Want to hear a rich genius talk blatant, anti science ignorance?
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Started by metmike - Nov. 9, 2019, 11:16 a.m.

You know the guy!

Bill Gates

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates

metmike: Wonderful person. One of the richest and very altruistic. Extraordinarily generous and active in trying to make the world a better place. 


However, VERY wrong in accepting extreme, computer simulated, catastrophic weather/climate for the next 100 years as gospel......and not thinking critically by using the actual world observations that prove we are having the best weather and climate in the last 1,000 years for almost all life on this greening planet......... and best CO2 since humans have existed. 


He get's an F from metmike in meteorology/atmospheric science/climate science(and biology, agronomy, zoology) and for allowing his progressive activism to completely  control his thoughts........disabling his mind to being  open to be able to  comprehend the reality............the current CLIMATE OPTIMUM!


Bill Gates Depopulation Initiative UN Agenda 21

YouTube

 · 10/12/2018

 

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Agenda+21+depopulation+Initiative&view=detail&mid=7A77A0F30722BD48FDD37A77A0F30722BD48FDD3&FORM=VIRE


Bill Gates provides no evidence of the climate crisis/emergency. He can't because it doesn't exist except on extreme global climate model simulations going out 100 years.........but that's not authentic evidence. Solutions from biased modelers programming a computer to run a million equations based on WHAT THEY THINK is only going to yield the results of what they think.

If I program a computer with 10+10=40, then have it add that sum a billion times,. the wrong result is still tied to the wrong assumption from the get go from the human being who programmed the computer.

So here is the problem. The modelers are not adjusting their climate assumptions in the models based on the real weather/climate. They are stuck in their world of climate theories, math and physics............convinced that it's all been settled, like gravity and can all be represented accurately with math that doesn't need to be changed.

Even when the evidence from observations BUSTING those model predictions is crystal clear, they don't want to change them.  This train left the station over 30 years ago and there is no stopping it.

https://apnews.com/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0

U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked

PETER JAMES SPIELMANN June 29, 1989


  UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.

   Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ″eco- refugees,′ ′ threatening political chaos, said Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program, or UNEP. 

   He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control. 

   As the warming melts polar icecaps, ocean levels will rise by up to three feet, enough to cover the Maldives and other flat island nations, Brown told The Associated Press in an interview on Wednesday. 

   Coastal regions will be inundated; one-sixth of Bangladesh could be flooded, displacing a fourth of its 90 million people. A fifth of Egypt’s arable land in the Nile Delta would be flooded, cutting off its food supply, according to a joint UNEP and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency study. 

   ″Ecological refugees will become a major concern, and what’s worse is you may find that people can move to drier ground, but the soils and the natural resources may not support life. Africa doesn’t have to worry about land, but would you want to live in the Sahara?″ he said. 

   UNEP estimates it would cost the United States at least $100 billion to protect its east coast alone. 

   Shifting climate patterns would bring back 1930s Dust Bowl conditions to Canadian and U.S. wheatlands, while the Soviet Union could reap bumper crops if it adapts its agriculture in time, according to a study by UNEP and the International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis. 

   Excess carbon dioxide is pouring into the atmosphere because of humanity’s use of fossil fuels and burning of rain forests, the study says. The atmosphere is retaining more heat than it radiates, much like a greenhouse.

   The most conservative scientific estimate that the Earth’s temperature will rise 1 to 7 degrees in the next 30 years, said Brown."

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By metmike - Nov. 9, 2019, 3:44 p.m.
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Progressive Activists

https://hiddentribes.us/profiles/progressive-activists

Main concerns

Climate Change, Inequality, Poverty


Compared to the average American:

  • More than twice as likely to list politics as a hobby (73 percent v. 35 percent)
  • Almost three times more likely to be “ashamed to be an American” (69 percent v. 24 percent)
  • Twice as likely to have completed college (59 percent v. 29 percent)
  • They have an outsized role in public debates, even though they comprise a small portion of the total population, about one in 12 Americans

It's estimated that 50% or more of the mainstream media are progressive activists, 6+ times higher than the general population. This makes sense. It's an ideal profession that allows them to accomplish their "change the world" objectives.  Thanks to "freedom of the press" they are able to communicate their ideologies and impose their belief system on others with impunity, even when they go from reporting to distorting the news for political agenda.


