How Donald Trump betrayed Ukraine
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Started by metmike - May 31, 2026, 8:03 a.m.

I voted for Donald Trump in November 2024 for 2 reasons.

1. To use my 1 vote to show my strong disapproval with the horrible leadership and agenda of the cognitively impaired Biden/Harris regime.

2.  Most importantly, despite greatly disapproving of Donald Trump, I was convinced that he was the only person who could end the war in Ukraine quickly. Ending the war in Ukraine was near the top of my list of priorities.  I had no idea that Donald Trump would hijack our democracy while the VAST majority Rs in Congress would enable, defend, support AND FEAR HIM!!!  Be able to replace many thousands of people in key roles with Donald Trump adulating MAGA  cult members. Turning the United States into an Authoritarian form of government. That form of government can actually work if the leader is making smart decisions and doesn't have a diseased, delusional brain with progressive dementia and isn't obsessed with personal conquest and making themselves a global legend instead of doing things to help their country or to make the world a better place.

Anyways, this is a comprehensive analysis of why Donald Trump catastrophically failed to end the Ukraine War. It's not because he didn't try. It's because he was totally focused on making Donald Trump look great instead of sincerely representing Ukraine and their best interests and the Americans that he promised he would end the war for to get their votes in the 2024 presidential election.

This has nothing to do with my personal opinion of Donald Trump. It's an objective analysis using authentic facts and the psychology of negotiating (with basic negotiating 101 strategy) and mindset of Donald Trump. 

He betrayed all of us in the worst way!

                Re: Trump's bombing countries illegally            

                           By metmike - May 30, 2026, 10:26 p.m.  

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As mentioned a dozen+ times here. The main reason that I voted for Donald Trump in November 2024 was because I actually believed he was the only one that could end the war in Ukraine quickly. Not in 24 hours as he insisted on the campaign trail but certainly within a few months. He clearly made an effort but the way that he went about it, turns out was exactly wrong.

Intentionally degrading and scolding Zelensky in front of a global audience in  order to show boat the omnipotent Donald Trump and trying to get him to adulate Donald Trump like all of Trumps other minions sent the exact wrong message to Putin.

If you are for the people of Ukraine, you don't trash their leader in public. In private, sure but that was the worst tactic ever from Mr. Art of the Deal, if you are representing Ukraine and trying to pressure Russia (that has all the cards) to end the war. This was just being a bully against somebody much weaker and sending a message to Putin that Russia holds the cards and advantages, so why should he stop???

Making it much worse is that with the person he should have been talking tough to, Putin he acted nice to and when he reported their private conversations, his version was pretending to have control over Putin to make Donald Trump look good(which is always the top priority of Donald Trump). No way! Instead this just caused Putin to see Donald Trump as a big mouth clown and PUTIN (who is also a psychopath with delusions of grandeur)  WAS NOT GOING TO LET A BIG MOUTH CLOWN CONVINCE THE WORLD THAT HE COULD CONTROL PUTIN!!!! Especially after he  told the world and Putin that Russia has all the cards.

What serious negotiator throws their side under the bus and tells the other side, that the other side has all the cards and gives them incentive to keep going?

If I was was a MLB agent for a weak player, Joe Zelensky of the NY Yankees being paid to get the best deal/contract from his team, I wouldn't lead off the negotiations with the team/owner/management by telling them that Joe Zelensky had to most strike outs in the league and  Joe also committed the most errors when he was in the field. Then, bringing Joe Zelensky in and scolding him in front of the owner for even wanting to be a MLB player and telling the player he should be grateful to the agent for even agreeing to represent him because he doesn't deserve to be in the MLB let alone being on the NY Yankees.

This is the art of the deranged deal!

This is what a TRAITOR DOES! Somebody that BETRAYS the person he is supposed to represent to make themselves look good!


The Ukraine war will end some day, maybe soon just based on Russia's Mt. Everest sized losses that continue to accumulate and can't be sustained forever. However,  Donald Trump's unjustified war in Iran, with him lifting the sanctions on Russia's oil and Donald Trump's self inflicted worst global energy crisis in history, gave Putin an additional 50% for his oil, which has sadly and ironically helped Putin to finance his war LONGER than if anybody else was president of the United States.

This is the 1, most important REAL world war, now over 4 years old that we were counting on Donald Trump to end. Not 10 fake wars.

To make it so much worse was his unjustified, unprovoked war in Iran to serve Bibi Netanyahu/Israel and severely punish the economies and people of every country in the world(except Russia)........while claiming to be the president of peace that ended 10 wars.

Making up the imminent threat of nuclear weapons, while all of Iran's enriched uranium has been buried deeply underground and sealed in cement since June 2025 and YEARS away from being used to make a nuclear weapon.

