It’s time for a new Iran War thread.
I just read that the Sec of Navy may have been fired because he didn’t agree with silencing the great American, Sen Mark Kelly:
“BREAKING: Fox News just reported that Pete Hegseth fired United States Secretary of the Navy John Phelan because Phelan would not ignore a federal judge's orders!’Hegseth and Phelan reportedly butted heads when Phelan refused to ignore a recent federal judge’s ruling that said punishing Senator Mark Kelly for making a video which he reminded military officers of their constitutional duty to not to not follow illegal orders would violate his First Amendment rights.’”
Thanks, Larry!
How Netanyahu used Donald Trump for his war
Started by metmike - April 10, 2026, 4:10 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119441/
These were the previous Iran titled threads:
Iran war 4-8-26
55 responses |
Started by metmike - April 8, 2026, 9:16 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119356/
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Iran War 3/25/26+ (cont. from 3/8-25/26 thread)
52 responses |
Started by WxFollower - March 25, 2026, 8:01 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/118980/
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Israel attacks Iran-just in
81 responses |
Started by metmike - Feb. 28, 2026, 1:33 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/118250/
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Additional threads related to this:
Iran nuclear weapons false narrative-new
Started by metmike - April 25, 2026, 9:07 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119788/
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Most Devious yet!
Started by metmike - April 22, 2026, 9:23 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119747/
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Mark Levin
Started by metmike - March 29, 2026, 12:39 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119065/
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Easter weekend message
Started by metmike - April 4, 2026, 11:26 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119221/#119227
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Continuing the purge of qualified people
Started by metmike - April 5, 2026, 6:53 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119258/
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Choosing MAGA/Donald Trump or Jesus
51 responses |
Started by metmike - Jan. 28, 2026, 5:06 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/117561/
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Psychopaths in Power
Started by metmike - Jan. 20, 2026, 9:33 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/117371/
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Opinions vs authentic facts
Started by metmike - March 13, 2026, 11:24 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/118642/
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Allied Countries helping Trump
Started by metmike - March 18, 2026, 7:57 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/118814/
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Donald Trump's Diagnosis NAILED!
29 responses |
Started by metmike - April 6, 2026, 9:44 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119295/
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Trump accuses Democrats of ‘seditious behavior, punishable by death’
Started by metmike - Nov. 20, 2025, 8:12 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/116090/
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/116090/#119285
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Trump's bombing countries illegally
Started by metmike - March 4, 2026, 8:45 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/118393/
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Psychopaths
Started by metmike - March 16, 2026, 10:50 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/118728/
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Powers of the President
Started by metmike - Jan. 31, 2026, 11:21 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/117653/
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Partners in crime Netanyahu and Trump
Started by metmike - March 6, 2026, 2:32 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/118410/
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Israel committing genocide in Lebanon
Started by metmike - April 7, 2026, 11:58 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119319/
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Antisemitism is WRONG!
74 responses |
Started by metmike - April 23, 2024, 11:36 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/103460/
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Most important message to get from MarketForum:
Hate (and love)
Started by metmike - Oct. 17, 2023, 4:15 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/99752/
By metmike - April 24, 2026, 11:02 a.m.
Trump accuses Democrats of ‘seditious behavior,
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/116090/
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Least qualified Secretary of Defense in history-Hegseth
Started by metmike - Oct. 14, 2025, 6:11 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/115244/
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Trump calls for using US cities as a ‘training ground’ for military
20 responses |
Started by metmike - Sept. 30, 2025, 10:36 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/115003/
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https://lucid.substack.com/p/pete-hegseth-and-the-autocratic-strategy ...
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Houthi war plans discussed on group chat that included journalist
42 responses |
Started by WxFollower - March 26, 2025, 10 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/110679/
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Continuing the purge of qualified people
7 responses |
Started by metmike - April 5, 2026, 6:53 p.m.
By metmike - April 24, 2026, 11:06 a.m.
Hegseth got this job by being a weekend anchor at Fox News who adulated Trump during his time there!
Pirro is the 23rd current or former Fox News employee Trump has recruited for his administration since taking office earlier this year. However, his relationship with the network runs far deeper and longer than just this year nominees.
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The insatiable ego: why some people need constant flattery
So these individuals must continually look outward to know who they are. They need to see themselves reflected as great, admirable, brilliant, victorious, not because they genuinely believe these qualities reside within, but because they fear they do not. The mirror is not for preening; it is for survival.
Trump’s orbit reveals this pattern with almost clinical clarity. Aides who deliver praise are elevated. Those who offer truth are exiled. Advisors who flatter remain close; those who contradict are replaced. He constructs a world in which disagreement is treason and doubt is disloyalty. Only admiration feels safe. Only devotion feels tolerable. Only affirmation soothes the internal tremors.
For those who depend on flattery to prop up their self-worth, criticism is not merely unpleasant; it is existentially threatening. As noted before, praise is oxygen. Criticism is suffocation.
Over time, the leader becomes isolated inside a bubble of praise, precisely the condition that worsens the fragility at their core.
Again, Trump illustrates this structure with almost theatrical clarity. His firing patterns, midnight tirades, public feuds, impulsive purges, and explosive reactions to even the gentlest criticism reveal a psyche that experiences dissent not as democratic discourse but as a personal wound. Staff members routinely describe entering meetings prepared not with facts but with flattery, knowing that one misplaced comment could ignite hours of fury. Foreign leaders who discovered this dynamic exploited it; domestic rivals suffered beneath it.