Previous discussion on this:

                HiddenTribes: America’s Polarized Landscape            

                            12 responses |            

                Started by metmike - Sept. 27, 2019, 7 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/39903/

By metmike - Nov. 9, 2019, 4:01 p.m.
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Differences in Conservative and Liberal Brains

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/40697/

Interesting too, that almost all fields of science are dominated by people with an extreme liberal bias.  Climate science is no exception. They are obviously well educated which is why progressive activists are twice as likely to have a higher education. They have a strong presence in many realms that provide opportunities for them to have the power to influence the belief system of others.

College professors for instance.............very VERY liberal. 


The problem with all those liberal professors

https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec-professors-liberal-teaching-students-colleges-universities-0925-story.html

In recent years, concern has grown over what many people see as a left-of-center political bias at colleges and universities. A few months ago, Mitchell Langbert, an associate professor of business at Brooklyn College, published a study of the political affiliations of faculty members at 51 of the 66 liberal-arts colleges ranked highest by U.S. News in 2017. The findings are eye-popping (even if they do not come as a great surprise to many people in academia).

     

Democrats dominate most fields. In religion, Langbert’s survey found that the ratio of Democrats to Republicans is 70 to 1. In music, it is 33 to 1. In biology, it is 21 to 1. In philosophy, history and psychology, it is 17 to 1. In political science, it is 8 to 1.

   

The gap is narrower in science and engineering. In physics, economics and mathematics, the ratio is about 6 to 1. In chemistry, it is 5 to 1, and in engineering, it is just 1.6 to 1. Still, Lambert found no field in which Republicans are more numerous than Democrats.


metmike: Our college campuses have become the perfect environment for indoctrination into far left ideologies via biased mentors that represent their 1 sided views only.   This study quantifies the disparity with evidence in the form of actual numbers. WOW!

With the exception of engineering, they are mind boggling. Some teach in areas and ways that their political affiliation would never be a factor. However, sometimes it is and it's almost always pushing an extreme left agenda.

It's no surprise that those with a college education are twice as likely to be progressive activists.


Here are the results of that study below.

Homogenous: The Political Affiliations of Elite Liberal Arts College Faculty


https://www.nas.org/academic-questions/31/2/homogenous_the_political_affiliations_of_elite_liberal_arts_college_faculty

Figure 2 gives a picture of how the broad liberal arts fields compare with respect to political affiliation. The professional field has the least extreme (but still unbalanced) D:R ratio while ideologically rooted interdisciplinary studies has the most extreme. The hard sciences are more balanced than the social sciences and the humanities.

Figure 2
Number of Democratic Faculty Members for Every Republican in Five Broad Fields
Indeed, faculty political affiliations at 39 percent of the colleges in my sample are Republican free—having zero Republicans. The political registration in most of the remaining 61 percent, with a few important exceptions, is slightly more than zero percent but nevertheless absurdly skewed against Republican affiliation and in favor of Democratic affiliation. Thus, 78.2 percent of the academic departments in my sample have either zero Republicans, or so few as to make no difference.
By metmike - Nov. 9, 2019, 4:28 p.m.
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Academics Demand More Time Off From Work to Save Planet From Climate Change

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/11/01/academics-demand-more-time-off-from-work-to-save-planet-from-climate-change/

The letter below was signed by more than 1,000 British professors. 

"Dear vice-chancellors, Universities UK and UK Research and Innovation,

Humanity stands at the brink of a precipice. If we do not urgently address climate breakdown and the ecological crisis, the very future of life on earth is in question. David Attenborough has said “We cannot be radical enough” in tackling the climate crisis, and the people are listening. Universities are the bastions of wisdom and knowledge that are urgently needed to combat the climate crisis. Now is the time to increase our efforts. 

[…]

Support fellowships, placements and volunteering for mitigation, adaptation and ecological restoration

We ask you to support scientists, academics and students to help address the climate emergency through a series of new programmes, fellowships, sabbaticals and voluntary placements to help the critical efforts needed to save all life on our planet. These will be hosted by a large partnership between universities, companies and NGOs working on solutions.