Donald Trump did the same thing again with the Iran war that he did when he BETRAYED the Ukrainian people. This time he betrayed the American people!

                Donald Trump has committed blatant treason!!!!            

                            Started by metmike - May 13, 2026, 8:16 a.m.        

    https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/120200/

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By metmike - June 1, 2026, 7:39 p.m.
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1. Bibi  Netanyahu OWNS Donald Trump

2. President Xi OWNED Donald Trump last month

3. Putin has OWNED Donald Trump in every interaction back to before his first term


How Netanyahu used Donald Trump for his war

Started by metmike - April 10, 2026, 4:10 p.m.

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119441/

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                Xi greets Trump in China                                                                  

                Started by metmike - May 13, 2026, 10:25 p.m.    

        https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/120215/

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This, while Bully, Donald Trump picks on weaker countries, SOME THAT ARE ALLIES. Venezuela, Cuba, Canada, Greenland, European NATO allies. Creating riffs and enemies with his scorched earth tariffs, wars and madman behaviors. 

He trashes the president of our ally, Ukraine, President Zelensky to try to make himself look tough. 

But Donald Trump is not tough on the right people! He's just a bully that abuses weaker countries, weaker people and those that need the assistance of the president of the United States and most powerful man in the world. 

He's appointed only WEAK people in thousands of positions that adulate him.

He's abusing his 40 million weak MAGA cult by capturing their brains by telling them things they want to believe in. They are no longer able to see outside the intelligence stealing lies that he feeds them to reinforce MAGA religion. 

The R's in Congress fear him because he can eliminate them by just telling his 40 million MAGA cult to shun that person at election time.

He steals from the poor and less fortunate and gives to the rich and powerful.

He's never had any empathy for anybody.......except himself(that he considers a victim that needs vengeance for anybody that ever opposed him) and for all those that ever did things to help him accomplish his self serving interests(Insurrectionists that committed violent felonies in his name to help him try to overturn the 2020 election for instance).


His objective is to make Donald Trump an historic legend and great conqueror. 

Think about all those legends,  that we greatly respect and  honor for their contributions to make the United States and World a better place. Their sacrifices and success at helping others. Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King Jr.

We can all probably name many dozens of  them. There are many hundreds that deserve recognition.

How many of them behaved like this:


                 $250 bill with Donald Trump on it!           

                               By metmike - May 30, 2026, 9:19 p.m.            


Can you imagine any of these great historical men and women that we honor behaving  like this?



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Donald Trump has already created a special place for himself in history and its the antithetical,  diametrically opposed, polar opposite of all the good people in our country and world.

By metmike - June 1, 2026, 7:40 p.m.
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By WxFollower - June 5, 2026, 12:43 a.m.
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How about this? 18 Republicans joined the Dems in defying Trump by voting to provide new support for Ukraine! I love it! But the Senate may not vote on it and even if they did and passed it, Trump would likely ultimately veto it:

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5911086-house-passes-ukraine-aid/

By metmike - June 5, 2026, 8:29 a.m.
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Thanks, Larry.

I didn’t know about this.

Very sadly, most of  our politicians don’t really  give a crap about Ukrainians.

They are bought and paid for by the military industrial complex as well as whatever their party compels them to align with.

Most votes are determined by their  PARTY lines NOT with what’s right and wrong or what’s best for our country.

It may have appeared as if I’ve flipped on this issue in some respects but it’s just the opposite.

I always support the Ukrainian people. The first few years of sending them on suicide missions to lose a war badly to enrich the military industrial complex and politicians and calling that “supporting Ukraine” was complete bs.

The millions of Ukrainians that had somebody in their family that was a casualty of the war certainly did not appreciate the PENALTY their family paid for the role of the United States in the war.

The dynamics have changed  under Donald Trump and Russia now having been worn down by 4 years of sustaining the war.

If this causes Russia to finally capitulate and come to some sort of peace agreement, will the fight have been worth it?

Hell no x 1 million!

1. All those dead human beings will never come back.

2. The trillions in losses from structural damage to tax payers to energy costs to inflation pressures are forever.

3. Ukraine will NEVER get back all the land that it lost. No chance!!

4. This could have all been completely avoided if Biden had agreed with Putin in 2021 to ban NATO from  expanding into Ukraine instead of telling Zelensky  to reject Putins demand and instead. Telling zelensky that he would get Ukraine into NATO AND, with the assistance of the powerful military industrial complex  fromm the great USA, they would defeat Russia as a team. With the US giving them  all the weapons they would need, all Zelensky needed to do was provide all the soldiers.  
It was a losing strategy on day 1, as I screamed loudly about here from the get go. You CANNOT win a war of attrition like the one that Putin knew he would win when the other side has 3 times as many soldiers and their military leader is willing to sacrifice all of their lives to win it.