In such environments, truth no longer functions as a shared standard; it becomes a provocation. Disagreement is interpreted not as a contribution but as betrayal. Correction feels like humiliation. Delay feels like defiance. Reality itself becomes negotiable. Those who tell inconvenient truths are dismissed as traitors; those who flatter are elevated as visionaries. Policy becomes indistinguishable from psychology. What the leader needs emotionally determines what the government attempts politically.
The consequences are far from abstract. Entire systems begin tiptoeing around one person’s fragility. Intelligence agencies soften their briefings. Legislators tend to mute criticism to avoid retribution. Diplomats recalibrate alliances around a leader’s vanity rather than strategic interest. Government becomes a mirror palace, calibrated to reflect only one person’s preferred image back to him. The irony is that leaders who demand constant praise believe they are projecting strength — yet everyone else can see that they are merely shielding weakness. Their power looks immense, but their emotional life is flimsy, breakable, desperate for applause. And because they cannot bear being ordinary, the country is forced to participate in a national performance designed to keep them feeling extraordinary.
This is the tragic nucleus of flattery-addicted leaders: people loudly performing invincibility while internally clinging to praise as if it were oxygen. They preside over a kingdom of mirrors — shimmering, reflective, and catastrophically fragile. And the public pays the price for the instability at the core, bearing the burden of governing around an ego that must be endlessly managed, appeased, and inflated. In the end, the nation bends more than the leader does, contorting itself around a single, unsteady psyche. And what begins as a personality disorder becomes a political disorder — one in which the country must continually shield its most powerful figure from the sharp edges of reality.
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June 22, 2025:
Netanyahu praises Trump's 'bold decision' to strike Iranian nuclear sites
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL4rmsJHX08
After watching that video, ask yourself how anything he said could be true if less than 9 months after it, Israel and the United States had to start a NEW war with Iran.
Bibi Netanyahu would make an excellent diabolical psychiatrist! He knows how Donald Trump's mind works and is using it ……exploiting it to the MAX to accomplish his own agenda in Iran.
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Continuing from the article:
Flattery addiction is, in the end, both tragically human and painfully absurd. Tragic, because it reveals a psyche so precarious that it cannot stand without constant propping. Absurd, because the props must be rebuilt every day, like a stage set that collapses each night and must be reassembled before the curtain rises again. The flattery-addicted person must be inflated endlessly because they cannot tolerate being human-sized. Their emotional life becomes a loop: praise enters, but it never adheres. Approval is absorbed and immediately evaporates. The ego drinks but never hydrates. No amount of applause lasts until morning.
And the final irony, the one that turns this entire psychological structure from merely tragic to genuinely heartbreaking, is that those who need flattery the most intensely are the least capable of feeling loved. Love, unlike flattery, requires vulnerability. Love requires reciprocity, humility, the willingness to be seen without the armor of performance. Love demands an emotional nakedness that the flattery-addicted personality cannot risk. Praise reassures; love exposes. Praise stabilizes; love transforms. And transformation is precisely what they fear most.
Thus they remain trapped in a gilded psychological cage of their own making, surrounded by people but starving for connection, fed by applause but famished for affection. The world may see confidence, dominance, swagger, command. But beneath the spectacle lies a person who fears that without constant applause, they will collapse into the emptiness they have spent their entire lives trying not to feel.
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These are the credentials of the author of this article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manfred_F.R._Kets_de_Vries
Kets de Vries has written more than 50 books, 400 articles and book chapters on leadership, and organizational and personal change.
Kets de Vries has won(numerous) awards for his work in the leadership field.
President Donald Trump told Fox News on Saturday he unilaterally canceled U.S. special envoy Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner's trip to Pakistan, as a second round of in-person negotiations with Iran remains uncertain.
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The president wrote on social media that in-person talks with Iranian leaders would be too much "time wasted on travel, and too much work!"
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-cancels-iran-talks-better-deal_n_69ed2754e4b0f3a433cb45c6
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Riiiight
The one factor that we can count on, with by far the highest likelihood of confidence is that whatever Donald Trump says, it's a lie.
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https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/25/world/live-news/iran-war-israel-pakistan-talks
• In Lebanon: Meanwhile, Israel has launched more deadly strikes on southern Lebanon, despite a ceasefire agreement recently extended by three weeks. Iran-backed Hezbollah has fired rockets into Israel."
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Lies from Netanyahu were also very expected.
https://thehill.com/policy/international/5849646-iran-damage-us-military-bases/
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Iranians and observers describe what they say is a continued crackdown in Iran.
The situation got even worse for dissidents in Iran after the U.S. and Israel started the war on the country, Iranians told ABC News, following President Donald Trump's Feb. 28 address to Iranians, in which he said that they can "take over" their government once the U.S. and Israel are finished.
"The hour of your freedom is at hand. Stay sheltered. Don’t leave your home. It’s very dangerous outside. Bombs will be dropping everywhere. When we are finished, take over your government. It will be yours to take," Trump said in that address as the war began.
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Fake regime change justification!
