent atmospheric atmospheric scientist with 39 years of analyzing the weather/climate after graduating from the University of Michigan.


Not bragging but YOU were wondering, so I'm telling you.

I'm so committed to this that I save all my lessons here......and they are sincerely meant to be taken that way, not because I have a vendetta against the other side or want to smear them or to prove I'm right. The posts are intended to provide enlightenment using authentic science.

Here they are:

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/27864/

In fact, this is at the top for reasons that I resurrected MarketForum from being completely dead with almost no posts for months before I agreed to try to bring life back  in the Spring of 2018.

Here is that story:

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/75939/#76002

 https://www.marketforum.com/about/


I've always liked Gunter a great deal. He challenged my most prolific period every posting on any NTR topic ever this year in a field where he has zero expertise(medicine) ..........with the exception being that he's an expert in getting convinced to believe in conspiracy theories. These are the top 4 that I remembered.


https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/75431/#75520

Not only is he NOT an expert in virology, his posts showed repeatedly that he doesn't even understand it and he constantly rejected my corrections to his junk or distorted science........and some of his sources were the worst on the internet. He pushed that the vaccine changes your DNA for a long time and that the vaccine kills more people than COVID......and may still believe that last one.

I never censored 1 of his hundreds of posts. I don't censor opinions here, even if they are wrong and especially not because they disagree with me but Gunter was using the forum to propagandize with his junk science, anti government message to a favorable crowd that would follow his crap. It was psychologically damaging to him and I apologize for letting my personal friendship cause me to enable him and even encourage him to behave this way in the beginning.

When I asked him to cool it(even get professional help with 3 emails concerned about him) he instead, posted even more to prove that he was right to his audience. That's a classical, clinical case of OCD that's out of control and is affecting a person's relationships and life


Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD)

https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/obsessive-compulsive-disorder

"Many people who have OCD know that their thoughts and habits don’t make sense. They don’t do them because they enjoy them, but because they can’t quit. And if they stop, they feel so bad that they start again."

metmike: You guys may remember that Gunter was getting frustrated because I was correcting his crapola with authentic science and he resigned from the forum.............4 separate times. Then a week later, after each resignation, he  came back and posted even more furiously with his anti COVID vaccine stuff.

That's clearly abnormal behavior and I  recognized it and just identified it for you. Maybe you can learn something about what was driving Gunter if you open your minds.

But you loved his posts because they were anti Fauci, anti Biden, anti government, anti CDC......lining up exactly with how you guys think and he could have posted this 400 times or 1,000 times and you would not have minded. In fact, you would come for your Gunter posts of the day on this topic.

Nobody is banned from posting any of that stuff but the moderator has to take actions with regards to somebody that is waaaaaay out of control and with dangerous messages to boot. And my personal friendship with Gunter has altruistic intentions to not cause me or MarketForum to  enable him or be a source for his neurotic, unhealthy OCD behavior that was hurting him more than anyone.



By kris - Oct. 19, 2021, 9:38 p.m.
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For your viewing pleasure: 


"This is the continuing story of Peyton Place"

By metmike - Oct. 19, 2021, 11:15 p.m.
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You must be pretty old kris (-:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyton_Place_(TV_series)

Peyton Place is an American prime-time soap opera which aired on ABC in half-hour episodes from September 15, 1964, to June 2, 1969.

    

       

PEYTON PLACE:  EPISODE 1 (SERIES OPENER)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTQqqhZ9qd8

By kris - Oct. 20, 2021, 10:34 a.m.
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You must be pretty old kris (-:


Carlo: "Mike you got it all wrong ..."

By metmike - Oct. 20, 2021, 11:52 a.m.
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Or maybe you just take full advantage of the wonderful technology today and go back to watch old stuff!


The Godfather - Michael Settles All Family Business

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vZx7yF_a7M


The Godfather is a 1972 American crime film directed by Francis Ford Coppola, who co-wrote the screenplay with Mario Puzo, based on Puzo's best-selling 1969 novel of the same name. The film stars Marlon Brando, Al Pacino, James Caan, Richard Castellano, Robert Duvall, Sterling Hayden, John Marley, Richard Conte, and Diane Keaton. It is the first installment in The Godfather trilogy. The story, spanning from 1945 to 1955, chronicles the Corleone family under patriarch Vito Corleone (Brando), focusing on the transformation of his youngest son, Michael Corleone (Pacino), from reluctant family outsider to ruthless mafia boss.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Godfather

By kris - Oct. 20, 2021, 1:21 p.m.
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"Don't ask me about my business Mike"

By metmike - Oct. 20, 2021, 2:04 p.m.
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I'm supposed to be the one saying that (-:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjYYnKsNmtw