Yuri Bezmenov - Ex-KGB on Ideological Subversion in America
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Started by madmechanic - Sept. 1, 2019, 1:23 p.m.

If you have not seen this, it's worth watching and may well help to explain much of what has happened in American schools. I know this seems like I'm fanning the flames of the "Russia Collusion" hot topic, but that is not my intent, just trying to share/bring awareness to an interview I found very interesting to watch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA&t

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By metmike - Sept. 1, 2019, 2:04 p.m.
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More than interesting madmechanic,

One of the best posts ever here.

Most would think this guy is nuts but he has nailed it exactly.

When he did this interview a  long time ago, he especially sounded crazy.

Read my latest post, that I was typing about exactly..............EXACTLY what he was saying.

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/38137/

Our youth have been indoctrinated as he predicted. Think about every candidate running for the nomination and their insane, made up stuff on the Green New Deal that could NEVER work in the real world.

Think about how a climate optimum has been sold as a climate crisis(now an emergency).

He says that you can show people all the data and proof of whatever you want but they will never believe it once their minds have been captured(brainwashed) and that's exactly what has taken place. 

They are in a religious cult, with leaders like Sanders, AOC and the far left that many people have laughed off as not a serious threat because of their not even half baked ideas and they say so many ludicrous things and make no sense in the real world.

But they are now in the positions of power and have tens of millions of followers..........the young people who, as this guy told us, were indoctrinated, starting a very long time ago.

I have explained previously, how the UN did it, starting over  30 years ago, when they hijacked climate science. 

Here's the story:

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/37944/

                Ilhan Omar wants the UN to handle US border crisis            

                      Started by GunterK - Aug. 29, 2019, 3:05 p.m.          

  

The United Nations?

Most people may wonder who started this fake climate crisis.

Actually, most people believe in it but may wonder what entity started sounding the alarms and acted to organize the world to fight it.

The UN ...........indisputably!

AP NEWS  PETER JAMES SPIELMANN  June 29, 1989

U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked

https://www.apnews.com/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0

   UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.

By 7475 - Sept. 1, 2019, 6:29 p.m.
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Well well well

Instead of saying"I knew it!" I'll say that it is nice to hear someone spell-out what I have sort of suspected all along.

John

Really---1984

By madmechanic - Sept. 1, 2019, 7:51 p.m.
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Here is the truly startling thing about that interview.


It was uploaded to YouTube in 2013 (honestly I'm surprised the YouTube overlords have allowed it to stay up), but the description on the video says that the interview was done 29 years prior.


That puts the interview in the range of 1984, which is what 7475 stated.

By metmike - Sept. 1, 2019, 10:23 p.m.
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1984?


Note the date(1989) on my post above about how the UN  had already hijacked climate science and has been brainwashing  the world continuously for over 3 decades(which has been taught in our schools for 15 years) about a completely fake climate crisis for their political agenda of global socialism........using the exact technique that this guy describes.


He  could not have known in 1984 who would do it(United Nations) and for sure he did not know that they would use a fake climate crisis but the technique's that he described is exactly, I mean exactly the brainwashing technique's that have been used to convince an entire generation of something that is made up.............the climate crisis, out of a climate optimum.

Look at what they did(shown below)! They took climate history of  over 100 studies(and historical reports/accounts) and completely erased it to wipe out the long held rock solid proof that the Medieval Warm Period was this warm or warmer.................so that they could teach that this current warming is unprecedented, dangerous and could only be caused by humans emitting CO2 to the youngest generations in the schools from an earlier enough point in their lives so that this is all they know.

And the only solution to save the planet is if all the worlds governments sign up together with a program(that would do ZERO to affect the climate) but instead rebalances all the resources on the planet under their leadership.

Instead of the Climate Accord, it should be called the "Robin Hood" agreement(-:


One of the saddest truths about their plan is that energy costs in country's like the US, under a Green New Deal scenario will at least double and by a wide margin, hurt the POOR in the US the most(because utility and fuel bills are will gobble up more of their smaller incomes). But the UN agenda is only concerned with poor countries, even as it crushes poor people in rich countries, like the US, who by definition of the plan, will be dependent on the government for everything.

You have seen all my data and science that shows the planet greening up, the booming biosphere, record crop yields and life flourishing.

But as the guy said, it doesn't matter. This is what I've been saying for over a decade. The authentic science doesn't matter because the faith in the climate crisis and the high priests/gatekeepers of the message is unshakeable.

When you educate people to believe in something in school, growing up, as if it's a principle, up there with gravity and the earth being round(which they claim the climate crisis is) authentic empirical data and observations of the real world show up in their brain as information akin to showing them a flat earth...........because they already know there is a climate crisis and anything that contradicts it..........ANYTHING, is wrong and comes from one of us deniers who don't have the faith and are not members of their cult.

And they did it, to convert the world to a new form of global governance, maybe not communism but instead world socialism. Clearly global socialism in every way, shape and form by the year 2030 with the United Nations as our leader.

After Trump is defeated and the new democratic president takes over, with their Green New Deal, and open borders and free healthcare and free  college and the US signing back up with the Climate Accord, where the US and rich countries give tens of billions(and obliterate their economies by getting rid of cheap fossil fuels) and the poor countries get all the money and grow their economies with increasing fossil fuels(including China and India which will increase CO2 thru that magical year of 2030 in the Climate Accord)............the objectives of global socialism will have been fully realized....with the United Nations as our leader

Look who was even calling for that last week:

                Ilhan Omar wants the UN to handle US border crisis            

                      https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/37944/

                Started by GunterK - Aug. 29, 2019, 3:05 p.m.            

A timeline with regards to their long lived effort to unite every country on the planet under one ruling entity, the United Nations to create global socialism. From the time they created the InterGOVERNMENTAL panel on climate change to hijack climate science in 1988 and tell us what actions need to be taken to save the planet(during a climate optimum by all objective scientific measures) which are nothing but actions that impose global socialim under the guise of a blatantly anti science, fake climate crisis.


UNFCCC -- 25 Years of Effort and Achievement

Key Milestones in the Evolution of International Climate Policy

https://unfccc.int/timeline/

 

By metmike - Sept. 1, 2019, 10:43 p.m.
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Since this was very clever and hard to believe scheme of the United Nations, going back over 3 decades that I've covered before but is hard to follow and for many impossible to believe, let's review it with the clear evidence of what the UN and IPCC did to hijack climate science again.


On the bar graph below, over 100 studies from the Medieval Warm Period, most of which show the planet was this warm or warmer 1,000 years ago.

Sources for those studies are below. 

Medieval Warm Period Project:

http://www.co2science.org/data/mwp/institutions.php

http://www.co2science.org/data/mwp/scientists.php
http://www.co2science.org/data/mwp/mwpp.php


MWP-CWP Qualitative Temperature Differentials - CO2 Science
www.co2science.org
Figure Description: The distribution of Level 2 Studies that allow one to determine whether peak Medieval Warm Period temperatures were warmer than (red), equivalent ...



For the Medieval Warm Period compared to today all scientific studies  below:

Red balloons showed it was warmer.

Blue was colder than today.

Reds are greater than blues by a very wide margin and show the global warmth(greater than today) was widespread across the planet(one side insists that, yeah it was warmer but the warmth was just regional around Greenland to explain how the Vikings settled there and even grew some cold tolerant crops like barley where today, its still too cold to grow there).

Green was wetter/more precip

Yellow was drier

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/01/03/documenting-the-global-extent-of-the-medieval-warm-period/

fig-1-screenshot-of-mwp-project

Those were all real studies by real scientists that really found it warmer in the real world during the Medieval Warm Period. To get the actual studies go here and click on the individual balloons:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1akI_yGSUlO_qEvrmrIYv9kHknq4&ll=-3.81666561775622e-14%2C38.03818700000005&z=1

By metmike - Sept. 1, 2019, 11:06 p.m.
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It was also this warm 2,000 years ago during the Roman WARM Period and also just over 3,000 years ago, during the Minoan WARM period, evidence suggests maybe even warmer.

Note the name before period.........WARM. The results of all the authentic scientific studies are how those periods got called WARM periods.

But the warmest period of all during the last 10,000 years was not just called WARM it has always been and still is referred to the Holocene climate OPTIMUM, which occurred between 9,000 and 5,000 years ago. Like today's warmth and that of previous warm periods, the highest latitudes warmed the most with these NATURAL WARMING events.

Warmer than today but called a climate OPTIMUM not a climate CRISIS or the new even scarier term, climate EMERGENCY!

Since this one occurred such a long time ago, we don't have nearly the scientific confidence of how far south the warmth extended and no anecdotal, historical accounts like those that fill volumes of books about the Medieval WARM period(Viking settling in Greenland).


Holocene Climate Optimum:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_climatic_optimum


 

"Temperature variations during the Holocene from a collection of different reconstructions and their average. The most recent period is on the right, but the recent warming is only seen in the inset.

The Holocene Climate Optimum warm event consisted of increases of up to 4 °C near the North Pole (in one study, winter warming of 3 to 9 °C and summer of 2 to 6 °C in northern central Siberia

Out of 140 sites across the western Arctic, there is clear evidence for conditions warmer than now at 120 sites. At 16 sites, where quantitative estimates have been obtained, local HTM temperatures were on average 1.6±0.8 °C higher than now.  Northwestern North America had peak warmth first, from 11,000 to 9,000 years ago, and the Laurentide Ice Sheet still chilled the continent.  Northeastern North America experienced peak warming 4,000 years later. Along the Arctic Coastal Plain in Alaska, there are indications of summer temperatures 2–3 °C warmer than present.[5] Research indicates that the Arctic had less sea ice than the present."



metmike: 2019 is still considered the Holocene period in geology which  began, by definition at the end of the last glacial period that ended 11,650 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene

The graph below ends well before the year 2000 and so it doesn't show what is at least another 1 deg. C temp spike up at the end of the graph. But clearly it was a heck of a lot warmer in Greenland thru much of the last 8,000 years. Crystal clear!

File:Greenland ice sheet temperatures interpreted with 18O isotope from 6 ice cores.png

By metmike - Sept. 1, 2019, 11:16 p.m.
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1. So by any objective standard, it was clearly warmer than this in the past before increasing CO2 from humans burning fossil fuels would have had an affect.

2. The descriptions of that warmth, on all scientific studies previous to when the UN hijacked climate science were universally, indisputably beneficial/positive.

3. The Mother of all warm periods, since the end of the last glacial period that was  MUCH warmer than this in the higher latitudes has always been referred to as the Holocene Climate OPTIMUM. It will take another couple of centuries of warming at this rate to reach similar warmth in the highest latitudes.

4. This is not metmike's verbiage or definition.  It's the authentic science and all the evidence to support it conclusively right here in black and white. The data is the data. It's been this warm or warmer during  at least 4 periods that lasted over 150 years each over the last 6,000 years.


By metmike - Sept. 1, 2019, 11:48 p.m.
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Enter the picture, United Nations in the 1980's with a brilliant scheme to accomplish their objective of creating global socialism in part to balance the vastly unequal wealth  and resource  distribution in the world between the rich countries(with the US being the richest) and the mostly poor countries on the planet(some extremely poor).

Every developed/rich countries life blood that powers their economy is access to cheap, reliable and abundant energy...............in all cases, fossil fuels(oil, natural gas and coal).

Burning fossil fuels emits CO2, which has increased from under 300 parts per million to over 410 ppm currently.  CO2 is also a greenhouse gas that helps to beneficially warm the planet(towards the next climate optimum).

