I JUST READ SOME OF THE COVID DISCUSSIONS ON HERE, FROM LAST YEAR.
BEING AN "ANTI-VAXXER", MYSELF ~ ALONG WITH ALL OF MY LOCAL FAMILY MEMBERS, DUE FIRST TO OUR CHRISTIAN BELIEFS & SECONDLY, DUE TO DISTRUST OF "SCIENCE" & GOVT.
I GOTTA WONDER WHY IT WAS ILLEGAL FOR THE "INVENTOR" TO BE JABBED. REUTERS, LATER FACT CHECKED IT (LOL) https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-biontech-ceo-vaccinated-idUSL1N2SR1W7
Jean,
I enjoy our friendship and your opinions here a great deal and have no problem with you bringing up this topic here.
Just to let you know the facts about you and your family being anti vaxxers from a scientist that spent many hundreds of hours studying the AUTHENTIC science about vaccines and COVID vaccines.
1. If you don't want to trust authentic science.......that's your choice and on you.
2. Anti vaxxers are some of the most anti science, closed minded people that I've ever met that believe in science DISinformation but not legit science.
3. They will almost never concede to authentic science.........or else they wouldn't remain entrenched in their world of DISinformation and junk science...... often justified by religion or freedom of choice. I also have the right to bang my head against the wall all day if I want to do that. Especially if Tucker Carleson says its good for my brain.
4. Having discussions with ANTI science people like that is pointless because, by definition, they don't believe in the science and the authentic science defines my position on EVERYTHING.
I get having the freedom to get vaccinated or not. This is your right in most cases but making up DISinformation about the very low risk, high benefits of vaccination to justify not getting vaxxed is complete bs.
I don't know everything but what I do know about COVID and the COVID vaxx is generously shared and I don't pretend to know more about it than the amount that lines up with learned sound principles of science, medicine and virology.
Every anti vaxxer I've every met follows anti science, anti biology and anti medicine when it comes to this topic. Otherwise, how could they be so wrong on so many things related to it.
Almost none of them got it from independent, objective studying of authentic science which is obvious from their beliefs/conclusions. I know where they get it because I watch Fox and read the Epoch times too.
Sources like that which use anti vaxx positions for political agenda and target people who go to those sources because they think they are beacons of light, fighting the government or fighting the woke crowd and standing up for American's rights.
I like the principle behind that but NOT the method of using propaganda, junk science and lies to trick people that sincerely want the truth.
On your link, I'm completely puzzled about the point. If you clarify it, I can try to elaborate more on that specific item.
These are just some of the threads/discussions that I had on COVID before you returned. We've learned new things since then and I haven't stayed on top of it like I was until earlier this year, so I can still learn alot more.
COVID vaxx DISinformation/information compilation
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/87451/
Sorry to sound harsh.
MIKE....
NO NEED TO APOLOGIZE TO ME FOR SOUNDING HARSH ~ I FOUND NO HARSHNESS IN YOUR OPINION OR BELIEF. I GET A KICK OUT OF HOW OBSTINATE YOU CAN BE IN YOUR GROUPING MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T AGREE WITH YOU, INTO ONE LUMP. "Just to let you know the facts about you and your family being anti vaxxers from a scientist that spent many hundreds of hours studying the AUTHENTIC science about vaccines and COVID vaccines."
"They will almost never concede to authentic science.........or else they wouldn't remain entrenched in their world of DISinformation and junk science...... often justified by religion or freedom of choice. " MY GOODNESS, MIKE. MY BIBLE ISN'T SCIENCE. MY BIBLE FOR THE CHRISTIAN'S, DOESN'T APPROVE OF ABORTION. EVERY "VACCINE" FOR COVID HAS FETUS CELLS.
VACCINE: suspension of weakened, killed, or fragmented microorganisms or toxins or other biological preparation, such as those consisting of antibodies, lymphocytes, or messenger RNA (mRNA), that is administered primarily to prevent disease. (NOTE THE WORD; PREVENT.)