This is not me doing Monday morning quarterbacking.I insisted this from day 1 back in 2022. Biden thought otherwise and picked a war he thought he would win  because he wanted NATO to expand and hated Russia so much, and didn’t value the lives of Ukrainians enough.

Biden would never have sacrificed any American lives…..too unpopular. Too valuable.

Ukrainian lives?  They were disposable and with THEIR leader willing to get them all killed for his personal agenda and lack of leadership or military understanding as a professional actor and comedian prior to being elected and him being elevated to a great military hero by the despicable media (Traveling to all the NATO Countries to sell his war, while making catastrophic military blunders-on the battlefield, 1 after the other) with the media propaganda appealing to his massive ego….as they sold the complete lie of Ukraine winning while they were getting their arse’s whooped badly, .this was the exact wrong thing to do.

Just tell Putin NO NATO! was the right thing.
After Putin invested so much, he’s not going back to the original deal and he won’t trust any deal.

Hes a brutal psychopath, obsessed with what is best for Russia, the motherland and he considers Ukraine to be part of that. He looks at Russians, not as human beings but just units and pawns that are there to serve Russia as determine by his infallible omnipotence.

There is plenty of evil in the world and we can’t stop all of it completely.

Sometimes, you have to make smart choices when the evil has enormous military power that they WILL use with reckless abandon.

Instead of fighting evil in a war of attrition with unthinkable losses like those in Ukraine, we could have simply given in to evil with their 1 main demand that in perspective was actually reasonable.

NO EXPANSION OF NATO into Ukraine!

In 2021 that’s all we needed to do.


By WxFollower - June 6, 2026, 9:01 p.m.
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Thanks, Mike.

 My point is that I typically love it when DT doesn’t get his way. Ultimately though, it doesn’t look to lead to increased aid for Ukraine as he’d likely veto it if the Senate were to actually bring it to a vote and also approve.

By metmike - June 8, 2026, 11:41 a.m.
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Agreed, Larry.

Sad that we have a president that says many more things that are lies,  often huge lies than the truth.

And many of his policies and agenda are BAD and when they are blocked it's good for Americans and the world. 

The case from MAGA that we should tolerate his galactic bloviating and lying because his policies are so good and justify supporting him just doesn't hold water. 

Instead of having our cake and eating it too, we don't have the cake AND we don't eat it with Donald Trump!

You can't have your cake and eat it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_can%27t_have_your_cake_and_eat_it

Choosing between having and eating a cake illustrates the concept of trade-offs or opportunity cost.

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With Donald Trump, not only do we lose our cake without eating it, we lose more than just our initial cake.

In addition, THE WORLD loses more than their initial case, while Donald Trump enriches himself!!

Take for example his ruinous ILLEGAL tariffs and the worst global energy crisis in history(unjustified and against International law) that were 100% Donald Trump self inflicted.

And the man that brags about all the FAKE wars that he stopped, can't even stop the 1 war he campaigned on stopping in 24 hours and he's been in office 17 months. If anything, he's caused it to last even longer by taking off the sanctions on Russia and boosting the price of crude that Putin gets for his oil which helps him to finance the war even longer.

By metmike - June 16, 2026, 1:48 p.m.
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Macron tells Zelensky he had ‘difficult’ meeting with Trump ahead of Ukraine talks as duo caught in hot-mic moment

https://nypost.com/2026/06/16/us-news/macron-says-he-had-a-difficult-meeting-with-president-trump/



By metmike - June 24, 2026, 5:40 p.m.
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Anybody that wants the extremely long history of how this war was started (by Joe Biden refusing to negotiate with Putin) can go here:


                Re: Re:  Who speaks the truth? NOT NATO!                                                 

                By metmike - March 27, 2024, 12:25 p.m.      

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This became water under the bridge when Donald Trump took over and he's completely messed things up from the get go.

Now, DESPITE HIM MUFFING THINGS UP, he's being gifted an opportunity that one would think even Donald Trump can't mess up.

Putin is asking for peace talks. It’s time to kick him while he’s down

Putin is rattled and Trump needs a win – this is the chance for Ukraine and her allies to force the collapse of Russia’s army and push back against its land grab

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/putin-ukraine-peace-talks-europe-uk-trump-b3002175.html

By metmike - June 24, 2026, 6:46 p.m.
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ISW Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, June 23, 2026

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/78835

By metmike - July 18, 2026, 11:49 p.m.
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Ukraine ‘cuts off’ Crimea from Russia, plunging it into an energy crisis

Ukraine is ramping up short-, medium- and long-range drone production to bring Russia’s war to a standstill.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/7/17/ukraine-cuts-off-crimea-from-russia-plunging-it-into-an-energy-crisis

INTERACTIVE-WHO CONTROLS WHAT IN UKRAINE-1784190625

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 Joe Biden caused this war to start but Donald Trump is likely causing it to last even longer. 