We need to be leaders. We need to transform our universities into action-oriented institutions.

Please help us make this possible."

metmike: The message is clear. They want to spend much more time devoted to teaching students anti science about a climate crisis/emergency that does not exist during this climate optimum.

In essence, making them dumber. Feeding them misinformation about what is really happening. Teaching them.......not to be critical thinkers using logic or to be skeptical and question things that don't make sense but to fall in line and be indoctrinated into THEIR belief system. Their monumental extreme liberal bias has been well established. They are abusing their responsibility as educators of our youth in order to promote their personal ideology.

I used to give these people the benefit of the doubt as far as sincerity and many of them may be sincere. However, despite being an atmospheric scientist, you see how easy it is for me to pull up massive, massive amounts of data that shows we are in a climate optimum, life is doing wonderful and our planet is greening up. These are the cerebral elites in our world. There is no excuse for them to not know or to ignore all the proven benefits to the increase in CO2 and todays weather/climate...........then include that in their teaching.

Only telling students about the bad things, including the very bad things on speculative, busted climate models that will likely never happen but are the selling point of the entire scheme is closed minded and harmful to everybody they consider as targets.


They have made a committment to educating our youth. They owe it to those youth to educate them with authentic science and the objective truths.

Who could have imagined such a situation and probably you,. reading this probably still don't competely appreciate what has and is happening right now with this fake climate crisis. 

By metmike - Nov. 9, 2019, 4:32 p.m.
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Al Gore is still out there committed to brainwashing our children with junk science.


This is his latest effort:


@AlGore to launch climate brainwashing campaign for students worldwide Nov 20-21

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/11/07/algore-to-launch-climate-brainwashing-campaign-for-students-worldwide-nov-20-21/

By metmike - Nov. 9, 2019, 4:39 p.m.
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Previous discussions on this brainwashing:


Ex-KGB on Ideological Subversion: How the UN/IPCC hijacked science/brainwashed the world. Previously warmer. Polar bear hoax. Sept. 2019

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/38156/

Living in the world of escalating brainwash- alarmist language-polar bears-why most research is false-May 2019

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/30462/


Global climate strike/brainwashing youth/catalytic convertors/deaths from climate catastrophes: March 2019

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/25996/


Does the media have too much power?: Time Magazine goes off the anti science deep end/97% of scientists agree on a climate crisis bs/31,487 American scientists disagree that there is a crisis. Sept 2019

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/38797/


Climate change, pollution, and the great civilizations of the past: Exactly how climate science was hijacked for the political agenda.    September 2019

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/39960/


New: Teen Climate Activist Speaks To Congress:   Blatant scientific fraudulence and child abuse used as the latest scheme to push the extreme propaganda. September 2019

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/39525/          


Tens of thousands of scientists like metmike(an atmospheric scientist) know that there is no climate crisis/emergency. Of course the MSM will not report this. 


Scientists coming out of the woodwork-no climate crisis! October 2019

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/41293/

By metmike - Nov. 9, 2019, 4:42 p.m.
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You can get all the Climate Reality discussions here:

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/27864/


30 years ago, when the UN and others got this hoax started, we didn't have an internet or ability to research data and educate ourselves, just news sources reporting.

Those news sources have become much more biased and powerful........they only tell us one side. However we do have the internet now and man, can it be a powerful source of enlightenment for us to see hoaxes like this(if our brains are not previously captured with the anti science belief system of a climate crisis).

That's the only reason for this and other threads here.

Sharing authentic science and authentic facts that represent truth.

In all 20+ discussions on climate here, massive legit data sources(hundreds) from credible scientific institutions and scientists are the main part of most of them when they relate to actual climatic conditions.

I've been observing and analyzing global weather patterns on a daily basis for 37 years.


However, we opened this thread with a speech from a very uniformed Bill Gates, spreading misinformation about CO2 and climate.

Many more people will be affected(become dumber) from listening to his speeches on climate than will read the truth here..........by a wide margin.

That tells you who has been winning the battle.