OBVIOUSLY, THE COVID JABS AREN'T VACCINES. PLAIN & SIMPLE. NOW, READILY ADMITTED BY "SCIENCE".
"I also have the right to bang my head against the wall all day if I want to do that." IF THAT'S WHAT "TRIPS YOUR TRIGGER" BE MY GUEST. LOL I CHOOSE NOT TO.
" Having discussions with ANTI science people like that is pointless because, by definition, they don't believe in the science and the authentic science defines my position on EVERYTHING. " I LOVE SCIENCE & BIOLOGY, SO... I DON'T FIT IN THAT DEFINITION/CATEGORY.
"I get having the freedom to get vaccinated or not. This is your right in most cases but making up DISinformation about the very low risk, high benefits of vaccination to justify not getting vaxxed is complete bs." I DON'T MAKE UP DIS-INFORMATION, AND I THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING MY RIGHT TO CHOOSE. WE ALL HAVE THAT SAME RIGHT. LOL THE "bs.". IS THAT ANYTHING LIKE BOVINE STOOL?
"I don't know everything". ME, NEITHER. NO HUMAN BEING DOES, EVEN THO' SOME THINK/BELIEVE THEY DO.
"On your link, I'm completely puzzled about the point. If you clarify it, I can try to elaborate more on that specific item." THE POINT IS ~ WHY THE ILLEGALITY IN "VAXXING" THE "INVENTOR" OF THE FAKE "VACCINE". DID YOU NOTICE HE WASN'T WEARING A MASK? HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA WHAT FUNNNNNNNN.
Thanks, I get it now Jean.
You actually let that well know anti COVID vaxx site bamboozle you with COVID Vaxx DISinformation.
That interview was from December 2020 and that dishonest source is using it to try to trick people into thinking it was recent. Obviously it's working or you wouldn't have posted it here.
However, the footage used is from Dec. 22, 2020. It took place prior to vaccine rollouts in Germany (here), and was therefore prior to Sahin being legally eligible for the jab, which he explained in the video. He makes no mention of not taking it “for safety reasons”.
The professor has since been fully vaccinated – and has also received his booster shot – and so any posts claiming otherwise are false.
A spokesperson for BioNTech told Reuters via email: “Ugur Sahin received his first vaccinations early in 2021 and the booster a couple of weeks ago.
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“Dr. Ugur Sahin, CEO of BioNTech and inventor of the BIO N TECH Pfizer jab, refuses to take the jab for safety reasons.”
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-214866905868
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"The enemy is fear. We think it is hate, but it is fear." (Gandhi) There has been misinformation on social media that I am supposedly not vaccinated. In fact, my wife and I have both received 3 doses of the #BioNTech#Pfizer vaccine. For several months now, friends have been urging me to post a photo of me being vaccinated to address these false rumors.
This is exactly what I meant earlier about anti vaxx people. They will believe all COVID vaxx DISinformation because thats what they want to believe even when you profoundly debunk it with umpteen sources proving its DISinformation.
They reject authentic virology science and use their own brand of junk science supported by easy to debunk videos like the one that you just showed from a dishonest source.
They go to places like that because that's where they get the lies about COVID and the vaxx that they want to believe in.
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https://slate.com/technology/2021/03/youtube-rumble-vaccine-misinformation.html
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Research shows the emergent video platform can recommend conspiracy theories and other harmful content more often than not.
https://www.wired.com/story/rumble-sends-viewers-tumbling-toward-misinformation/
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Video sharing platform Rumble sends viewers tumbling toward misinformation
Wired / Wired Opinion / May 12
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Andrew Tate's migration to Rumble has boosted the popularity of the 'free speech' YouTube alternative that's home to conspiracy and hate.
https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/08/29/andrew-tate-rumble-video-app/
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The most serious of the “alt-tech” social-media platforms appealing to right-wing “anti-censorship” voices often slides under the radar.
By Kaitlyn Tiffanyhttps://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/10/what-if-rumble-future-social-web/671926/
Captured brains
15 responses |
Started by metmike - April 10, 2021, 12:32 a.m.