Donald Trump: 

1. The man who promised to end the War in Ukraine fast. Instead, has a position that contributed towards it continuing still 18 months after he took over.

2. The man who ended 8 FAKE wars.

3. The man that ended the wonderful Obama peace/nuclear deal with Iran very suddenly in 2018(signed by numerous other countries)  with no good explanation or replacement.

4. The man that started an unprovoked, unjustified, illegal war with Iran in 2026, days after Iran had agree to Donald Trump's demands to reduce their enriched uranium.

5. The man that committed treason against the United States and ALL of our Intelligence about Iran to follow the leader of another country (Bibi Netanyahu of Israel) because he wanted to be seen as an historic war hero and legend, defeating Iran with ease by dropping bombs from the world's most powerful military. 

         Donald Trump has committed blatant treason!!!!            

                            Started by metmike - May 13, 2026, 8:16 a.m.       

     https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/120200/

6. WHOOPS!  Nothing but catastrophic blunders and failures when it comes to wars. With none of our allies joining us or on our side (except the psychopaths leading Israel). Destroying relationships with all of our allies. 

7. The response?  Make up advertisements and false narratives with blatant lies telling Americans the opposite of the truth and repeating them over and over and over and over.

                New Donald Trump propaganda ad bombarding us            

                            Started by metmike - June 26, 2026, 2:54 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/121158/

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  Re: Re: Allied  Countries helping Trump   (NONE)         

                            By metmike - July 2, 2026, 12:45 p.m.            

            June 23, 2026

Trump Gets Negative Reviews Internationally as Fewer Say U.S. Is a Reliable Partner

36-country survey finds declining ratings for the U.S. amid rising concerns about its foreign policy and the health of its democracy

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2026/06/23/trump-gets-negative-reviews-internationally-as-fewer-say-u-s-is-a-reliable-partner/


metmike: Blue=UNreliable below

Our neighbor and closest ally, Canada for instance has gone from having just 16% of their people seeing  the United States as UNreliable before Donald Trump's presidency, up to 65% now........and rising.

That's 4 times higher and the MAJORITY. Entirely the result of Donald Trump's profoundly failing foreign policies.


This is stunning and easily unprecedented AND GLOBAL and extremely damaging. 

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June 25, 2026            

President Trump Declared "America is Back," During the Kick Off Celebration for the Country's 250th Anniversary

      https://www.c-span.org/clip/public-affairs-event/president-trump-declared-america-is-back-during-the-kick-off-celebration-for-the-countrys-250th-anniversary/5201911

The President gave a speech Wednesday on the National Mall in Washington, DC. Trump said in his speech, "A short time ago, we were a dead country, we were dead, now we're the hottest country anywhere in the world," he continued, "We're respected by everybody. Nobody is laughing at us anymore. Two years ago." Trump also emphasized America's strengths including its military and people.


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https://www.whitehouse.gov/

while energy dominance and cost-cutting measures have significantly improved affordability for families.

Abroad, a doctrine of peace through strength has secured alliances, ended eight wars, and positioned America as an indispensable force for global stability. As these achievements compound, we have unmistakably entered a Golden Age of American greatness, promising even greater opportunity and security ahead.

By WxFollower - Aug. 7, 2026, 12:30 a.m.
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Trump’s declassified docs reveal that Russia tried to help him in 2020 – a claim the president has long denied

“The White House released a series of documents Thursday evening promoting President Donald Trump's assertion that U.S. elections are vulnerable, though at least one contains information the president has previously denied.

Among the trove of election integrity documents, released in tandem with the president's speech, one National Intelligence Council assessment on "Foreign Threats to the 2020 Election" determined that Russian government-linked actors were trying to boost Trump's campaign.

The document insinuates that Russia seemingly preferred Trump and wanted to boost his campaign on social media while disparaging former President Joe Biden's then-presidential campaign.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/trump-declassified-docs-reveal-russia-153433659.html

By metmike - Aug. 7, 2026, 4:13 p.m.
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Thanks very much, Larry!

The issue of foreign interference has been used by both sides to support their propaganda for why it caused the other side to win or used it's profoundly impactful influence to alter the results.

This is hogwash from both sides.

Of course our foreign adversaries/allies have been attempting to influence the results of our elections in  way that favors their interests for many decades. The country that probably does it the most is the United States to other countries.