But the longer that the climate optimum continues, the harder it will be to continue to spin it as a crisis/emergency..............but at the same time, they are going into overdrive on the brainwashing.........telling us its even worse(as it gets better).\

Once somebody is convinced of something, even if its false, their brain discards things that contradict what they have assumed is the truth and only believe things that reinforce that belief system.

We are being told the planet is dying............so a massively greening up planet in truth, does not compute with that belief system..........so, the massively greening up planet gets discarded.


Even by Bill Gates!!!!

By metmike - Nov. 10, 2019, 10:24 a.m.
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Here is the last climate optimum on our planet, as defined by all science in every field....... until just over 30 years ago when climate science was hijacked by the United Nations for a political agenda(global socialism) using their Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

Now, the same conditions are being called a climate crisis/emergency. Add in the entirely beneficial increase in CO2, and life on this planet has not had it better since humans have existed. Not in spite of but because of humans. This is  only applies to our climate/weather/CO2.

An enormous amount of life on this planet has it much worse because of humans for many other reasons(as an environmentalist, this is an outrage and blatant hypocrisy). Why is this not being addressed and only beneficial CO2 is..........the climate accord will do nothing except transfer money from rich to poor countries(by taking your money)??

We are going to spend tens of trillions "saving the planet" from something that is greening up the planet and good for all life and ignore all the other problems??  The reason this "cause" is getting all the attention are those tens of trillions of dollars. Spending that money will do ZERO to affect the weather/climate but 20,000,000,000,000 is alot of money and governments in some countries like Canada and states like California are already taking it from you with their carbon taxes which will be going MUCH higher. Not if but when and how much. (make no mistake. it WILL come from you) with the carbon taxes which will be widespread in all developed countries.

Holocene climatic optimum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_climatic_optimum


Temperature variations during the Holocene from a collection of different reconstructions and their average. The most recent period is on the right, but the recent warming is only seen in the inset.


The Holocene Climate Optimum warm event consisted of increases of up to 4 °C near the North Pole (in one study, winter warming of 3 to 9 °C and summer of 2 to 6 °C in northern central Siberia).[1]


Out of 140 sites across the western Arctic, there is clear evidence for conditions warmer than now at 120 sites. At 16 sites, where quantitative estimates have been obtained, local HTM temperatures were on average 1.6±0.8 °C higher than now.  Northwestern North America had peak warmth first, from 11,000 to 9,000 years ago, and the Laurentide Ice Sheet still chilled the continent.  Northeastern North America experienced peak warming 4,000 years later. Along the Arctic Coastal Plain in Alaska, there are indications of summer temperatures 2–3 °C warmer than present.[5] Research indicates that the Arctic had less sea ice than the present.[6]


metmike: If you never heard about this climate optimum(other than here) ask yourself,  "self, why are we not being told about an even warmer period 6,000 years ago that caused all life on this planet to flourish?"

Since it WAS warmer and we noted the benefits to life then........ not speculated or theoretical benefits(from models)..........real world benefits that really  happened, why are we calling it a crisis/emergency now?

By metmike - Nov. 10, 2019, 12:30 p.m.
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Is this a planet dying because of increasing CO2 and climate change?

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth


Carbon Dioxide Fertilization Greening Earth, Study Finds

                   

      

From a quarter to half of Earth’s vegetated lands has shown significant greening over the last 35 years largely due to rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide, according to a new study published in the journal Nature Climate Change on April 25.

An international team of 32 authors from 24 institutions in eight countries led the effort, which involved using satellite data from NASA’s Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectrometer and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Advanced Very High Resolution Radiometer instruments to help determine the leaf area index, or amount of leaf cover, over the planet’s vegetated regions. The greening represents an increase in leaves on plants and trees equivalent in area to two times the continental United States.

globe of Earth from North Pole perspectiveThis image shows the change in leaf area across the globe from 1982-2015.Credits: Boston University/R. Myneni

Green leaves use energy from sunlight through photosynthesis to chemically combine carbon dioxide drawn in from the air with water and nutrients tapped from the ground to produce sugars, which are the main source of food, fiber and fuel for life on Earth. Studies have shown that increased concentrations of carbon dioxide increase photosynthesis, spurring plant growth.