What if you could convince the world that the perfect global temperature and CO2 level was back when we started burning fossil fuels at the start of the age of industrialization and that CO2 (which was extraordinarly deficient a century ago and is a beneficial gas in biology, agronomy, zoology, climate science) is a pollutant causing all sorts of harm, mostly based on busted computer models programmed with mathematical equations that were picked 3 decades ago and are not being  changed to  adjust model projections  down to measured warming, which has been much less.........because they would no longer support a crisis to scare people so that they will do what people like Bernie Sanders and the UN insist must be done to save the planet using schemes like the Climate Accord and Green New Deal that would do absolutely nothing to affect the weather of climate but would 100% accomplish the objective..........socialism and the fair distribution of wealth to everybody based on the Robin Hood principle.



By metmike - Sept. 1, 2019, 11:56 p.m.
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This is how they did it:

Initially, the United Nations created the IPCC(Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) in the late 1980's. It was determined that this entity would be the worlds authority on human caused climate change and all governments and its scientists would follow their reports as their "climate bible" for what has turned into religious type beliefs about some of the information as they ignore the actual observations and focus on the use of climate models to determine governmental policies.


The profound evidence that the IPCC was blatantly corrupted early on,  in a way that will be hard for you to comprehend..........but the proof is right here on the following pages.

One of the first things that the IPCC did was to erase the Medieval Warm Period from climate history.......because it showed temperatures warmer than this without humans causing it. Several corrupt climate scientists, especially Michael Mann and his tree ring study which led to the "hockey stick" graph played key roles. 

Seriously, since they were deemed the world's climate authority, wiping out the Medieval Warm Period was accepted by mainstream science despite all the evidence that I just showed. Governments, governmental scientists, the MSM and the gate keepers.. 

By metmike - Sept. 2, 2019, 12:05 a.m.
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The first graph was the one that was featured in the IPCC's very first report,  in the 1990's, when they were using the authentic climate history/studies that I just showed and still, today define authentic climate science...........  before they wiped out the Medieval Warm Period.

On the 2nd graph, look at the huge difference between the first one in the 1990's and  2001 in order to show that humans were causing all the warming.......no more Medieval Warm Period!!!!

The 2nd graph is based on one study, from a set of tree rings, from one corrupt climate scientist, Michael Mann..........all the other ones were tossed out. 

So the IPCC(created by the UN, the world's designated authority on climate science,........rewrpte climate history to wipe out the Medieval WARM period so that it could make a new climate history graph that showed  unprecedented warming spike just as humans started burning fossil fuels...............a complete(fake) illusion based on corrupt data. 


First IPCC report below, 1990's concurs with all other paleoclimatology.............there WAS a Medieval Warm Period:


https://realclimatescience.com/2017/06/ministry-of-truth-erasing-the-medieval-warm-period/



U.S. Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works

2001 IPCC report below, after hijacking climate science.  The Medieval Warm Period was completely wiped out(using one scientist's tree ring study) so that the Current Warm Period would appear to be unprecedented and caused by humans.

I will repeat this again because its the crux of what happened.

The IPCC was made the worlds authority on climate science. They then, took one set of tree rings from one scientist that showed no warming during the Medieval Warm Period which  contradicted the vast  majority(over 100) of the previous studies for that period and wiped out the Medieval Warm Period from climate history.

                                    


By metmike - Sept. 2, 2019, 12:18 a.m.
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Since that time, the bogus hockey stick graph is what now represents the redefined climate history.........which is taught in schools and accepted as the one to use in order to base political actions on.


Since an objective, critically thinking person knows with 100% certainty that they did this to climate history based on the authentic facts proving it here, one would have to ask:

Why in the heck would they do this?

It can't be a pro scientific reason because blatantly misrepresenting science is really bad for science. Climate science has been set back by many decades and it will take many decades to recover.

Of course the answer is clearly stated in the Climate Accord and Green New Deal which pretend to save the planet, while doing nothing except impose global and US socialism on people by tricking them with a scam.


By metmike - Sept. 2, 2019, 12:19 a.m.
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The 17 sustainable development goals (SDGs) to transform our world:

https://www.un.org/development/desa/disabilities/envision2030.html

#Envision2030 Goal 13: Take urgent action to combat climate change and its impacts

 

https://www.un.org/development/desa/disabilities/envision2030-goal13.html

      Welcome to the United Nations                                       

                                           

                               

Transforming our world: the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development

https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/post2015/transformingourworld


Say Hello to your future Mommy and Daddy!

