It’s a glimpse of Trump’s next attempt to seize power.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/09/comey-indictment/684377/
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It's true that Comey DID lie under oath and I don't know of another person that was more deserving of being held accountable for it.
However, there were numerous opportunities to do that previously that made much more sense from a rational/legal and just point of view and the justice department REJECTED them every time.
To suddenly do it now, clearly based on a president wanting retribution is actually President Trump creating a much, MUCH worse infraction that greatly exceeds the one that he wants Comey held accountable for.
I predict that this will be thrown out because it's crystal clearly based on 1 man, the president abusing his power to control the criminal justice system to target a person out of vengeance.
Trump, typical of him in calling the shots, fired the prosecutor that would not go after Comey and hired an inexperienced prosecutor that pledged her allegiance to him and will do it for Trump.
That was bad enough but then Trump's big mouth on Truth Social made it crystal clear why he did it by expressing his personal hatred for Comey.
So Donald Trump, like he often does with his deranged/pathological thinking, that dwells on self serving and EMOTIONAL objectives that completely lose sight of common sense and the ability to project with good judgment a smart strategy that thinks ahead...........shot his mouth off on Truth Social to exploit this to feed his deranged ego and his words and actions will be used by Comey's defense to get this thrown out.
This is clearly an abuse of the powers of a president, weaponizing the criminal justice system to get vengeance against a person that harmed him in the past.
However, the hilarious irony of this is the crime that Trump wants Comey to be held accountable for..........LYING!
The world's biggest liar, wants to abuse his power to hold an enemy accountable for..................telling a lie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_or_misleading_statements_by_Donald_Trump
During and between his terms as President of the United States, Donald Trump has made tens of thousands of false or misleading claims. Fact-checkers at The Washington Post documented 30,573 false or misleading claims during his first presidential term, an average of 21 per day.[1][5][6][7] The Toronto Star tallied 5,276 false claims from January 2017 to June 2019, an average of six per day.[2] Commentators and fact-checkers have described Trump's lying as unprecedented in American politics,[13] and the consistency of falsehoods as a distinctive part of his business and political identities.[14] Scholarly analysis of Trump's X posts found significant evidence of an intent to deceive.[15]
Comey was indicted on federal charges of lying to Congress and obstructing a congressional proceeding
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-answers-whether-comey-indictment-about-justice-revenge
"The only problem is for him he didn't think he'd be caught and he got caught," Trump said, emphasizing that Comey could have hedged or said he didn’t remember, but instead gave a very specific response.
"It's about justice. He lied. He lied a lot," Trump said.
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And the consequence for President Trump's record setting lying?
Being elected to a 2nd term as president!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_or_misleading_statements_by_Donald_Trump
During and between his terms as President of the United States, Donald Trump has made tens of thousands of false or misleading claims. Fact-checkers at The Washington Post documented 30,573 false or misleading claims during his first presidential term, an average of 21 per day.[1][5][6][7] The Toronto Star tallied 5,276 false claims from January 2017 to June 2019, an average of six per day.[2] Commentators and fact-checkers have described Trump's lying as unprecedented in American politics,[13] and the consistency of falsehoods as a distinctive part of his business and political identities.[14] Scholarly analysis of Trump's X posts found significant evidence of an intent to deceive.[15]
What President Trump is incapable of appreciating is that "The Swamp" and "Deep State" going after him is what got him elected again! It's true, they DID go after him in a big way using corruption and power to try to crush him. Americans that voted for him in 2024 saw this.
He portrayed himself as the victim.
He created a very effective persona which USED their attempts to decimate him which helped elect him to a 2nd term.
More Mueller corruption!
Started by metmike - Sept. 11, 2020, 6:44 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/59031/
FISA report: DOJ watchdog releases findings on Russia probe surveillance Started by metmike - Dec. 9, 2019, 1:12 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/44076/
IG testimony today
Started by wglassfo - Dec. 11, 2019, 5:09 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/44129/
Alan Dershowitz: Stone indictment follows concerning Mueller pattern
Re: Re: Pardon for Michael Flynn
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/61735/#61805
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/60589/#60599
Reviewing Muellers corruption with facts:
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/55925/#55961
They got away with this one too:
June 2016: Loretta Lynch-Bill Clinton meeting.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/24146/#24224
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By metmike - June 1, 2022, 5:42 p.m.
Previous threads:
Hillary called on carpet ....... again
Started by mcfarm - May 7, 2022, 7:45 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/84146/
John Durham Grand Jury Indicts Lawyer Whose Firm Represented Democrats in 2016
12 responses |
Started by metmike - Sept. 16, 2021, 8:37 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/75018/
Trump civil fraud trial-nonsense
Started by metmike - Nov. 12, 2023, 2:43 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/100509/
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Get Trump-Hush Money Hullabaloo
Started by metmike - April 17, 2024, 4:57 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/103255/
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Trump rape case
Started by metmike - May 3, 2023, 9:33 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/94926/
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Here's the craziest thing about it.