However, carbon dioxide fertilization isn’t the only cause of increased plant growth—nitrogen, land cover change and climate change by way of global temperature, precipitation and sunlight changes all contribute to the greening effect. To determine the extent of carbon dioxide’s contribution, researchers ran the data for carbon dioxide and each of the other variables in isolation through several computer models that mimic the plant growth observed in the satellite data.

By metmike - Nov. 10, 2019, 1:21 p.m.
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Cult followers of the climate religion:


https://twitter.com/i/status/1193273344138891264


AOC: It’s only when we talk about acting on climate do some ask,“how are you going to pay for it?” As though climate inaction doesn’t have a price tag. As though the Midwest didn’t flood. As though California isn’t on fire. As though 1000s didn’t die in María.

metmike: Mentioning extreme events that have happened before in similar fashion (I have the records) and are part of normal weather........to people that don't have the weather records and are not atmospheric scientists to convince them that its unprecedented and because of a climate crisis is brainwashing for the political agenda. 


Here's how we bust frauds:

Midwest floods:  Over the last 3 decades, The Midwest has had the best crop growing weather in the last 1,000 years with only 1 widespread drought, 2012, when historically 3 to 4 droughts occurred during a similar time frame(the 1930's was a decade of drought). There were worse floods than that of 2019 before the "climate emergency" Why was this one from the climate crisis?  Answer, it wasn't. A warmer atmosphere does hold more moisture- 5%-6% in this case(which is often a good thing) and it did likely increase rain amounts a bit but the benefits of climate change have outweighed the negatives by a factor of 10 to 1. 

Good discussion on that here:

What if this weather is the new normal?: Wet Springs/delayed planting-drought-Food production-River flooding-US rain records-April 2019  

  https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/28957/


California wild fires: Climate models actually forecast MORE rain in California. The increase in CO2 is causing more growth and fuel for these fires............but it's also feeding an additional 1 billion people on this planet. The solution? Adaptation that is absolutely available. California, get your act together. Stop blaming climate change and start managing the forest floors, cleaning up all the dead stuff that is like gasoline. No brainer. That way we can continue to green up the planet and feed more people because of the benefits of increasing CO2.

California projected to get wetter through this century

https://phys.org/news/2017-07-california-wetter-century.html


Hurricanes/Maria/Katrina: Every bad hurricane(or weather extreme),  we are now told is from the climate crisis. They were quiet for over a decade from 2006 to 2016 when no major hurricanes hit the US, then when they were active again from a natural cycle/dynamic they are all caused by the climate crisis. The worst hurricane in history  was during the Little Ice Age and global cooling, in 1780.


                U.S. Major Hurricane Drought Ends at Record 4,323 Days                                                         

                                    By Susan Jones                                    | August 26, 2017 

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/major-us-hurricane-drought-ends-after-record-4323-days


Great Hurricane of 1780

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Hurricane_of_1780

By metmike - Nov. 10, 2019, 1:55 p.m.
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So Bill Gates, AOC and others can give compelling speeches and sound very convincing but one thing that they will never be able to show you, is the data to back up what they say.

That data shows the complete opposite of what they say, which is why I show it and they don't!


By metmike - Feb. 22, 2021, 2:26 a.m.
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Bill Gates was just interviewed by Chris Wallace on Fox News.


Time to adjust his science grade even lower, to an F-- and kick him out of school for telling lies (-:


He insisted that the intense cold/snow in Texas was caused by global warming/climate change and claimed that wind turbines had nothing to do with it.

He said that climate change altered the winds and caused them to come down from cold places more often. 

He said that "CO2 stays in the atmosphere for thousands and thousands of years"....exact quote.  He may be off by a factor of more than  100!

Earth Day: Climate Change NOT accelerating-CO2 Residence time-Logarithmic affect-legit science-April 2019

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/28402/


https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/28402/#28465




By metmike - Feb. 22, 2021, 2:44 a.m.
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I also keep hearing that the amount of electricity that TX gets from wind is just a tiny fraction and having half the wind turbines freeze up didn't make any difference.