In 2016, after Donald Trump won, the losing side spent $25 million over 2.5 years with a corrupt Mueller investigation to try to discredit Donald Trump's win....intentionally giving us the impression that he colluded with Russia that entire time.

Most of their convictions (that they touted) were from people in the Trump circle for lying under oath when they lied about questions that were used to get them to lie. There was ZERO evidence of Donald Trump colluding with Russia and Russia didn't do anything different than they always do. It was all just a huge Witch hunt to wreck Donald Trump.


                Re: Re: more actual evidence of The Hoax            

                            By metmike - July 19, 2025, 3:11 p.m.   

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8-7-26: This was one of my favorite posts:

                more actual evidence of The Hoax            

                        By metmike - July 26, 2025, 6:14 p.m.            

            

This actually makes Nixon look like a saint with Watergate and that is way understated.


The media is pretending this never happened, just like they and 51 US intelligence agency "authorities" pretended Hunter Biden's laptop was a Russian conspiracy theory.

Well, it DID HAPPEN! This is a tiny  example of it from a so called reputable MSM source.

Trump JR. DID NOTHING WRONG!!!

https://time.com/magazine/us/4856210/july-24th-2017-vol-190-no-4-u-s/

How Donald Trump Jr.’s Emails Have Cranked Up the Heat on His Family

         

 

It all adds up, in the words of a senior Administration official, to a “sh-tstorm” that no White House staffer even tries to deny. The #FakeNews defense won’t work when the Trump family is the one tweeting the potentially incriminating emails. And all of Washington has awakened to the fact that the Russia issue has spiraled beyond anyone’s control. There are too many investigations and too many targets–each with his own interests to protect and his own team of attorneys to protect them–and too many enemies created by Trump’s bull-in-a-china-shop style. It’s not a question anymore of putting them all in a box and shutting the lid. It’s only a question of how bad it will get.

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COMPLETE BS!!!! This article belongs in the all time Hall of Shame for articles written by the media. 

There were hundreds like it because of this corrupt investigation!

Ironically, Time Magazine claims "The #FakeNews defense won’t work", towards the end of a FakeNews article they wrote  that demonstrates and proves that they were in fact, FAKE NEWS

   

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Back to August 7, 2026:  Some of the evidence was on the old forum BEFORE Alex died and before I took over in April 2018 and before we split the forum up to create an NTR section so that people interested in only reading Market related stuff didn't need to deal with political stuff. 


Recently, Donald Trump insisted that China interfered in 2020 with a play out of the Witch hunt playbook from the Ds/media false claims of what Russia did. Stuff that would have been impossible with the voting machines not hooked up to the internet. 

                Donald Trump's address to the nation 7-16-26            

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                Started by metmike - July 14, 2026, 9:50 p.m.   

         https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/121592/

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Here's the worst thing about this crapola.

It's having a huge negative impact on American's perception about the credibility of our electoral process and trust in election results. This is the most important part of our democracy. 


When Americans Trust Elections, They Are More Likely To Vote

  

Up to 5 million fewer votes were cast in 2024 due to decreased voter confidence in elections—showing what’s at stake in rebuilding a healthy democracy

https://statesunited.org/resources/when-americans-trust-elections/



 One of the many things that Donald Trump does not get is that his attempts to destroy the confidence of Americans in the integrity of our elections here in 2026, makes it less likely for Rs to vote this coming November. More than it hurts the D votes because the D voters have much more confidence that there vote will count!

By metmike - Aug. 7, 2026, 4:33 p.m.
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The Chart That Broke America's Trust in Polls

The 2016 election polls were, by the official autopsy, among the most accurate in modern history. The win-probability chart drawn on top of them was the disaster. Here is how a single number broke America's trust, and what a decade of research says will fix it before the 2026 midterms.

https://plotset.com/es/blog/the-chart-that-broke-america-s-trust-in-polls

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This article is about the ability of the media and polls to accurately measure the intentions of Americans before election day.


By metmike - Sept. 6, 2026, 10:35 p.m.
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Ukraine war briefing: US envoys leave Kyiv without breakthrough on ending

 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/sep/07/ukraine-war-briefing-us-envoys-leave-kyiv-no-breakthrough

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Zelensky says he expects war to continue into winter after talks with US envoys

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c6248nvqy8po

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Almost 70% of Ukrainians expect Zelensky to be replaced after war, poll shows

https://kyivindependent.com/almost-70-of-ukrainians-expect-zelensky-to-be-replaced-after-the-war-poll-shows/

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Zelensky refuses to have elections because he knows that he will lose. He has been a corrupt and horrible leader that betrayed his people and sacrificed their lives to serve NATO. Get this guy out ASAP!