Fake nuclear weapons threat justification:
Iran nuclear weapons false narrative(s)
Started by metmike - April 25, 2026, 9:07 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119788/
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How Netanyahu used Donald Trump for his war
Started by metmike - April 10, 2026, 4:10 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119441/
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/german-chancellor-criticizes-us-strategy-iran-conflict-1793887
German Chancellor Friedrich Merz has delivered one of the most pointed European rebukes of Donald Trump's Iran campaign to date, declaring that the United States entered the conflict without a strategy and is now paying the price. 'A whole nation is being humiliated by the Iranian leadership, especially by these so-called Revolutionary Guards,' Merz told the audience.Merz, long regarded as one of Trump's more sympathetic European counterparts, said he could not identify any coherent endgame for Washington.
Merz's remarks come amid a broader collapse of European military solidarity with Washington. Spain's Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez closed his country's airspace to US warplanes and barred operations from the jointly run Morón and Rota bases. Italy refused to allow US bombers to land at the Sigonella base in Sicily. The United Kingdom initially blocked the Pentagon from launching strikes out of the joint base at Diego Garcia, drawing a sharp rebuke from Trump directed at Prime Minister Keir Starmer.
Latest on Donald Trump's unprovoked, unjustified Iran war's impact on crude oil:
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I had mentioned this a couple of weeks ago.
Easter weekend message
22 responses |
Started by metmike - April 4, 2026, 11:26 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119221/
Happy Easter!
The US and Israel are running out of high end weapons, using years worth in just a month at a massive cost to US taxpayer's at an unsustainable pace.
This has left the US extremely vulnerable to defend itself or allies in the event of an actual justified war or attack.
This also makes any case against China to stop them from taking Taiwan ludicrous and even more impossible to stop or even justify our side when Donald Trump is abusing his position as the most,powerful man in the world to bomb boats against international law, take over weaker countries-Venezuela, threaten to take over Greenland and attack Iran while being unprovoked and unjustified.
China can now just use Donald Trump doctrine to justify taking Taiwan.
Putin is actually much more justified in taking Ukraine than Donald Trump is with his actions the past year!
Donald Trump has completely disqualified himself as a peace negotiator in the Ukraine war.
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June Crude breaking out to life of contract highs:
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119646/#119879
Mediators in Pakistan expect to receive a revised proposal from Iran in the next few days.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/29/world/live-news/iran-war-peace-proposal-trump
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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Art_of_the_Deal&oldformat=true
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The Art of the Deal in 2026
Trump's fatally flawed reasoning for winning the war.
The damage to Iran is MUCH worse than the damage to the United States and compared to the damage to the rest of the world.
Before the war, there was ZERO damage, with Iran's enriched uranium buried deeply underground since being hit by the bunker buster bombs in June 2025. Our Intelligence department confirmed ZERO efforts to develop nuclear weapons since June 2025 and Iran agreeing to Trump's nuclear deal in February 2026.
We were totally winning in February 2026 with ZERO damage to the United States and the world.
Now, the justification for the unprovoked war is a made up nuclear weapons threat along with the damage to Iran from our superior weapons being greater than our damage, which includes a non recoverable cost of tens of billions for the military expenses, more than than in economic losses and tens of trillions in global losses.
Now, Donald Trump insists that we have all the cards.
What? In a game of deranged chicken to GET NOTHING, where each side incurs deeper and deeper and deeper losses and there is no winner, just 2 sides suffering from more massive losses every single day.
A sane, clear thinking person that has a lick of comprehension and leadership skills would never make this choice and then call it winning!
Re: Re: Iran War 3/25/26+ (cont. from 3/8-25/26 thread)
By metmike - April 7, 2026, 6 a.m.
This could be the most well advertised, war crime in US history to go with Donald Trump's other achievements in just over a year in office.
The entire world is getting a unique opportunity to see into the mind of a psychopath with progressive dementia that, because he’s also the most powerful man in the world, can lay down multiple, profoundly destructive paths for his country, his enemies, his allies and humanity simultaneously!
Kill innocent people, many women and children. Destroy ancient architecture. Harm the planet/environment. Self destruct his own political party. Damage the economy, target the poor. Seek vengeance against the other party and anybody not in MAGA. Violate International Laws, the Geneva Convention and the Constitution. Censor critics and take away First Amendment rights. Betray the people from his own country. Appoint many thousands of like minded people that swear allegiance to him. Fire all those people that don't. Attempt to illegally overturn elections. MASSIVELY Enrich himself thru numerous fraudulent schemes. Tell 10s of thousands of lies.........more than the truth. Cover up his crimes as a predator of women, that included being a pedophile with Jeffrey Epstein for 15 years.
Use a totally fake religious belief system and affiliation to justify all of this above and insult another religion.
Establish a cult of many millions with him as their leader, telling them things they wish were true to control them.
Abuse and put our brave soldiers and military in harms way. Order them to commit illegal acts and crimes.
Added: Alienate allies. Cause the biggest global energy crisis in history. Name everything that he can after himself.
Set the worst example possible as a leader and human being for others in the world to follow as he reeks havoc and creates hate in the world to accomplish an agenda of creating what he thinks is a legacy of the omnipotent Donald Trump, greatest man in history.
Hegseth testimony 4-29-26
Started by metmike - April 29, 2026, 4:07 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119891/
Since then:
The Art of the Deal in 2026
While inside make believe MAGA world this is the delusional take below:
https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2026/may/02/trump-not-satisfied-with-irans-latest-offer/
This is completely made up like everything else coming out of Donald Trump's mouth!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2026/05/02/trump-iran-war-terminated--live/89903038007/
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https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119646/#119919
The most reliable thing about this war over the past month is that whatever Donald Trump says is a lie.
He has done more damage to the United States and the world than any 1 man since Adolf Hitler. Many trillions and each day that passes causes the damage to mount.
Incredibly, 30% of Americans think that he's doing a great job. Think that higher gas prices are not his fault. Think that he's saving the world from Iran's nuclear weapons.
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Trump: I could shoot somebody and not lose voters
From the trading forum:
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119646/#119991
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Donald Trump totally does NOT get it. Iran WANTS HIM to make threats like this. They are using the only thing they have, control over the Strait of Hormuz to damage Donald Trump's credibility.
The worst energy crisis in human history and him being blamed is hurting him badly around the world. However, it's Donald Trump's mouth that is making it so MUCH worse.
Donald Trump has been unable to open the Strait, so he resorts to being his own worst enemy by using his mouth/fork tongue words (threats, promises, ultimatums, hope/optimism, fake this, fake that) which has completely destroyed his credibility from an already low level.
Iran knows this and is using it because it's all they have.
When he threatened to end all of civilization in Iran, who looked REALLY bad?
Iran?
Donald Trump?
Unless you're in MAGA, the answer was obvious. The leaders in Iran don't care about the people. One thing that they appear to be pretty good at is maximizing the one element of power they have to embarrass Donald Trump like no other world leader has been embarrassed in my life time on a global stage.
Bragging constantly about how the most powerful military in the world crushed Iran and won the war as if anybody except Israel really cares about that.
What the entire world DOES care about dearly is the worst global energy crisis in history that is severely punishing every country and every person.
The life blood for every developed country's economy is their access to cheap, reliable and abundant fossil fuels, especially crude oil to make fuel.
That's what the world cares about. Not how great Donald Trump thinks that he is because he unleashed the most powerful military on Iran for an easy military victory.
Iran may be losing here too but make no mistake, their leaders are indoctrinated into a belief system that will causes them to think and act differently than you and me.
Donald Trump is oblivious to this. He thinks that bullying and making threats will cause them to come begging. Their tremendous pain threshold prevents Donald Trump's threats from working. In fact, they want him to make these threats. The more lunatic threats made by Donald Trump, the better for Iran.
Donald Trump, talking like an unhinged madman at times actually is making the worlds biggest state sponsoring terrorist regime, known for its extremism and lack of credibility............look LESS extreme than him.
Seriously!
Iran's military warned that any U.S. forces that enter the Strait of Hormuz will be "targeted and attacked" after President Donald Trump announced plans for U.S. escort missions through the strait on Monday.
After the price of oil spiked to $100+ because of Donald Trump's unjustified war that did NOT anticipate Iran closing the Strait of Hormuz, he had been insisting that everybody thought that crude would go to $200 but because of his brilliant leadership and strategies, crude ONLY went to $100.
Today he did a typical Trump-ism and jacked up that absurd lie and fake $200 number to make it $300!
“Everybody was wrong,” Trump said. “They thought that energy would be at $300, right? Three hundred dollars a barrel. And it’s, like, at $100. And I think going down.
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Question: What happens when a dangerous psychopath operating with no accountability as the most powerful man in the world has progressive dementia that causes the severity of his diseased brain to get worse and worse?
Answer: We are finding out right now!
Causing the worst global energy crisis in history. Causing gas prices to increase $1.50/gallon in the US and bragging to us that it's because of him...............that things are not much worse!!!!
Unfortunately, progressive dementia ALWAYS gets worse
Meteorologist Donald Trump forecasting the weather:
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/118980/#119063
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Researched on April 3, 2026
https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/why-congress-lets-trump-act-unchecked-7a7ec1
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https://days.to/us-midterm-elections/2026
"At what point do exchanges of fire during a ceasefire constitute an end or violation of said ceasefire?" Foreign Policy writer John Haltiwanger demanded. "What is the threshold?"
"An idiot runs this country," Daily Kos reporter Emily Singer wrote.
"He's insane," agreed former GOP Rep. Adam Kinzinger.
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Psychopaths
Started by metmike - March 16, 2026, 10:50 p.m.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: How Netanyahu used Donald Trump for his war
By metmike - May 10, 2026, 4:07 p.m.
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They continue to flat out lie about most things related to nuclear weapons.
Iran nuclear weapons false narrative(s)
Started by metmike - April 25, 2026, 9:07 a.m.
It's a waste of space to post things that Trump states because it's all nonsense from somebody that has no clue. He has a diseased brain and progressive dementia. He is delusional and focused on doing things that he's completely convinced will make Donald Trump a legend as the greatest president of the United State in history and greatest man that ever lived. Seriously!!!!
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Trump speaking out to call Obama "weak and stupid" would be like "Jack the Ripper" accusing a pedestrian who helped an old lady cross the street, a criminal that deserves to be locked up for life.
Just a reminder of how we got here. Donald Trump cancelled Obama's wonderful Nuclear deal with Iran that was very effective at preventing them from enriching uranium and developing nuclear weapons. He replaced it with...........NOTHING!!!
Iran nuclear weapons false narrative(s)
12 responses |
Started by metmike - April 25, 2026, 9:07 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119788/
Donald Trump wants us to think that Iran is completely cut off from the world with the US blockade of the Strait of Hormuz.
