Captured brains
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Started by metmike - April 10, 2021, 12:32 a.m.

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Ex-KGB on Ideological Subversion: How the UN/IPCC hijacked science/brainwashed the world. Previously warmer. Polar bear hoax. Sept. 2019

By metmike - May 11, 2021, 2:58 p.m.
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We are living in a manufactured reality where the science fiction of the fake realities are the sometimes the  ones effectively sold to us as the reality, using the powerful tools of technology to capture minds. 

Both political sides do it.

Sometimes just one side will be the main deceiver and the other side will fight back with authentic facts but both sides resort to  vicious, personal attacks featuring a growing hatred for the other side and widening differences with a totally tribal environment. 

Each side has its well defined tenets for their belief system that completely contrast with the other sides tenets. If you are a liberal, you MUST fall in line with all the tenets and vigorously reject everything from the other side.

Both sides are made up of tens of millions(and growing) zealots who 

If you are on the right, you reject everything from the left.

It's a winner takes all, ends justifies the means and no middle ground mentality, with our politicians leading by example and notable MSM sources, often lining up completely with one side or the other. 

Throw this dysfunctional frame of mind into the environment of social media, where people are just words on a screen and it exacerbates the extremes of disrespect, hatred, intolerance....resulting in subhuman behavior to each other.

And the social media thrives on this because it invigorates people with negative emotions and amplifies traffic. Peaceful, kind and  trying to make the world a better place reads are boring compared to getting into a volatile confrontation with some dumb  a-hole that is wrong about something and you need to teach them a verbal lesson with equally fiery words to fight back. 

When YOU do it........its always justified..........because YOUR side is always right.

The politicians and MSM and other sources that you go to get the one sided news prove it to you every time you go there for your false narrative support fix.

The other side gets their news fix and its game on.

Many people choose sites with birds of a feather that are just echo chambers bouncing the same thoughts around inside of closed minds but others that have both sides can turn into a free for all and traffic spikes higher... this increases ratings and circulation for sources selling themselves with advertisements.

I was a main weather anchor for an ABC affiliate(WEHT-TV) from 1982-1993. We live or die by the ratings. You're NOT there to make them better citizens, though I think most tv station anchors sincerely have this objective. 

On social media, it doesn't exist to make the world a better place. As it turns out, many of the sources and interactions are successful(in accomplishing their high traffic goals) because they apply tactics that make the world A WORSE PLACE..intentionally for their gain/profits.

It's like hell for the human beings fighting each other but heaven for those that benefit with profits and power. 

The saddest part about this behavior is that the ones doing much of the fighting are the targets being used. They think that they are standing up for a just cause or ideology but the reality, is often what they think they know  and are basing their position  very flawed and its mostly propaganda and they are having their intelligence and integrity stolen and are violating their own ethical standards in order  to fight for a manufactured position based on a fake reality to benefit powerful players using them as pawns. 

By metmike - June 8, 2021, 12:58 p.m.
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Here is where to get the authentic realities about weather and climate.......the ones based on authentic facts, not from computer simulations of the fake atmosphere using subjective math, a speculative theory, computer models . With high end almost impossible solutions sold as being plausible to even likely and exaggerations of every weather event that more often than not, occurred previously but THIS TIME was from human caused climate change.

By metmike - Sept. 19, 2021, 2:03 p.m.
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The fake climate crisis and Climate Accord are actually all about this:

The Global Challenge for Government Transparency: The Sustainable Development Goals (SDG) 2030 Agenda


In 2015, 195 nations agreed with the United Nations that they can change the world for the better.

For the record, I strongly support the actual UN  agenda, defined with their 17 altruistic goals above!!

However, they are being anything but transparent..........hijacking climate science and rewriting climate history and faking a climate crisis is the complete opposite of being transparent...........even if it's for a wonderful cause.

And it's never right to steal people's intelligence about science by feeding them propaganda and dumbing them down with an "ends justifies the means mentality".

 It just so happens that the field of science that they've stolen is my profession so it's personal too.

Regardless, outside of making people stupid about weather/climate, at least its for a good cause that I would have agreed with, if they would have just been upfront and honest!