He's just a professional actor with tremendous charisma used as a NATO puppet that broke all his promises on the platform he used to get elected (He promised to negotiate peace with Russia and instead, completely shut down negotiations and chose a  winner take all war with Russia that he is fighting to get Ukraine into NATO.(After Biden promised him that he would beat Russia with US weapons. All he needed to do was sacrifice the lives of hundreds of thousand of brave Ukrainian soldiers and he would win and get Ukraine into NATO.

4.5 years later, he sacrificed all those lives and here we are. Nowhere close to NATO.

He also promised to end rampant corruption in government with him in charge. Wrong!

Not only did he do the complete opposite of his promises, but he is acting as an authoritarian with Ukraine no longer practicing a democracy with elections. His 5 year term expired 2+ years ago.

He has declared Martial Law until the war is over and voting is illegal during Martial Law. A different leader would have likely negotiated a deal with Putin so it's galactically ironic that HE can't negotiate a deal for peace but as long as he can't negotiate a deal for peace...........he get's to stay in office....which means no deal for peace, which means no elections and he stays in office.

By metmike - Sept. 20, 2026, 5:08 p.m.
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Britain cannot fiddle while Putin’s shadow war threatens Europe

https://www.yahoo.com/news/world/articles/britain-cannot-fiddle-while-putin-053000293.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAC-P82Jj18dXerK5vLp90GeFMVnlIybmJkFhwq1iz0BQs7CfEl1cFL-xf0aTF6P-CWFButKJ2T3f1sVtgt5wPMjaLQqo5cChtf7VhyrKs8azVr6mt9rSIoW7cr3FE7pa16HOocu8eu9mNmGpuvUXbPzFaTmhHRrXExMAbO1isSW0

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Complete rubbish!!!!!!!!!!

1 minute they are telling us that Ukraine is winning and Russia is losing the war badly, then the next minute they are telling us that Putin is going to take on all of Europe and NATO (if he attacked even 1 country in NATO- the pact commits EVERY country in NATO to defend the attacker)  in addition to his battle with Ukraine.

1 or both of those things has to be completely wrong. 

Putin's battle is to keep NATO out of Ukraine before Ukraine can sign on to that pact so he doesn't have to fight NATO!!!!

He has been crystal clear about that from well before the war and Biden stopped the negotiations and told Zelensky to stop the negotiating because he would give Ukraine all the weapons they needed to defeat Russia AND get Ukraine into NATO. 

And here we are 4.5 years later with some of the same propaganda and lies circulating about the threat to Europe from Russia.

Putin considers Ukraine to be part of the Motherland of Russia and drew a line in the sand on NATO's blatant violations to their promise not to expand. He only cares about keeping Ukraine out of NATO, which would mean NATO bases on his border!!!!

Putin DID invade illegally and is a diabolical psychopath/killer but NATO caused this because they want Ukraine and were not willing to stop short of that.

By metmike - Sept. 28, 2026, 9:15 p.m.
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Wall Street Journal Has 2 Withering Words For Donald Trump’s Latest Putin Move

The newspaper’s conservative editorial board warned exactly how the G-20 meeting may play out if the Russian president does indeed attend.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/wall-street-journal-donald-trump-putin-g20_n_6aba05dce4b00588e1d4ff0f

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Wall Street Journal Nails Donald Trump Over His Warning To Ukraine

The newspaper’s conservative editorial board blasted it as “political excuse-making on a grand scale.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/wall-street-journal-donald-trump-russia-ukraine_n_6aa78f59e4b0781f96931593?origin=article-related-nonlife

By metmike - Oct. 9, 2026, 7:11 p.m.
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Get this. Instead of sanctions on Russia for Putin's war on Ukraine, Donald Trump is now FINANCING his war and bragging about it  

From The White House

To meteormike


Breaking News

President Trump Strikes a Major Diesel Deal to Bring Prices Down.

 
President Trump has just concluded a highly successful discussion with Russian President Vladimir Putin, securing an agreement for Russia to supply millions of tons of diesel fuel to the American and global marketplace. The President says diesel prices are coming down — fast.
4.8 Million+
Tons of Diesel Fuel
@realDonaldTrump
“I have just concluded a highly successful discussion with President Vladimir Putin, of Russia, wherein it was agreed that Russia will immediately supply over 300,000 Tons of Diesel Fuel to the American and Global Marketplace, another 500,000 Tons during the month of November, and 1,000,000 Tons immediately thereafter. Additionally, based on the condition of their Diesel Refineries, Russia will then deliver, within a short period of time, 3,000,000 Tons of Diesel Fuel. Between our TOTAL CONTROL of the Strait of Hormuz, and this great announcement on Russian Energy, Diesel Prices for Americans and, indeed, the World, will be COMING DOWN, IN RECORD NUMBERS, AND FAST! Lower prices for Americans, especially our Great Farmers, Ranchers, and Truckers, is my Greatest Priority. This is a very big and important announcement. Additionally, it must be understood, that Iran will not have a Nuclear Weapon! Thank you for your attention to this matter. President DONALD J. TRUMP”
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The White House

Iran will not have a nuclear weapon??????????