NOT TRUE!
With shipping disrupted by US-Iran tensions, Islamabad activates overland corridor to move stranded cargo into Iran.
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https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/technology/articles/iran-war-disrupts-circuit-board-043346735.html
The amazing thing is the cease fire and threats to end it And resume attacking again …….unless Iran consedes to Donald Trumps demands in the negotiations.
So that’s how the United States negotiates with other countries in 2026???
Agree to the presidents absurd terms or the most,powerful military in the world will bomb the heck out of you, killing lots,of innocent people. Threatening ro end civilization in your country unless you give him exactly what he wants.
Taking venuzuala by force. About to take Cuba. Threatening to take Greenland, Panama and even Canada to make them the 51st state. Bombing a dozen boats for suspected drugs to assassinate everybody on board with no trial, against International laws.
Obama and Kerry got the best nuclear deal ever in 2015!
And they didn’t drop 1 bomb or fire 1 bullet!!! Or kill 1 person. Or spend 10s of billions from tax payers for a military attack……or cause the worst global energy crisis in history. Or cause the price of gas to go up $1.50 and other prices to rise.
Donald Trumps ”brief incursion” has backfired badly. There is tremendous uncertainty, other than a high likelihood that Donald Trump will make it even worse. Then after he loses, will spin it into the biggest win in history and repeat that….no matter how bad the real world negative consequences are from his unjustified, catastrophic blunder.
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Netanyahu is sending clear signals that he wants the bombing in Iran to resume. However, Donald Trump, at some,point has got to realize that being trapped in this losing position was caused by following Netanyahu and ignoring military experts in the US that told him this would be a huge mistake…..including Vance who suddenly is taking a back seat.
At some point, one would think that even delusional Donald Trump would realize that Netanyahu used him and manipulated him because only Donald Trump controls the most powerful military in the world and only the United States has the corrupt military industrial political complex that can give Israel the weapons and support for him to exploit for his personal agendas in the Middle East.
Iran has Donald Trump in a bad spot here and Trump just doesnt have an objective, problem solving brain capable of making the best choices.
Hes been focused on making Donald Trump a great legend with conquests and pleasing Bibi Netanyahu that understands Trumps diseased brain craves over the top adulation from important people and Netanyahu has turned Trump into his puppet to serve Israel
Iran knows this too and they are willing to suffer a lot of pain to punish Donald aTrimp for his unprovoked, unjust war that featured Donald Trump being the one that betrayed Iran 3 times now.
1. When he canceled the great, hard fought Obama nuclear deal in 2018:with nothing to replace it because he wanted .a Trump nuclear deal for his legacy.
2. In June 2025, on the verge of the Trump nuclear deal, Netanyahu surprise bombed Iran and started a war with the made up nuclear bomb threat false narrative, a week before the deal could be agreed on. Ordering Donald Trump to drop our bunker busting bombs.
3. Iran had again agreed to Trumps terms in February 2026 and Netanyahu did it again. To sabotage any peace deals that he won’t allow between Trump and Iran because he needs Iran to be our enemy.
By metmike - May 12, 2026, 10:03 a.m.
Just read the authentic facts below to see how the nuclear weapons threat to justify this war was completely manufactured!
Iran nuclear weapons false narrative(s)
Started by metmike - April 25, 2026, 9:07 a.m.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/senate-defeats-7th-trump-war-powers-iran/
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Every one of these Rs running in November should be fired for betraying the strong desire of the American people and enabling/supporting President Trump's actions as a traitor to the United States.
Donald Trump has committed blatant treason!!!!
Started by metmike - May 13, 2026, 8:16 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/120200/
Donald Trump continues to insist that the US has complete control of the Iran war and Strait of Hormuz.
Right, like I have complete control of my bowels after chugging down the prep to clean out my colon the day before a colonoscopy
https://news.sky.com/story/iran-war-latest-trump-blockade-strait-of-hormuz-lebanon-13509565
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The US military is considering officially renaming the war with Iran if the ceasefire collapses - in a move that could let Donald Trump argue he doesn't need to meet his legal obligations to Congress.
"Operation Epic Fury" could become "Operation Sledgehammer" so Trump could claim a new 60-day allowance for presidential military operations before congressional approval is required.
Two US officials told our partner network NBC News that from the administration's point of view, a new name would restart the clock.
The 1973 War Powers Resolution requires the president notify Congress within 48 hours of starting combat and forbids military action last more than 60 days without Congressional approval.
Epic Fury's offensive combat operations were paused after 40 days of fighting. The Trump administration has argued that, given the pause, it has not reached the 60-day threshold.
Secretary of State Marco Rubio told reporters last week that Operation Epic Fury "is over".
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A classical Donald Trump, lie, cheat, break laws and violate the Constitution move!
When resuming the intensity of the attacks again with this same war, that everybody on the planet KNOWS is the same war........pretend that it's a brand new war so he doesn't have to abide by the laws that everybody else does!
He's already violated the US Constitution, International laws, Geneva Convention, NATO and United Nations protocol and relationships while committing treason against the American people, causing the worst global energy crisis in history........what's the big deal doing this too???