Why weren't they honest?

Under what scenario will people in rich countries give up the most to help poor people?

1. Because it's the right thing to do by choice and they have more than they need? OR..

2. They MUST do this to save the planet for everybody, including their own children. 

By cfdr - Sept. 20, 2021, 2:20 p.m.
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The chickens seem to be finally coming home to roost.

By mcfarm - Sept. 20, 2021, 2:39 p.m.
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seems the screw is turning. Has anyone noticed how Bill Marr is suddenly all soft and huggy when it comes to more conservative ideas v how he for years crushed most anything leaning right...almost like the libs are now coming for him with their cancel culture and he got the message.

By metmike - Sept. 20, 2021, 3:51 p.m.
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Great point on prices.

The stark reality is that we need fossil fuels and we wouldn’t have most of the wonderful technologies without them.

There isn’t anything that can cheaply or reliably replace them.

The real green energy is fossil fuels. The planet is massively greening up, not in spite of but because of increasing beneficial  CO2 and the best weather and climate in 1,000 years....the last time it was this warm.

By metmike - Sept. 30, 2021, 1:55 p.m.
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                Started by metmike - June 5, 2021, 11:08 a.m.    

By mcfarm - Oct. 1, 2021, 7:16 a.m.
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one of the world's largest captured brains was full display during a Hugh Hewitt interview with non other than The St Anthony Fauci. He came down from on high to dare mingle with the common folk for a bit. When presented scientific data that showed both he and Biden are one of the reason that vaxx rates are low and asked a simple question.....Will you resign if shown that you are an impediment to vaxx rates. Well just  minute Hugh, before the last part of the question was asked the great and noble Fauci had already said no twice. But you are a scientist who goes by the data again Hewitt asked. I simply do not believe the data says Fauci. Well where have we heard that before??? You do realize the black community is only 28% vaxxed right?

By metmike - Oct. 1, 2021, 11:57 a.m.
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I can tell that you are getting your information from far right FOX because I've been listening to them tell huge lies recently.

This was one reason that I watched CNN when Trump was president.........I wanted to get it straight from the horses mouth .............what the latest lies/false narratives were  related to Trump.

"You do realize the black community is only 28% vaxxed right?"

FOX blatantly lied to you about that by cherry picking like Gunter does.  Let me prove it to you right now.

 The rates for blacks getting vaccinated from all 50 states is from 28% in SD to 87% in OR. On average the rates are almost 10% lower for blacks but the lowest rate for all the states is 28%.............SD and it's in a state with a black population of just 2%, compared to the US where blacks are 14%.

This is another example of the blatant dishonesty being displayed by the far right, in this case, by far the biggest cult high priest of them all, FOX news. 

Taking the state with the lowest vaccination rates for blacks(28%) , where only 2% of the population is black and tricking people into thinking that represents the rate for the entire country!

mcfarm, that would be like Evansville getting 2 inches of rain from an isolated shower and me telling everybody here  that the entire Cornbelt got 2 inches of rain.

That's what cherry picking is by definition. You find an anomaly/outlier in the data that shows something that you want to show........and disingenuously use it to mislead people into believing that it represents objective data as a metric reflecting accuracy for that entire realm.

I have the actual data from  indisputably reliable sources  below to prove conclusively that FOX lied to you by cherry picking. This is what has been the main feature of most of Gunter's COVID posts recently:

Percent of Total Population that has Received a COVID-19 Vaccine by Race/Ethnicity,%22sort%22:%22asc%22%7D

African Americans in the US

14.2% of the total U.S. population (2020)


South Dakota

Let me ask you mcfarm, when FOX stated that only 28% of blacks have been vaccinated, how many did what I just did above to fact check them?

How many just believed them?

Why did I fact check them, instead of believing them?

2 reasons.

1. I'm extremely familiar with COVID and COVID vaccinations data/facts and when this was stated, my first thought was......"what the heck! that makes no sense, I'd better check on that!"