Winter Storm 2021                                    

No, frozen wind turbines aren’t the main culprit for Texas’ power outages

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/02/16/texas-wind-turbines-frozen/


Wind power in Texas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_in_Texas

Facts seem to contradict those statements:

Wind power in Texas, a portion of total energy in Texas, consists of over 150 wind farms, which together have a total nameplate capacity of over 30,000 MW (as of 2020).[1][2] If Texas were a country, it would rank fifth in the world:[1] The installed wind capacity in Texas exceeds installed wind capacity in all countries but China, the United States, Germany and India. Texas produces the most wind power of any U.S. state.[1][3] According to the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT), wind power accounted for at least 15.7% of the electricity generated in Texas during 2017, as wind was 17.4% of electricity generated in ERCOT, which manages 90% of Texas's power.[4][5] ERCOT set a new wind output record of nearly 19.7 GW at 7:19 pm Central Standard Time on Monday, January 21, 2019.[6]

The wind resource in many parts of Texas is very large. Farmers may lease their land to wind developers, creating a new revenue stream for the farm. The wind power industry has also created over 24,000 jobs for local communities and for the state. Texas is seen as a profit-driven leader of renewable energy commercialization in the United States. The wind boom in Texas was assisted by expansion of the state’s Renewable Portfolio Standard, use of designated Competitive Renewable Energy Zones, expedited transmission construction, and the necessary Public Utility Commission rule-making.[7]

The Los Vientos Wind Farm (912 MW) in South Texas, is the state's largest wind farm. Other large wind farms in Texas include: Roscoe Wind Farm, Horse Hollow Wind Energy Center, Sherbino Wind Farm, Capricorn Ridge Wind Farm, Sweetwater Wind Farm, Buffalo Gap Wind Farm, King Mountain Wind Farm, Desert Sky Wind Farm, Wildorado Wind Ranch, and the Brazos Wind Farm.

By metmike - Feb. 26, 2021, 3:23 p.m.
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            metmike: please scroll down for later posts, up for previous posts.

        

Alarmism 

    

Bill Gates on Climate Change: All the Coral and Trees will Die

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/02/26/bill-gates-climate-change-all-the-coral-and-trees-will-die/

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Losing time against climate disaster

Philanthropist Bill Gates warns of environmental perils ahead and outlines a plan to treat them


https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2021/02/in-online-harvard-talk-bill-gates-warns-of-environmental-perils/

Powerplant.


metmike: This is what  STEAM/H2O coming out of a smoke stack and darkened to make it look more ominous looks like. CO2 gas has no smell and its not visible. People that show this with their articles on the fake climate crisis, like this one............. are proving how dishonest they are. 

By metmike - Feb. 26, 2021, 3:41 p.m.
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Bill: “The reason the goal should be zero is that when you put CO2 [carbon dioxide] up into the atmosphere, it stays there for thousands of years, so it’s the sum of all the CO2 you’ve put up for all the time since the Industrial Age. That determines how much we push the temperature up,” Gates said."


metmike: It was pretty insane an unsupportable when the IPCC said CO2 stayed in the atmosphere for 100 years(most scientific studies are around 10 years) but for Gates to say that CO2 stays in the air for thousands of years is delusional, made up junk science. If we stopped emitting all CO2, the increase in plants from the greening planet and greater CO2 consumption it causes, would gobble up so much CO2, so fast that the levels would crash back closer to where there were 100 years ago within 10 years.


CO2 might actually end up lower and plants would be in CO2 starvation mode again, like they were over 100 years ago, when crops did so poorly because of it. 


https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/28402/#28465

“A molecule of carbon dioxide, on average, lasts about 100 years in the atmosphere......according to the most extreme IPCC below"

metmike: There's alot of debate and different opinions on this one. It can't be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt because the carbon budget involves interactions between so many things. Common scientific sense tells one to question that 100 year figure that they use in fact, the majority of scientists, have found that time,, called  the residence time of CO2 in the atmosphere to be much, MUCH less than 100 years.

Note the red line below, the one used by the IPCC goes out to 100 years and many other scientists BEFORE climate science was hijacked, pretty much agreed on something that was just a fraction of that....around 10 years or less on average.


 http://jennifermarohasy.com/2009/09/why-i-am-an-anthropogenic-global-warming-sceptic-part-3/


https://c3headlines.typepad.com/.a/6a010536b58035970c0120a5e507c9970c-pi

From the scientist at the above link: “IN order for increased human carbon dioxide emissions to cause accelerated global warming, the climate models need to assume that carbon dioxide remains in the atmosphere for a very long time, up to 100 or more years.  