By metmike - Sept. 2, 2019, 12:28 a.m.
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Say hello to, possibly your next new president and his agenda:

                Sanders Touts $16 Trillion Climate Plan            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/37437/


Say hello to the future of our Congressional leaders, already having a powerful voice that are young people follow like the Pied Piper:

                Ilhan Omar wants the UN to handle US border crisis            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/37944/

By metmike - Sept. 2, 2019, 12:36 a.m.
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The new democratic president will have us signed back up in the Climate Accord immediately after they take over;

Look what that bogus agreement does,  even if countries in it, abided by commitments regarding emissions...............yeah, not your imagination, they go UP because poor counties like China and India are allowed to increase emissions  with impunity(by design). It's not about CO2 emissions(CO2 is well mixed in the global atmosphere) or climate. Never was, never will be. It's about global socialism and global redistribution of wealth with the United Nations in charge.

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By metmike - Sept. 2, 2019, 12:40 p.m.
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For more discussions on the real climate on this planet........not the imaginary one described by one side or created on BUSTED, speculative simulations of a possible future climate...........otherwise known as global climate models, go here:

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/27864/

By metmike - Sept. 2, 2019, 3:59 p.m.
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I'm going to demonstrate here, how biased,  anti science sources will make it look like the hockey stick graph represents science and this gets sold by the gatekeepers as the real science.

I just showed you hundreds of scientific studies that conclusively showed the Medieval Warm Period. Many of them occurred before climate science was hijacked and got rewritten and climate scientists(most of who work for governments) retrained and resourced with billions in funding as they follow the UN/IPCC's guidance as the climate authority for all country's on the planet. All those studies are valid!


But check this out below:

Climate myths: It was warmer during the Medieval period, with vineyards in England

                                                                                                                                                                                                               Earth                                                                                                                                                                  16 May 2007                                                                                            https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11644-climate-myths-it-was-warmer-during-the-medieval-period-with-vineyards-in-england/

                            

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Wow, I guess I must be wrong. All those studies I showed earlier must be wrong. What else would explain the temperature graphs above that all line up with Mann 1999/Jones 1998/Briffa 2001(the hockey stick graph).

Orrrrrrr, maybe that, all of a sudden, immediately AFTER climate science was hijacked and climate history was rewritten, using the hockey stick graph, these other scientists, being retrained with the new belief system(do know that in the 1990's-metmike was one of them before my independent objective analysis contradicted it because I was trained before the brainwash).......were effected by it. Look at the years of the studies they chose and  they did not pick any of the 100+ other studies that I showed earlier which show something completely different. It's as if, suddenly every scientist(that we see) agrees on extreme warming now- when before-most thought it was warmer in the Medieval Warm Period)

So we have:

1. Mostly younger generation of scientists taught after climate science was hijacked by the UN/IPCC showing one thing-the warmest(some say in the last 125,000 years) and

2. Most of the older scientists not taught anything except to follow the data before climate science was hijacked finding something completely different.

The Medieval Warm Period  was 1,000 years ago, so the data didn't suddenly change.

Hmmmmmm, I wonder what could have changed and why we only get one sided scary information that supposedly 97% of scientists agree on...........but I showed you the studies of that being a lie. Did all those scientists in the studies that I showed die??

Probably several did and thats exactly whats happening. As us older atmospheric scientists using authentic data retire and die. the ones trained after climate science was hijacked replace us. 

This is happening in politics too. This has resulted in the Green New Deal, Climate Accord and other off the charts socialist agenda.

And there is no stopping it.

The younger generation has been reprogrammed. It can't be reversed. The next generation is being taught by the ones already reprogrammed............positive feedback.

Somebody that has been convinced of the crisis and that this is the warmest in XXX,XXX number of years, in reading this, thinks I'm full of crap and my authenic data must be made up. Regardless of the reason to not believe the truth, they won't believe it.............in most cases because the lie has been defined as the truth for them.