This is a completely FAKE excuse for the unjustified was that has been a completely self inflicted disaster by Donald Trump because Netanyahu convinced him that it would be an easy win and make Donald Trump an historic legend of the Middle East.

Donald Trump CANCELLED the wonderful, effective Iran Nuclear Deal that President Obama and numerous countries worked hard on negotiating and signing.
He cancelled it because it was an accomplishment of Obama, who he hates.
He replaced it with............NOTHING!!!
Then, in June 2025 his master in Israel told him to bomb Iran. The US bunker buster bombs deeply buried all of Iran Nuclear stuff underground, where our Intelligence Department reported it to still be in February 2026, with ZERO signs of Iran doing anything to try to retrieve the deeply buried enriched uranium or obliterated facilities.
Trump completely ignored all those truths and bombed Iran because Israel told him too.
#1 and #2 at our National Intelligence Department resigned.
Since then, Trump has repeated the lie that this war was about Iran not having a nuclear weapon.
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This treason and betrayal of the United States is 1 of the many dozens of impeachable offenses by Donald Trump!
                Tulsi Gabbard resigns            
                            12 responses |                      
                                            Started by metmike - May 22, 2026, 3:13 p.m.  
         https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/120389/

Fake nuclear weapons threat justification:
                Iran nuclear weapons false narrative(s)            
                            Started by metmike - April 25, 2026, 9:07 a.m.    
        https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119788/

   How Netanyahu used Donald Trump for his war            
                            Started by metmike - April 10, 2026, 4:10 p.m.    
       https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119441/


 Donald Trump has committed blatant treason!!!!            
                            Started by metmike - May 13, 2026, 8:16 a.m.        
    https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/120200/

By metmike - Oct. 10, 2026, 11:24 a.m.
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AI Overview

The Trump administration's new agreement to purchase Russian diesel does not technically violate the letter of the law, but it directly contradicts the intent and policy of the Lindsey O. Graham Sanctioning Russia and Iran Act of 2026. [1]While critics and lawmakers argue that the deal defies congressional intent, the legally binding framework of the Graham Act includes broad waiver authorities and structural exemptions that allow the executive branch to bypass certain restrictions under specific economic or national security contexts. [1, 2]The Policy ConflictOn October 9, 2026, President Donald Trump announced an energy deal with Russian President Vladimir Putin for Russia to supply up to 4.8 million tonnes of diesel to U.S. and global markets to ease fuel prices. To facilitate this, the U.S. Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) immediately issued General License 135, authorizing transactions involving the sale, delivery, offloading, and importation of Russian diesel into the United States through April 7, 2027. [1, 2, 3]This directive creates a massive policy conflict because Trump had signed the bipartisan Lindsey Graham Russia Sanctions Act just three weeks prior (September 18, 2026). The law was explicitly designed to restrict the Kremlin's energy revenues by enacting up to 500% tariffs on Russian exports and 100% secondary tariffs on top global purchasers of Russian oil and gas. [1, 2, 3]Bipartisan BacklashA wide range of lawmakers have fiercely criticized the administration's move, arguing that using executive licenses to import Russian fuel undermines U.S. foreign policy and provides economic relief to Moscow: [1, 2]

  • Senator Richard Blumenthal (D-CT): The co-author of the sanctions act called the agreement an "embarrassment," a "stain on our nation's character," and "directly contrary to Congress's intent." [1, 2]
  • Representative Steny Hoyer (D-MD): Released a statement calling it "outrageous" to purchase Russian diesel in direct contravention of the legislation signed last month. [1]
  • Republican Lawmakers: House members including Rep. Don Bacon (R-NE) and Rep. Michael McCaul (R-TX) also publicly criticized the deal for undercutting pressure on Russia's war economy. [1]

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This agreement will help finance and sustain Putin's war against Ukraine!!!

By patrick - Oct. 10, 2026, 4:08 p.m.
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Just a reminder that this is a pure gift to Russia, as the US can make all the diesel we need.

By metmike - Oct. 10, 2026, 6:32 p.m.
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That's a great point, patrick!

The liquid energies are traded on a global market and globally, Donald Trump's energy crisis has resulted in huge shortages in numerous regions/countries with prices spiking to record highs, taking US prices along with them. 