Xi greets Trump in China
Started by metmike - May 13, 2026, 10:25 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/120215/
Iranian news agencies said some Chinese ships were being allowed through the strait, following diplomatic outreach to Iran from Beijing.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/14/world/middleeast/iran-strait-hormuz-china-ships.html
The Trump-tanic
Started by metmike - May 16, 2026, 5:44 p.m.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0p4y9y48xo
Trump's message echoed his threat that a "whole civilisation" would die unless Iran agreed to a deal to end the war, shortly before the ceasefire was announced in early April.
https://www.gasbuddy.com/charts
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Just one problem with that justification................it's completely made up!!!
There was no and is no immediate threat from Iran's nuclear weapons program that had done NOTHING to advance since June 2025. All the enriched uranium has been buried deeply in the ground since then!!
And Iran had agreed to a new TRUMP nuclear deal in June 2025 and again February 2026(after Donald Trump, in 2018, with no explanation, cancelled the Obama deal that WAS WORKING EXTREMELY WELL, mainly because..........it was an Obama deal!!!! and he wanted it to be a Trump nuclear deal. Seriously!).
Iran nuclear weapons false narrative(s)
Started by metmike - April 25, 2026, 9:07 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119788/
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How Netanyahu used Donald Trump for his war
Started by metmike - April 10, 2026, 4:10 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119441/
Revised Iranian proposal to end war shared with US, Pakistani source says
Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Esmaeil Baghaei confirmed that Tehran's views had been "conveyed to the American side through mediator Pakistan".
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/revised-iranian-proposal-end-war-081552815.html
Great news, folks!
“I have been asked by the Emir of Qatar, Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani, the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud, and the President of the United Arab Emirates, Mohamed bin Zayed Al Nahyan, to hold off on our planned Military attack of the Islamic Republic of Iran, which was scheduled for tomorrow, in that serious negotiations are now taking place, and that, in their opinion, as Great Leaders and Allies, a Deal will be made, which will be very acceptable to the United States of America, as well as all Countries in the Middle East, and beyond. This Deal will include, importantly, NO NUCLEAR WEAPONS FOR IRAN! Based on my respect for the above mentioned Leaders, I have instructed Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, The Chairman of The Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Daniel Caine, and The United States Military, that we will NOT be doing the scheduled attack of Iran tomorrow, but have further instructed them to be prepared to go forward with a full, large scale assault of Iran, on a moment’s notice, in the event that an acceptable Deal is not reached. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP”
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116597121700043134
This DT post was made at 3:01PM EDT. Within 60 seconds, crude oil futures plunged $2! That’s within one minute, folks! The image below shows the selling as a long red bar at 15:01 hours:
Thanks, Larry!
Since this is Donald Trump's version #25, the spike down had no follow thru.
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Actually, people with sense do know what's coming next. An extreme Donald Trump contradiction, lie or lunatic screed that nobody believes anymore but which has given the entire world a unique look into the mind of a corrupt, delusional psychopath(with progressive dementia) that is obsessed with making himself an historical legend by abusing his position as the most powerful man in the world with the most powerful military, for personal conquest while reeking havoc on people and countries that don't bow down before him.
And while doing this, the majority Rs in Congress acting as cheerleaders that enable his decimation of the trust, credibility and respect that the United States had for generations before him.
Donald Trump has committed blatant treason!!!!
Started by metmike - May 13, 2026, 8:16 a.m.
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/iran-war-trump-peace-deal-attack-possible/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/senate-iran-war-powers-eighth-vote-trump/
The vote marked the first time Cassidy supported advancing a war powers resolution. It came days after he failed to win enough support to advance to a runoff in the Louisiana GOP Senate primary, where Mr. Trump endorsed one of his opponents.
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Ironically, the NON MAGA R that represents Americans with his vote to end the war..........was just fired by Donald Trump. His MAGA, war supporting replacement will be the one in the election in November in a country that features 75% NOT MAGA and 72% against the war.
A recipe for MAGA disaster in November!
Votes in the House and Senate this week to halt the military campaign would prove a stunning embarrassment for the president.
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/05/20/congress-iran-trump-war-powers-win-00929880
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If it reaches Donald Trump's desk, he'll just veto it..........and attack members of his party that voted for it.
Americans are against this war by a margin of greater than 2 to 1. Basically it's MAGA for the war as they are FOR anything that Donald Trump does and most of the rest of the country against it.
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8:40 am Thursday:
MAGA's believes Trump's lie about Iran's nuclear weapons being an imminent threat to justify the war that Netanyahu started and convinced him to be part of and the media/others never call him out on that blatant lie.
Latest from the trading forum:
By metmike - May 21, 2026, 9:22 a.m.
We continue to hear the false narratives from Donald Trump, politicians and others that this was all about the enriched uranium or nuclear weapons to justify this war and current situation.
IRAN HAD ALREADY AGREED TO DONALD TRUMP'S TERMS ON THE ENRICHED URANIUM BEFORE HE BOMBED THEM!!!!
It's BECAUSE they agreed that Netanyahu needed to do this TO SABOTAGE A PEACE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE US AND IRAN!!!!
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By metmike - March 4, 2026, 8:09 p.m.
This is the news that caused Israel to attack to sabotage the peace deal, just like it did in June 2025 when Donald Trump was on the verge of a peace deal with Iran.
