metmike: One of the most insane, impossible claims that he makes. There was no physical way....0% chance that China could have done this. The vote tabulating process did not involve hooking up to the internet at any time in many of these locations. Tens of million of republicans want to believe this.............and so they do. I'm not picking on republicans, mcfarm, I'm just stating a huge problem right now using facts.
I would bet my house against you car that he loses huge on the lawsuit against him by Dominion and his baseless, absurd counter suit will be completely tossed out.
This lunatic belongs in a place that protects society from people like this.
The chief executive of MyPillow Inc., one of Fox News’s big advertisers, said he is pulling his ads from the network after a disagreement over a proposed commercial.
Mike Lindell said he made the decision after Fox News declined to run a commercial linked to his efforts to promote his claims of widespread fraud in the 2020 presidential election. Security and election officials have said there is no proof of widespread election fraud.
“It’s unfortunate Mr. Lindell has chosen to pause his commercial time on FOX News given the level of success he’s experienced in building his brand through advertising on the number one cable news network,” Fox News said in a statement.
Previous Lindell nut job stuff:
mikelindells election tape
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Started by mcfarm - Feb. 6, 2021, 8:58 a.m.
I would like a sincere response from mcfarm and others of what their opinion is of Mike Lindell.
You will note that the sources/links above were from "Business Insider" and "The Wallstreet Journal"
I know very little about him. I do know he or his company makes a great product, that much is true. I know there were some irregularities in the election. What he has said was a reach from the start and he went too far, Does not make him the devil but foolish. I think I can safely say he is sincere in his love for this country and what it means to him. He has beat demons from his past and claims he is a saved man. Not going to question his religion and just hope he can put this mess behind him.
MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell, a staunch ally of former President Donald Trump and leading promoter of voter-fraud conspiracy theories, said he'd give $5 million to anyone who can disprove data that he claims shows election interference.
But there's a catch. To be eligible, you have to attend his upcoming cyber symposium, which is taking place in South Dakota between August 10 and 12.
And the event isn't open to the public, according to an ad for the event posted on Lindell's website Frank. Invitees include politicians, cybersecurity experts, and the media, though it will also be streamed for 72 hours on Frank.
Lindell said he wants the symposium to be the most-watched live event in history and is aiming for 1 billion people to watch it via his website, Salon's Zachary Petrizzo reported. He has reserved 800 rooms for the event, but few officials have said they will attend.
There is nothing to suggest Lindell's event will draw anywhere close to those numbers. For context, the most-watched Super Bowl drew around 114 million viewers, and the first 2020 presidential debate had about 73 million viewers.
A few weeks ago, Dartmouth University sociology professor Brooke Harrington wrote about the psychology of being conned. The context was vaccine skepticism, but the lessons she identifies very much apply to those who deny the actual results of the election, and to Lindell in particular.
She points to a 1952 study from Erving Goffman that explored how those who have been conned might be eased out of the fraud. Every con ends at some point, after all, and the target of the con is left suddenly standing in the harsh spotlight of reality.
“When the blowoff comes, the mark finds that he has no defense for not being a shrewd man,” Goffman wrote. “He has defined himself as a shrewd man and must face the fact that he is only another easy mark. He has defined himself as possessing a certain set of qualities and then proven to himself that he is miserably lacking in them. This is a process of self‑destruction of the self.”
Lindell presents this self-confidence repeatedly. On Thursday, CNN aired a report completely dismantling Lindell’s various claims. Notably, it pointed out that the places where he said elections were hacked by China did not have any parts of their election infrastructure connected to the Internet, and that the high-tech-sounding data packets Lindell’s “cyberexperts” have said prove fraud were, in fact, just random data. But as the Atlantic’s Anne Applebaum put it after interviewing him last month, Lindell remains “utterly impervious to any argument of any kind.”
“I’m not wrong,” Lindell insisted to CNN’s Drew Griffin after Griffin presented abundant evidence that Lindell’s claims were false. “I’ve checked it out. I’ve spent millions. You need to trust me and come there” — “there” being a “symposium” Lindell is hosting this month at which he will reportedly present his data packets for public consumption.
Do you know what data packets are? Here, Lindell is referring to information transmitted over the Internet that was reportedly captured by some unidentified person in the days after the election. You’re reading this online; the words I’ve written were plunked into a webpage, and that webpage was chopped into little bits of data that were sent to your computer or your phone. Lindell is saying that he has some packets capturing that sort of information transmission and, further, that those packets show vote-stealing.
I ask whether you know what data packets are because I feel pretty confident that Mike Lindell did not on Nov. 2, 2020. I feel pretty confident that he is still not entirely sure about it, based on how he credulously accepted claims about the packets in the first video in which this “evidence” was presented and based on his reaction to Griffin’s questions.
And that’s the point: If you’re a very rich person who is very interested in proving something to be true who then meets someone who tells you that this thing can be proved using some technological analysis that you admittedly don’t entirely understand, you might just pull out your checkbook. Am I saying that the “experts” Lindell is hiring are feeding him nonsense in exchange for a paycheck? No, I am saying that I can certainly see how a Naive and Credulous Millionaire might be viewed as a lucrative mark for a Theoretical Unscrupulous Hustler. That’s all.
Lindell, data-packet printouts in hand, considers himself very shrewd.
(An aside: If Lindell provided CNN with printouts of data to bolster his claims, as appears to be the case, this is indisputably evidence that Lindell doesn’t know anything about validating data and very likely evidence that whoever provided him with those printouts was not particularly interested in having the data validated. It’s like telling someone to figure out what’s wrong with your car’s engine and then showing them a photo of the vehicle.)