By metmike - Sept. 2, 2019, 8:08 p.m.
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Part of the brainwashing strategy is to label people like me "deniers".

Trying to establish a connection to us not believing in their fake climate crisis and the Holocaust Deniers, then treating us like we are anti science and have a mental disorder. Here's one of thousands of examples that I picked at random to show how they are full of sheet:

"How your brain stops you from taking climate change seriously"


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/how-your-brain-stops-you-from-taking-climate-change-seriously

"Part of the reason it takes us so long to act is because the human brain has spent nearly 200,000 years focused on the present."

Apathy and discounting (why news stories about polar bears don’t inspire action)"


A polar bear outside Churchill, Manitoba, which is located on the animals' annual migration route. Photo by Tim Auer/Polar Bears International


metmike: Actually, they are sort of right about us "deniers" focusing on the present...........as in using the observations and empirical data of the real world that show conclusively that we are having a climate optimum vs broken climate models (that don't match up with the PRESENT) simulating a manufactured world that has become increasingly unlikely to happen.

With regards to discounting news about polar bears. Who's discounting, we just pick the news of the real world/present as they say, not the manufactured one that was created to help enforce the brainwash and  has been exactly wrong.

Here's my polar bear news:

https://www.thegwpf.org/as-polar-bear-numbers-increase-gwpf-calls-for-re-assessment-of-endangered-species-status/

"In 2005, the official global polar bear estimate was about 22,500.

Since 2005, however, the estimated global polar bear population has risen by more than 30% to about 30,000 bears, far and away the highest estimate in more than 50 years.

A growing number of observational studies have documented that polar bears are thriving, despite shrinking summer sea ice. "


Get your real polar bear science here:

https://polarbearscience.com/2019/02/

State of the Polar Bear Report 2018: Polar bears continue to thrive

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Climate Policy Research

    

Polar Bear Numbers Could Have Quadrupled

https://www.thegwpf.org/polar-bear-numbers-could-have-quadrupled/


  • Date: 19/03/19         
  • Press Release, Global Warming Policy Foundation        

Researcher says attempts to silence her have failed

  

Polar bear numbers could easily exceed 40,000, up from a low point of 10,000 or fewer in the 1960s. 

By metmike - Sept. 2, 2019, 8:16 p.m.
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Here's an example of their news:


FAKE NEWS: 'Nat Geo' Photographer Admits Viral Photo Of Polar Bear 'Dying From Climate Change' Is False

https://www.dailywire.com/news/33782/fake-news-nat-geo-admits-viral-photo-polar-bear-amanda-prestigiacomo


"The "fake news" narrative was viewed by over 2.5 billion sets of eyes, becoming the magazine's most viral video in their history."


How many of those 2.5 billion, looked at the video and also knew about the actual data about polar bears thriving with their population exploding higher as proved by the facts on the previous page?(keep in mind, the gatekeepers intentionally do NOT share the real data with you)

How many looked at the video and let it affect their opinion on climate change?


By metmike - Sept. 2, 2019, 8:21 p.m.
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https://www.thegwpf.com/death-of-a-climate-icon/


    

  • Date: 31/08/17
  •                 
  •              Susan Crockford, GWPF TV            

Since the start of this century, the polar bear has been the icon of human-caused global warming. But now the polar bear as poster child of catastrophic global warming is dead.

By metmike - Sept. 2, 2019, 8:23 p.m.
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And that example  is exactly why us deniers, who haven't had their brains captured and are not members of the climate change crisis club, don't believe in things that are not happening.


Yes, you can call it living in the present if you want.


Here's more of our present:

                Climate Reality discussions            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/27864/


In fact, so much more of the present (in the form of authentic data/science) that it repeatedly and convincingly obliterates the fake climate crisis.