U.S.-Iran deal is "within our reach," Omani mediator says
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-iran-deal-within-our-reach-oman-mediator-says/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg5sXQDR8NY
Foreign minister says existing enriched uranium stockpiles to be down-blended to lowest level, converted into irreversible fuel under full IAEA verification
28.02.2026 - Update : 28.02.2026
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https://www.commondreams.org/news/oman-foreign-minister-iran-deal
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by Ian Swanson - 02/28/26
https://thehill.com/policy/international/5760270-oman-negotiations-undermined-strikes/
Oman Foreign Minister Badr al-Busaidi, who had been a key player in talks aimed at preventing a war between the U.S. and Iran, expressed dismay at the Saturday morning strikes by the U.S. and Israel.
“I am dismayed. Active and serious negotiations have yet again been undermined,” he wrote on X.
“Neither the interests of the United States nor the cause of global peace are well served by this. And I pray for the innocents who will suffer. I urge the United States not to get sucked in further. This is not your war,” he wrote.
On Friday, hours before the strikes, the Omani foreign minister had played up progress in the talks.
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By attacking Iran and BETRAYING THE NUCLEAR DEAL(which they also offered in June 2025-then Netanyahu bombed to sabotage it then) , Iran is punishing Donald Trump right now!!!!
Not just by closing the Strait of Hormuz but why should they now reward him for betraying them 2 times on the Nuclear deal after what he just did to them?
So now they are NOT giving him the nuclear deal HE ALREADY HAD!!! At least not right away this time.
Ironically, Donald Trump continues to pretend with galactic absurdity that he bombed Iran to stop the imminent threat of them from getting nuclear weapons. And we wonder, why doesn't Iran just agree to it and have this over with????
THEY DID AGREE TO IT 2 different times and look how Donald Trump reacted. He bombed them BOTH times after they agreed to it!!!!
Iran is run by evil people that sponsor global terrorism, so I'm all for taking steps to weaken them that makes sense to the rest of the world.
In this case, however, Mr. Art of the Deal completely threw away the best deal he could have gotten(actually the best deal was the Obama Nuclear Deal, that was working well-until Donald Trump cancelled that in 2018-for no reason and with no replacement!) and Donald Trump traded it in for the worst energy crisis in history, gas prices $1.50 higher, inflation, $50 billion to tax payers(so far for it) the world blaming us and turmoil in all the other markets.
Why did he do that???
Donald Trump has committed blatant treason!!!!
Started by metmike - May 13, 2026, 8:16 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/120200/
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Donald Trump is a psychopath with progressive dementia that is obsessed with using his position as the most powerful man in the world in charge of the most powerful military to make himself an historical legend!!!
Bibi Netanyahu is another psychopath, without progressive dementia but instead is a brilliant but diabolical schemer and strategist who understands Donald Trump's diseased brain and how to control it with over the top adulation and promising him dreams of CONQUEST in the Middle East that are so appealing to Netanyahu's and Donald Trump's objectives.
Tehran says the gap in position with Washington has narrowed - but the Strait of Hormuz remains a sticking point
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The REAL story based on authentic facts is here:
Tulsi Gabbard resigns
Started by metmike - May 22, 2026, 3:13 p.m.https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/iran-war-trump-us-peace-talks-strait-of-hormuz-control/
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Will this be the REAL deal?
Actually, the real deal is not likely and was NEVER likely based on the imminent threat from nuclear weapons because there was NEVER an imminent threat. ALL the enriched uranium has been deeply buried in the ground since June 2025 and since then, was sealed/covered with cement.
Iran has done 0 to advance nuclear weapons delivery systems since then. How do we know that?
Because the #1 and #2 in the US National Intelligence agency told us, with Tulsey Gabbord testifying to that under oath in March and with the documents that summarized their comprehensive, investigative research then too.
Not surprisingly, both of them are gone and the top job soon to be filled with a Donald Trump adulator that will say and do what Donald Trump tells them to do.
Here was Trump’s post on TS related to this agreement:
I am in the Oval Office at the White House where we just had a very good call with President Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud, of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan, of The United Arab Emirates, Emir Tamim bin Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani, Prime Minister Mohammed bin Abdulrahman bin Jassim bin Jaber Al Thani, and Minister Ali al-Thawadi, of Qatar, Field Marshal Syed Asim Munir Ahmed Shah, of Pakistan, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, of Türkiye, President Abdel Fattah El-Sisi, of Egypt, King Abdullah II, of Jordan, and King Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa, of Bahrain, concerning the Islamic Republic of Iran, and all things related to a Memorandum of Understanding pertaining to PEACE. An Agreement has been largely negotiated, subject to finalization between the United States of America, the Islamic Republic of Iran, and the various other Countries, as listed. Separately, I had a call with Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu, of Israel, which, likewise, went very well. Final aspects and details of the Deal are currently being discussed, and will be announced shortly. In addition to many other elements of the Agreement, the Strait of Hormuz will be opened. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116625784011805994
Thanks very much, Larry!
No mention of the nuclear weapons that he's been insisting this war is all about the past X number of weeks and XXX number of times.
Since Iran had already agreed to draw down their uranium in February 2026, before Netanyahu convinced Donald Trump to attack Iran (to sabotage the deal).
My question is/will be, what did we gain from the Iran war?
And what have we lost(with losses continuing into early 2027 as the world restores the previous crude oil balance and getting back to pre war prices).