GOOD GRIEF, MIKE LOL
I POSTED THE FACT CHECK LINK... DIDN'T YOU SEE IT?
I KNOW THE VIDEO WAS MADE IN 2020... I DO KNOW HOW TO COMPREHEND WHAT I READ & I DON'T GO OFF 1/2 COCKED LOL
IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE WHEN THE VIDEO WAS MADE. HE WAS UNMASKED & UN-"VAXXED".
I know it doesn't make a difference to you Jean.
One of the things that bothers me the most about these evil, lying sources like Rumble is that they are targeting my friends with their intentional lies because they know how to manipulate people by stating lies that people want to believe that they absolutely know are blatant lies.
Everyone on the planet that isn't brainwashed with COVID vaxx DISinformation knows that there was a waiting list to be vaxxed in late 2020/early 2021 and it started with the elderly and people with pre existing conditions, of which Ugur Sahin was not one of them because he's young and healthy.
So he had to wait his turn and got the COVID vaccine as early as possible for his category. Then he got vaccinated 2 more times and even put an image of him getting vaccinated to bust/debunk the diabolical DISinformation pushing by sources like Rumble.
Despite this, they intentionally keep pushing the COVID vaxx DISinformation about him not getting the shot because it allows them to have so much control over the far right, some of who are my friends.
Even more diabolical about this is that their COVID vaxx lies have likely resulted in over 100,000 deaths from COVID, mostly republicans who are afraid of the COVID vaccine.
90,000 US COVID-19 deaths could have been prevented
Started by metmike - Jan. 9, 2022, 4:23 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/80126/
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Rural/Republican states hit hardest by COVID
Started by metmike - Aug. 9, 2021, 7:40 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/73407/
You wanted to re-visit COVID. How about some authentic science to go with your COVID DISinformation, Jean?
WELL, MIKE... IT'S OBVIOUS TO ME THAT YOU'VE MADE THIS INTO A PERSONAL "ATTACK THE DISSENTERS" DISCUSSION, SOOOOOO... YOU CAN PLAY PADDLE BALL, ALL YA WANT... I'LL WATCH YA.
HAVE FUNNNNNNNNN
So sorry that you're taking it personal Jean.
I use science, facts, evidence and honesty to represent this site honorably and always try to be respectful.
YOU brought it up...........I'm just responding to YOUR posts.
What this site will NEVER be is an echo chamber. Echo chambers are destroying our country right now.
In fact, MarketForum is an ANTI echo chamber that challenges false narratives, political rhetoric, DISinformation and junk science which is repeated at places where people go to hear it repeated by like minded individuals or sources.
I realize why echo chambers are so attractive and making money and drawing massive numbers, while driving the thoughts of America right now.
That's why this is an ANTI echo chamber.
I may be one person but know its our only hope for the US to keep from destroying itself from politically driven hate.
Try to keep this in mind, when coming here Jean.
It's for everybody and especially for me.
Use this to help make yourself a better person!
Started by metmike - Feb. 28, 2022, 7:24 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/82252/
I know that you've declared that nobody will change you. I'm totally NOT about changing you or anybody. I'm about providing the environment and tools for anybody that WANTS TO change, while being just as welcoming to people that DON'T WANT to change..........which is you.
Your choice what you want to get out of it or not get out of it.
If you want to just come here to express your political opinions........that's cool too but do expect DISinformation and anti science to be challenged and corrected.
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This will probably be a sad, politically driven, extremely divisive waste of tax payer money.
This will be a sad, politically driven, extremely divisive waste of tax payer money.
Though this too is politically driven, the crimes and cover ups protecting Hunter and the Bidens need to see the light of day............even if its unlikely that we can ever get the evidence to convict because it can't be pried out of the protectors hands or has been destroyed. The laptop was a total fluke/gift of truth/evidence from a person not trained and competent in covering their tracks. There would need to be more...........which probably isn't coming.
Previous threads:
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/89533/
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/83715/
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/83121/
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/71953/
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/60077/
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People like this below, scare me as much as the far right!