By madmechanic - Sept. 3, 2019, 1:15 p.m.
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As a further extension of UN/IPCC hijacking of the climate topic for alternate motives, back in 2015 news came out about the Christina Figueres (Executive Secretary of the U.N.'s Framework Convention on Climate Change) wherein she was quoted saying the following:


"This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution,"


Source: https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/climate-change-scare-tool-to-destroy-capitalism/

Source: https://arizonadailyindependent.com/2015/03/06/top-un-official-admits-climate-change-is-about-transforming-world-economy/

By metmike - Sept. 4, 2019, 12:26 a.m.
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"That “economic development system” Figueres talks about is capitalism. The UN is attempting to transform that to global socialism governed by the United Nations."

Great article MM, thanks. 


I think an extraordinarily tiny amount of people actually realize what's going on and who's behind it. 

There seems to be almost no way to stop it. Globally the  vast majority of people are poor  to very poor and would love to have global socialism and of course are for the Climate Accord because all those countries get money and don't have to cut emissions. 

In the US, we have an increasing amount of people that can't put 2+2 together to get 4 on things that obviously can't work and make no sense in the real world like the Green New Deal and  that believe in a climate crisis during a climate optimum because they were told to believe in a bunch of things that are greatly exaggerated or not happening at all and believe that busted climate models that can predict climate disaster for the next 100 years because they are told to believe in it.

Some are people smarter than me with Phd's and highly educated, so it's not just hoodwinking a bunch of naive yo-yo's.

I think that intelligence is not the defining factor in falling for this scheme. There are a number of issues contributing but maybe the greatest is the lack of objectivety and motivation to use the "scientific method" which is to use critical thinking in seriously questioning what you are being taught by taking some time to do objective research, using empirical data to test facts and theories/statements/ideas that you are being asked to believe in based on trusting the source because you are told they are the experts.

This is where the total  bs 97% of climate scientists believe in the dangerous warming , so you must also believe it to, comes from.

The targets of this narrative, assume this "gee, I don't know diddly about climate science but if the uber authorities all agree so much, who am I, Joe knownothing to question their resounding, educated, expert opinion.

So they don't do a bunch of homework to check facts or science in a critical way

Then, when somebody like metmike comes along, who did their homework for them and hands it over on a silver platter.........maybe its just some outlier, crazy moderator on a forum vs thousands of climate scientists...........that they were told have defined climate science as settled like the law of gravity and the debate was over in 2007. when Al Gore and the IPCC won the Nobel Peace Prize for selling the climate crisis.


By metmike - Sept. 16, 2019, 3:54 p.m.
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https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/37944/

The United Nations?

Most people may wonder who started this fake climate crisis.

Many people actually believe in it but still, may wonder what entity started sounding the alarms and acted to organize the world to fight it.

The UN ...........indisputably!

AP NEWS  PETER JAMES SPIELMANN                      June 29, 1989

U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked

https://www.apnews.com/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0

   UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.

  "Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ″eco- refugees,′ ′ threatening political chaos, said Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program, or UNEP. 

   He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control. 

   As the warming melts polar icecaps, ocean levels will rise by up to three feet, enough to cover the Maldives and other flat island nations, Brown told The Associated Press in an interview on Wednesday. 

   Coastal regions will be inundated; one-sixth of Bangladesh could be flooded, displacing a fourth of its 90 million people. A fifth of Egypt’s arable land in the Nile Delta would be flooded, cutting off its food supply, according to a joint UNEP and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency study."

metmike: Disaster didn't come in 2000. Then it didn't come in 2015 as predicted by Al Gore and the IPCC in 2007 and here in 2019, we are told that it will be here in 2030 for the same reasons that it was supposed to come 19 years ago and 4 years ago. 

But we can save the planet  by doing exactly what they tell us must be done...........even though we saved the planet over the last 30 years..............by doing the complete opposite of what they said had to be done. We burned even more more fossil fuels and massively increased CO2. 

The real green new deal is the one which is causing the planet to massively green up from the increase in CO2.

The only green in the political Green New Deal is the green of your money changing hands............from out your pockets into the control of government. 

When you are having a climate optimum like this one, disaster..................NEVER comes......unless you do what they say.