2. It's about COVID/the vaccine and it came from FOX. They have been blatantly lying about those topics every evening that I tuned in last month. I'm just telling you an objective fact.  I totally understand why people think what they do. Very bad, lying sources using DISinformation for their political agenda and self serving objectives. 

By metmike - Oct. 1, 2021, 12:22 p.m.
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On the St. Fauci, Fauci Derangement Syndrome. 

FOX is even worse with FDS,  than the TDS, Trump Derangement Syndrome.

At least with TDS, there was often a kernel of truth, as they cherry picked and exaggerated. 

With the Fauci thing, they often will CONTRADICT the truth entirely.

Fauci did lie to us about several things but they decided to use that to take clear, indisputable science and data based information that he passes on to call it lies because it came from Fauci.

I have never once used Fauci as a source for my information. Every time his name comes up its to address your side going bonkers telling lies and making stuff up about vilify him when he is passing on the empirical data..............same data that I'm passing on. So his data and metmike's data line up which is why the far rights data and metmike's data(sources) are totally different.

All I can tell you is that metmike uses reliable/verified, objective and scientific sources for the data. If Fauci is stating the same things that I am.............good for him and I will believe him based entirely on that but NEVER use him as my source because THE DATA is my source, not the man.

Since you guys, by definition believe in the anti Fauci religion, that your highest priest, FOX news teaches/believes in........."that everything Fauci says is a lie"

metmike and FOX and conversely metmike and the far right  and people that believe this total hogwash totally disagree with most things about the vaccine and COVID.

Fauci is everything for your side.......whatever statements he makes........define what you MUST REJECT.

 Fauci is just another scientist with an opinion that just happens to agree with this scientist, metmike. 

I will suggest that your side, at least TRY TO, have the cahona's and courage and critical thinking and honesty to see what FOX and the far right are doing to totally capture your brains. 

What personal or political or self serving reason would metmike, an independent, objective scientist have in suggesting that to his friends?

I'm showing it to you with all the indisputable facts/truths, why continue to believe the lies?


By metmike - Oct. 1, 2021, 1:54 p.m.
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By metmike - Oct. 4, 2021, 4:47 p.m.
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Each side is doing it in different realms to their people and they fight endlessly with the other side that tries to pound in authentic science/facts.

The fights feature hatred and personal attacks that escalate and divide into 2 completely opposite, unbudging, intolerant sides ............while the social media sites lap up the traffic.

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By mcfarm - Oct. 5, 2021, 7:44 a.m.
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Sorry Fauci is not getting off that easy in my world MM. He made the mess and he can either fess up or not. And so far he has chosen to lie as you said...several times...make crap up out of whole cloth, change his story by the week, deny scientific fact, all for what purpose? Yes to keep his name in the headlines, to appear on every front cover, to gallivant with the rich and famous, to be one of the biggest hypocrites in the country since the aids epidemic, to remain the fed gov highest paid employee. Hell just the appearance of his involvement in the Wuhon  clinic would of been enough to fire him immediately. No. I am sorry that this has little to do with the media. They did not control one thing Fauci did to himself. This guy did exactly what many feared months ago when the feds made this legendry request...."Just giver us 15 days to slow the curve"...and many feared the feds would muck it up so bad that they would make the cure worse than the disease. Well they have so thoroughly politcized this mess many Americans do  not believe much out of them anymore for damn good reason. Not the least of which that man Fauci just repeated yesterday that million coming across our boarder is n ot a factor in the covid numbers. Be gone Dr Fauci and the sooner the better.

By metmike - Oct. 5, 2021, 12:49 p.m.
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Thanks mcfarm,

I totally understand where you are coming from. 

I watched FOX again last night and just like the last time that I watched, Tucker focused much of his show bashing Fauci over some of the most stupid, non scientific things ever and continued the false rhetoric of totally manufactured fake realities of the "Fauci religion" that includes all this paraphernalia that doesn't exist(he completely conjured up). I'm sure you know it well by now.

This actually is well beyond the Trump Derangement syndrome that at least was often based on some realities and facts. They distorted and exaggerated those facts but at least there was a grain of truth much of the time with TDS.