For a certain type of unpleasant person — like myself — parsing and dismantling dubious claims provide some fun. But this particular deception in which Lindell is enmeshed is incredibly fraught.
The acute risk of claiming that the election was stolen is that people might act in dangerous ways in response to that belief. The obvious example is what happened at the Capitol on Jan. 6, a violent riot spurred by the incorrect belief that the election had been stolen. Lindell (and former president Donald Trump, of course) continue to stoke the idea that rampant fraud occurred, fostering a sense that some extreme action might need to be taken to reverse the world-historic theft that this implies. That threat lingers with Lindell’s claims that Trump will somehow be reinstated as president (he absolutely will not) and with ongoing efforts to undercut the election results, as remain underway in Arizona.
The long-term danger is that Lindell is contributing to a sense that election results aren’t reliable, which is also false. There is no evidence that rampant fraud occurs at all in American elections, much less that it occurred in 2020 without yet being proved — despite all of the looking. But even if the agitation over 2020 passes, Lindell and Trump are making it very easy for people (or partisan officials) to respond to the 2022 or 2024 elections by simply assuming that results they don’t like were invalid, an assumption that has no merit based on recent elections.
The American experiment hinges on trust in elections to a very real extent. And Lindell is actively trying to undermine that trust, pretty clearly because he actually incorrectly believes that trust isn’t warranted.
CNN’s Griffin pointed out the downside risk to the businessman.
“The people who have watched your video believe what you say,” Griffin said. “If you’re wrong, isn’t that very dangerous?”
That’s what prompted Lindell’s “I’m not wrong” response — and his defensive insistence that he had “spent millions” in support of his position. This is essentially the sunk-cost fallacy, the idea that he has invested so much that he is just going to keep pressing forward instead of cutting bait. But it also shows how Lindell equates level of investment with level of confidence, a conflation that would have any Theoretical Unscrupulous Hustler rubbing his hands giddily.
It’s important to again reiterate that Lindell has no credible evidence of fraud. His claims that there are “packets” showing votes being stolen itself doesn’t make any sense. What is the data — text snippets saying “move 14,000 votes from Trump to Joe Biden”? Is it simply updates on counted votes reported by news organizations, as was the case with the “proof” of fraud presented by one conspiracy website? Is it just garbage, packaged as a big conspiracy at the Election Fraud Store for its best customer?
It’s all pathetic, in the classic, pitiful sense of the term. But it’s also convincing a lot of people who also want to believe that it’s true. The process of helping people recover from such a hustle is complicated enough that it has been the subject of sociological analysis for 70 years. There’s no easy answer."
metmike: Nothing but bad things are coming from this..........other than exposing Lindell. The author of this article suggests that Lindell is actually getting bamboozled. I find that hard to believe. I believe Lindell is nothing but a con artist, that made tens of millions convincing people to buy his pillows by embelling on the product to gullible people who watched his advertisements and believed them. Now, he is using a similar tactic to convince gullible people to buy his total bs scam about the election...because he wants to help Trump......who helped Lindell get to where he is with numerous endorsements of Lindell.
2 more days until Trump is reinstated..............according to Lindell.
SIOUX FALLS, S.D. (Dakota News Now) - My Pillow founder Mike Lindell kicked off his three-day cyber symposium Tuesday in Sioux Falls.
Lindell says over the next three days, he will prove that the 2020 presidential election was hacked by a foreign country.
But he claims the event was the victim of hacking itself. He said the symposium’s website, which includes a live stream of the event was hacked, which led to a delay in the program Tuesday morning.
Lindell never provided any evidence of the alleged hacking.
Lindell claims to have the entirety of the presidential election results in the form of packet captures from all 50 states.
‘THIS NEVER STOPS!’
The pro-Trump pillow magnate’s latest event meant to provide evidence for his election lies has been nothing short of a total shitshow.
metmike: How does something like this exist in an enlightened world with people having access to all the authentic facts???
Just a reminder, when Lindell broke into the internet with his first video presentation, this was the response here:
mikelindells election tape
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Started by mcfarm - Feb. 6, 2021, 8:58 a.m.
Previous news not covered here:
Lindell's latest complaint featured references to dystopian novels and William Shakespeare. One of the included quotes is attributed to Ray Bradbury's "Fahrenheit 451": "But you can't make people listen. They have to come round in their own time, wondering what happened and why the world blew up around them. It can't last." Another quote is from George Orwell's classic novel "1984."
Legal experts have spoken out about Lindell's latest filing. These included attorney Akiva Cohen, who described it as "craptastic" and "half-assed" in a series of tweets.
He called Gableman’s trips “a disgusting use of taxpayers’ money.”
“Whatever report he’s going to produce isn’t going to be worth the paper it’s printed on,” Erpenbach said.
Josh Merritt calls Lindell’s data ”a turd“
"Former senior National Security Agency analyst and whitstleblower J. Kirk Wiebe told the Times that the scrolling text on display was probably meant to resemble “packet captures,” but wasn’t the real deal.
Merritt maintained that the data did contain important “forensic” evidence, but concluded, “We were handed a turd and I had to take that turd and turn it into a diamond and that’s what I think we did.”
The symposium was the latest stunt by Lindell, who continues to falsely claim the 2020 election was stolen. His other efforts have included his own “documentary” on the election and regular appearances on right-wing OAN."