Mike,
If that’s really going to be the final agreement, I see nothing gained outside of the military tactical victories and if anything possibly an overall worse position for the U.S., Israel, and others vs how it was after the Obama era Iran Nuclear Deal! That’s not even counting the deaths, injuries, and infrastructure damage, the many months of higher gas and food prices, the many 10s of billions spent, the depletion of our missiles and bombs (though these will be replenished), and the worsening relationship with some of our allies. Yes, we had big tactical military victories which destroyed much of their military infrastructure, especially their navy. But despite our decided tactical victories, we appear to have strategic losses. Tactical good, strategic bad sums it up. Net is bad.
Hey Mike,
Can you see Israel going quietly here? I find it hard to believe they’ll accept this. Will Bibi sabotage still another agreement? If so, I wonder if that would be the last straw for Trump. Opinion from you or others?
You hit all the best points, Larry!
With regards to Netanyahu.
As long as he's in charge, Israel will be a rogue country that violates International laws and humanity in the Middle East.
Same thing with the United States under Donald Trump X 20 because his impact on much of the world and US is an order of magnitude greater that Netanyahu's.
Whatever is agreed on here may not have much lasting power. I don't think any of the parties involved have ever stuck to any agreements of any kind for very long,
https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/25/world/live-news/iran-war-us-peace-deal
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No surprises there. The huge surprise would be when the actions and results actually line up with the words, empty promises.
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By metmike - May 27, 2026, 3:12 p.m.
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https://newrepublic.com/post/210974/donald-trump-threatens-bomb-oman-iran-war
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Iran nuclear weapons false narrative(s)
By metmike - May 29, 2026, 7:20 a.m.
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White House Whipsaws Once Again on Iran
I hear the 5th Ave shoot someone stuff again. <G>
DT was interviewed by his daughter in law, Lara Trump, on Fox News. I bet that was a real tough one <G>:
Thanks, Larry.
Funny interview where he repeats the lie of this war being all about the imminent threat of Iran's nuclear weapons.........with the rock solid fact (testified to by our own National Intelligence leaders, under oath with both #1 and #2 having resigned during the last 3 months) that all the enriches uranium has been deeply buried underground and sealed in cement for since June 2025.
I don't get why the rest of the media is ignoring this and has accepted his nuclear weapons bs, other than the fact that when a lie gets repeated so often, then everybody starts accepting it as the truth.
Iran nuclear weapons false narrative(s)
Started by metmike - April 25, 2026, 9:07 a.m.
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https://www.modernghana.com/videonews/nbc/1/657906/
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The complete insanity of an unjustifiable war by any measure or standard or factual reason is bad enough coming from a person with a diseased brain following the leader of another country because he thinks it will make him an historical legend but what about the hundreds of NOT mentally ill politicians that are supposed to represent Americans (who are strongly opposed by the war) and represent the best interest of the United States but half of them with the R label are literally to afraid of Donald Trump to oppose him on anything as well as being bought and paid for by the Military Industrial Complex??
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Dow@mark_dow
Trump has won this war 7 times. He’s negotiated a peace settlement 12 times. And he’s opened the Strait of Hormuz at least 4 times. What more do you want from him?That is probably UNDERcounting
Crude, which had been up as much as ~$7 vs Fri, has dropped back $2 the past hour due to DT requesting Israel and Hezbollah stopping their fighting and him saying the phone calls to both went well fwiw:
“No,I had a very productive call with Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu, of Israel, and there will be no Troops going to Beirut, and any Troops that are on their way, have already been turned back. Likewise, through highly placed Representatives, I had a very good call with Hezbollah, and they agreed that all shooting will stop — That Israel will not attack them, and they will not attack Israel. President DONALD J. TRUMP”
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116676034049614301
Thanks, Larry!
In the story about the Boy who cried WOLF!!!
How many times did it take for the village people to stop believing the boy?
Eventually, this war WILL end, just like the wolf really did come. But how many more times will Donald Trump mislead us before that happens?
I would think that crude would be $20 higher than this if the market didn't think the end is near because we are experiencing the worst global energy crisis in history and crude oil prices are NOT reflecting that.
No end in sight!
Symbolic as Trump will veto it:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj6pldg39deo
How can almost all the Rs justify a continuation of this war? Get rid of them ASAP!
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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn0pl0wvvz0o
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Dear Donald Trump. In the REAL world, this is what is unpatriotic:
Donald Trump has committed blatant treason!!!!
Started by metmike - May 13, 2026, 8:16 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/120200/
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Trump steals $1,776,000,000 from the Treasury
Started by patrick - May 18, 2026, 4:14 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/120295/
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Trumps pardons
Started by metmike - Jan. 22, 2025, 7:41 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/109647/
Now he wants to PAY/REWARD THEM because they violated the Constitution and tried to overturn the 2020 election, some with violent felonies FOR DONALD TRUMP. This issue will come up again. That's who Donald Trump is.
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New Donald Trump January 6 website
Started by metmike - Jan. 8, 2026, 8:43 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/117090/
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Jan 6th again
Started by mcfarm - July 5, 2025, 7:14 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/112997/
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Over 100 threads. Over 1,000 posts here the past 5 years with all the authentic facts, data and evidence to conclusively, INDISPUTABLY prove that Joe Biden won the election and that the Constitution violating frauds have been Donald Trump and his sycophants telling blatant lies and abusing their power to twist the realities.
around 200 trancripts released from jan 6th
11 responses |
Started by mcfarm - June 17, 2023, 4:52 p.m.