AI Overview

Yes, the United States produces more than enough ultra-low sulfur diesel (ULSD) to cover its own domestic consumption, though it still imports and exports smaller amounts based on regional logistics and market pricing. [1]Production vs. Consumption Facts

  • Domestic Production: U.S. petroleum refineries and biomass-based producers generate about 1.76 billion barrels (roughly 73.80 billion gallons) of ULSD per year. [1]
  • Domestic Consumption: Total U.S. ULSD consumption sits at about 1.42 billion barrels (roughly 59.56 billion gallons) per year. [1]
  • Imports and Exports: Even though overall national production outpaces total consumption, the U.S. still imports a small fraction (around 0.06 billion barrels, heavily sourced from Canada) to balance regional distribution, and exports diesel to global markets. [1]
  • Refining Constraints: Although the U.S. is the world’s top diesel producer, refiners cannot simply ramp up diesel output at will. Distillate fuel makes up only about 30% of a typical barrel of crude oil, and existing refineries operate near maximum capacity, which can still lead to tight regional inventories or price spikes

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For this time of year, heating oil/diesel storage is the lowest ever with the heating season coming up.

With the main driving season being over and heating season ahead, refiners shift to making more heating oil and less gasoline. Considering the favorable spread right now, there is financial incentive for them to go especially heavy on the heating oil/diesel production!

                Crude/gas/diesel 9-19-26            

                           Started by metmike - Sept. 19, 2026, 4:46 p.m.  

          https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/122871/


                Re: Re:  Crude/gas/diesel 9-19-26            

                            By metmike - Sept. 26, 2026, 9:43 p.m.            

     

Crude prices are very tied to the NEWS right now. NEWS about the Iran war. NEWS about the Strait of Hormuz. NEWS about other supply disruptions(Russia, Saudi Arabia)  that are unusually powerful because of the current global energy crisis from supply side caused, bullish short term fundamentals that refuse to be resolved. 

This is especially impacting diesel and heating oil prices. 

Note how low we are on the graph below. However, EVERY dip below 100,000 occurred at the END of Winter/in early Spring after Winter drained supply. The amount of heat oil stocks in August/September of 2026 have been the LOWEST in history compared to all previous August/September's!

However, the extreme supply swings from Fall highs to end of Winter lows that existed for decades have been much less pronounced in recent year. Otherwise, heating stocks at the current 107,000 barrels X 1,000 BEFORE the upcoming Winter would be potentially ominous. 

Graph below is updates with last weeks data:

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WDISTUS1&f=W



Is Heating Oil the Same as Diesel?

https://dollarwiseoil.com/heating-oil-vs-diesel/        

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AI Overview

Yes, refiners can adjust their output mix to make more heating oil and less gasoline, but only within strict physical and technical limits. [1, 2]How the Shift Works

  • Seasonal Adjustments: As summer ends and autumn or winter begins, refiners routinely tweak their operations to shift yields from gasoline toward middle distillates (which include home heating oil and diesel). [1, 2]
  • Economic Incentives (Crack Spreads): Refiners look at profit margins—called the "crack spread"—between crude oil and finished products. If heating oil or diesel becomes more valuable or profitable relative to gasoline, they tune distillation and cracking units to pull a slightly higher share of distillates out of the barrel. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Why They Cannot Just "Swap" Them

  • Fixed Barrel Yields: A typical 42-gallon barrel of crude oil naturally yields a fixed baseline of products—usually about 19 to 20 gallons of gasoline and 11 to 13 gallons of distillates (diesel and heating oil), with the rest going to jet fuel, asphalt, and other substances. [1]
  • Rigid Infrastructure: Refineries are complex networks of towers, hydrocrackers, and cokers built for specific crude types. A plant cannot simply choose to double its heating oil output or stop making gasoline just because one fuel's price spikes. [1]
  • Boiling Range Limits: Gasoline and heating oil have very different molecular weights and boiling points. You cannot broadly turn a gasoline stream into heating oil on a whim without hitting hard engineering and product specification caps

                                

By metmike - Oct. 11, 2026, 12:36 a.m.
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Trump says Ukraine should ‘get a new president’ after U.S.-Russia diesel deal

Ukraine’s Zelensky “wants to make problems for the world,” Trump said Saturday, a day after praising Russia’s Putin.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/10/10/trump-says-ukraine-should-get-new-president-after-us-russia-diesel-deal/

The agreement with Russia was also panned widely by allies who have worked to sanction Russia, by Democrats, and by Trump’s former vice president, Mike Pence, who called it a “betrayal” of Ukraine, which continues to report casualties and disruptions since Russia’s invasion.