With FDS, what Tucker spent much of his time on was actually the complete opposite of the truth and the total opposite of authentic science. I thought TDS could not be exceeded for the intensity of hatred and DISinformation but here, just a year later Tucker has easily topped it by almost an order of magnitude on the fraudulence scale.

There are performances based purely on science fiction that have much more truth to them than Tuckers lies about Fauci last night.

Don't worry about about sharing this sincere opinion here mcfarm, that's not why I suspended Gunter for. I get this.

Gunter had turned(abused)  MarketForum into his own personal anti COVID vaccine propaganda tool with almost 250  neurotic, obsessive anti COVID vaccine posts this year, mostly NOT rooted in authentic, objective science and many of them using the complete opposite of that.


I only asked him to use science and credible sources if he wanted to continue on that path and he immediately responded by doing the 100% opposite with an "in your face" display of him telling us that he will do what he wants to do here.

We still allow everybody to voice every opinion on everything like before. No changes........this was an entirely self inflicted penality that Gunter had been warned about for a couple of months now(with a couple of private emails back in August).

Like I did during the Trump administration for cliff and others who came here only to bash Trump(and I never banned them for just that).

I will create a Fauci bashing thread and would appreciate it if you could use that thread for this topic.........and do it with no limits. 

                Fauci bashing thread            

                            Started by metmike - Oct. 5, 2021, 12:54 p.m.    

By metmike - June 12, 2022, 6:03 a.m.
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The hearings on Trumps crimes that have featured Fox censoring the hearings and replacing them with Fox’s manufactured propaganda has demonstrated the idea defining this thread in a way that surpasses all other examples.

It features vehemently, long lived anti censorship posters, actually defending Fox’s censorship as ‘good business’.

70% of republicans falsely still think that Trump won!!

By metmike - Jan. 25, 2023, 1:01 p.m.
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By mcfarm - Jan. 25, 2023, 6:44 p.m.
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speaking of captured brains, Veritas is promising to blow things up tonite with the release of various Pfizer files....maybe Fauci could be made to look worse but don't know how, I guess more of him and WHO collusion with big pharma

By metmike - Jan. 25, 2023, 7:59 p.m.
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Thanks mcfarm,

While Veritas might have the right idea in some cases, they are often more dishonest than the groups they investigate, as they use entrapment, deception and chicanery to set up entities that are ALWAYS on the opposite political isle, never far right groups. 

This tells us how biased they are.

They aren't objective investigators, they are politically motivated and target entities they disagree with.

An entity like that can actually sometimes uncover corruption!

However, it's like the "Boy that cried wolf".......only "the Veritas/James O'Keefe that cried far left corruption"

When they do expose REAL looks exactly like all the stuff from them that was FAKE corruption.

And they have exaggerated and mischaracterized so many times in the past, with a well known reputation that you have mainly 2 groups of people with regards to viewing their stuff.

1. People that believe EVERYTHING they show because they want to believe it and because it always supports the right, no matter what every time.

2. The rest of the people, including those without a strong political affiliation that have seen their work before.

Veritas is a wonderful example of how to effectively capture minds of people by just showing them things that they want to believe they don't fact check or use critical thinking to question it. 

This guy and his quote below have been getting lots of time here recently!

 Thomas Sowell quote: When you want to help people, you tell them the...

By mcfarm - Jan. 27, 2023, 7:40 a.m.
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Veritas seems to put microphones in front of bad guys and et them hang their selves. MM, You have a problem with that? Seems they got that guy last nite on a good nite. He gave away the keys to Pfizer and then toped that by going mental right on screen. Kind of puts that entire Wuhon mess right back where it belongs, front page.

By metmike - Feb. 6, 2023, 11:28 a.m.
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How Much Time Does the Average Person Spend on Social Media? (2012–2022)

Chart of the average time spent on social media

There are positive things and places to learn alot on social media but

the question is.........Is this a productive use of time compared to what you/people did before using social media?

Is it COUNTERproductive?

I created my personal answer to that question here to help justify spending so much time at offset the amount of time getting caught up in the negativity of the mindset of many discussions, which admittedly happens to me more than it should.

Use this to help makeyourself a betterperson!