“Since the IPCC’s task is to prove any global warming is due to human CO2 emissions, they decided to proclaim that carbon dioxide was long-lived in the atmosphere – a fabricated assumption.

“They did this despite the overwhelming majority of peer-reviewed studies (and corroborating empirical measurements) finding that CO2 in the atmosphere remained there a short time. Literally, a fabricated assumption, driven by political agenda, became a cornerstone of fraudulent climate model science. As a result, billions spent on climate models that are unable to predict with any accuracy."

By metmike - Feb. 26, 2021, 3:45 p.m.
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Gates: "The CO2 accumulates like water in a bathtub that’s already almost full, he said. When it hits a certain level, it overflows and, in the case of climate, it tips."

metmike: WOW! He IS delusional. The ideal amount of CO2 for most life on this planet is more than double this. 

The ideal temperature for most life on this planet is 2 deg. C warmer than this.

     

 

NEW:  Optimal CO2 for life more than double current level. See the proof with thousands of studies. Showing Scientific American.....and mainstream science sold to us........ to be wrong about plants and the affects from Climate Change. December 2020

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62784/

By metmike - Feb. 26, 2021, 3:54 p.m.
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“You have to act now, decades in advance, to avoid getting to these really extreme outcomes,” Gates said."


metmike: I remember when now, meant 1989, then it was 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020. Every year for over 3 decades.


U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked

PETER JAMES SPIELMANNJune 29, 1989

   UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000. 

   Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ″eco- refugees,′ ′ threatening political chaos, said Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program, or UNEP. 

   He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control. 

   As the warming melts polar icecaps, ocean levels will rise by up to three feet, enough to cover the Maldives and other flat island nations, Brown told The Associated Press in an interview on Wednesday. 

   Coastal regions will be inundated; one-sixth of Bangladesh could be flooded, displacing a fourth of its 90 million people. A fifth of Egypt’s arable land in the Nile Delta would be flooded, cutting off its food supply, according to a joint UNEP and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency study. 

   ″Ecological refugees will become a major concern, and what’s worse is you may find that people can move to drier ground, but the soils and the natural resources may not support life. Africa doesn’t have to worry about land, but would you want to live in the Sahara?″ he said. 

   UNEP estimates it would cost the United States at least $100 billion to protect its east coast alone. 

   Shifting climate patterns would bring back 1930s Dust Bowl conditions to Canadian and U.S. wheatlands, while the Soviet Union could reap bumper crops if it adapts its agriculture in time, according to a study by UNEP and the International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis. 

   Excess carbon dioxide is pouring into the atmosphere because of humanity’s use of fossil fuels and burning of rain forests, the study says. The atmosphere is retaining more heat than it radiates, much like a greenhouse. 

   The most conservative scientific estimate that the Earth’s temperature will rise 1 to 7 degrees in the next 30 years, said Brown. 

      He said even the most conservative scientists ″already tell us there’s nothing we can do now to stop a ... change″ of about 3 degrees. 

   ″Anything beyond that, and we have to start thinking about the significant rise of the sea levels ... we can expect more ferocious storms, hurricanes, wind shear, dust erosion.″ 

By metmike - Feb. 26, 2021, 3:58 p.m.
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We didn't listen or act aggressively to eliminate CO2 emissions as they told us had to be done.........or face an apocalypse...... CO2 went up even faster than expected(with China leading the way higher and continuing higher...........even with the Climate Accord).


OH MY! Let's see what actually happened:


By metmike - Feb. 26, 2021, 4:04 p.m.
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UAH Global Temperature Update for January 2021: +0.12 deg. C (new base period)

 February 2nd, 2021 by Roy W. Spencer, Ph. D.


https://www.drroyspencer.com/2021/02/uah-global-temperature-update-for-january-2021-0-12-deg-c-new-base-period/

https://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_January_2021_v6.jpg

The linear warming trend since January, 1979 remains at +0.14 C/decade (+0.12 C/decade over the global-averaged oceans, and +0.18 C/decade over global-averaged land).

metmike: The recent, natural La Nina continued to cool global temperatures. This may last for a few more months. ....then, we will go back to the slow/slight, mostly beneficial warming for life on this greening planet. 


Carbon Dioxide Fertilization Greening Earth, Study Finds

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth

An international team of 32 authors from 24 institutions in eight countries led the effort, which involved using satellite data from NASA’s Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectrometer and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Advanced Very High Resolution Radiometer instruments to help determine the leaf area index, or amount of leaf cover, over the planet’s vegetated regions. The greening represents an increase in leaves on plants and trees equivalent in area to two times the continental United States.

globe of Earth from North Pole perspective

This image shows the change in leaf area across the globe from 1982-2015.

Credits: Boston University/R. Myneni

Green leaves use energy from sunlight through photosynthesis to chemically combine carbon dioxide drawn in from the air with water and nutrients tapped from the ground to produce sugars, which are the main source of food, fiber and fuel for life on Earth. Studies have shown that increased concentrations of carbon dioxide increase photosynthesis, spurring plant growth.

However, carbon dioxide fertilization isn’t the only cause of increased plant growth—nitrogen, land cover change and climate change by way of global temperature, precipitation and sunlight changes all contribute to the greening effect. To determine the extent of carbon dioxide’s contribution, researchers ran the data for carbon dioxide and each of the other variables in isolation through several computer models that mimic the plant growth observed in the satellite data.

Results showed that carbon dioxide fertilization explains 70 percent of the greening effect, said co-author Ranga Myneni, a professor in the Department of Earth and Environment at Boston University.


metmike: So the planet experienced slight beneficial warming and greened up and we are in the early stages of a CLIMATE OPTIMUM. 

This is the complete opposite of what was supposed to happen. 

And we should  believe them now, in 2021, after they were wrong every year since the 1980's??

By metmike - Feb. 26, 2021, 4:14 p.m.
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More bs from Bill in this article: “There are points at which when the corals die off, they never come back,” Gates said. “This is acidifying the ocean, and all the aqua ecosystems die off as that acid level goes up"

The science says otherwise:

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/25818/#25873


The ocean ph is above 8.0 on the ph scale and will never get close to even being in the vicinity of  acidic and many studies show the drops in ph will be BENEFICIAL to much of the sea life. 


By metmike - Feb. 26, 2021, 4:25 p.m.
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More junk science by Bill: "Without changes in global practices, “It’s going to be essentially unlivable at the Equator by the end of the century… [leading to] the instability of hundreds of millions of people trying to get out of those regions where a lot of the world’s population is, and particularly the poorest in the world,” he said."


metmike: Climate change is, by far warming the coldest places, during the coldest times of year the most. Yes, it is getting slightly hotter in the tropics(but could be less than 1 deg. C warmer there in 100 years).  However..........

Cold still kills 15 times more humans than does extreme heat. Cold kills more than 200 times more life than does extreme heat.

By metmike - Feb. 26, 2021, 4:33 p.m.
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Bills last statment: “Avoiding a climate disaster will be one of the greatest challenges humans have ever taken on — greater than landing on the moon, greater than eradicating smallpox, even greater than putting a computer on every desk.”


metmike: (the environmentalist and atmospheric scientist). To avoid a disaster caused by humans OVERreacting to the fake climate crisis.............ignore Bill Gate's advise on anything related to climate. 

However, do practice environmentalism to be good stewards of the planet using the truth:

The real environmental crisis's/insects dying-dead zones-aquifers drying up-plastics in the ocean-landfills/trash(metmike is a PRACTICING environmentalist): April 2019

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/27498/

By metmike - May 23, 2021, 12:01 a.m.
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Now we find out that Gates was lying about more than the climate crisis:

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/69834/


Just another climate hypocrite, like Al Gore, John Kerry, Barack Obama, Bernie Sanders and many other elites that use 10 to 100 times more fossil fuels than the rest of us but tell US, that WE are the ones that need to give up fossil fuels.

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/69314/#69380


Bill Gates and Jeffrey Epstein: Timeline of Their relationship

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/69232/