Trump won in 2024 and is now the president, in part thanks to the ones that he is now seeking vengeance against for their dirty tactics to try to beat him down....WHICH BACKFIRED ON THEM!
Trump winning and them losing should be the massive reward for him and massive loss/penalty to them.
Only a petty, hateful, pathologically thinking narcissist, blatantly abusing their power as the most powerful person in the world would instead, go after the losers this way.
It would have been the same thing for going after Hillary Clinton after she lost in 2016. "lock her up" "lock her up"
What's the point? Her loss was a 100 times worse penalty to any penalty that she might have received for mishandling emails.
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For our MAGA readers: This seeking vengeance against your enemies mentality is the opposite of what Erika Kirk just demonstrated!!!!
https://www.ncregister.com/commentaries/erika-kirk-s-witness-of-forgiveness
EDITORIAL: The grief-stricken widow’s words offer a turning point for all of us.
The Editors
Rarely has the truth that forgiveness constitutes the core of Christian faith been communicated more powerfully and more publicly than it was on Sept. 21, immediately after Erika Kirk cast her tear-streaked eyes briefly heavenward to gather strength for what she was about to say.
“On the cross, Our Savior said, ‘Father, forgive them, for they not know [sic] what they do,’” Erika said, speaking directly about the killer of her husband, Charlie, during his memorial service in Glendale, Arizona. “That young man, I forgive him.”
Do we want to follow the example of Erika Kirk, forgiving our enemies even when it requires courage that seems humanly impossible?
Or will we instead, support the actions of Donald Trump, who seeks vengeance against anybody in his political past that he feels caused him harm at that time?
Hate(and love)
Started by metmike - Oct. 17, 2023, 4:15 p.m.
https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/trump-james-comey-indictment-political-martyr-rcna233902
On Thursday, a grand jury in the Eastern District of Virginia indicted the former FBI directoron two counts: making a false statement to Congress and obstruction of a congressional proceeding. The indictment came just days after the president publicly asked his attorney general, Pam Bondi, to prosecute his political enemies, including Comey.
Scarborough said Trump should know better, given that during the 2024 presidential campaign his criminal charges helped rally his Republican base.
“Just go back to the 2024 campaign and look how the Republican Party was ready to move on to a certain Florida governor,” Scarborough said, referring to Gov. Ron DeSantis. “And then the indictments started coming down against Donald Trump, and that brought the Republican Party together behind him, and eventually led him to be elected the next president of the United States.”
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EXACTLY!
This comes right on the heels of Donald Trump making Jimmy Kimmel a hero and American patriot standing for the First Amendment and Free Speech. ........while massively boosting his ratings!
You ain't seen nothin yet! Just wait to see how people react at the polls in November 2026!!!
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/26/politics/trump-other-prosecutions-comey
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The loser in these cases is Donald Trump, his unqualified minions appointed to key positions and the Republican party.
The price will be paid in November 2026.
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https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/27/politics/indictment-comey-trump-difference
Former FBI Director James Comey was indicted Thursday. The news came just days after President Donald Trump forced out a US attorney who declined to bring such charges, publicly pushed for prosecutions of Comey and other political foes, and installed a loyalist who quickly gave him what he wanted.
It’s a remarkable breach of Justice Department norms that say a president isn’t supposed to involve themselves in prosecutions – particularly those in which they have a political interest.
Whatever one thinks of the decisions to indict a then-former president, this is a major escalation in Trump’s ongoing politicization of the justice system and broader weaponization of the government.
In Trump’s case, he publicly stated that he wanted the prosecution of Comey, whom he’s said was guilty of crimes, and he took actions to make that a reality – first by forcing out a US attorney who had concerns about the evidence for some of the charges he was being pressured to bring against Trump’s enemies (notably those related to New York Attorney General Letitia James.)
“Yeah, I want him out, yeah,” Trump said last Friday, shortly before US Attorney Erik Siebert resigned.
Trump followed that up the next day by naming Comey and others he’s accused of crimes and urging Attorney General Pam Bondi to act faster: “We can’t delay any longer, it’s killing our reputation and credibility.”
And crucially, it looks like Trump’s pressure made it happen; the statute of limitations on Comey’s alleged perjury was set to expire on Tuesday.
And the Democratic president did not repeatedly push for the prosecutions of his enemies in public, as Trump has. He didn’t celebrate the charges against Trump, as Trump did after Comey’s indictment. And crucially, Biden certainly didn’t force out a prosecutor who had reservations about some of the charges he was being pressed to bring and replace him with someone who would quickly do his bidding.
On the January 6, 2021, case, a historic seven Republican senators voted at his impeachment trial to convict Trump of inciting the insurrection. Others suggested Trump was culpable but voted to acquit him on a technicality because he was no longer president. (Then-Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell even indicated the issue was better handled in criminal court.)
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metmike: One reason that this will be thrown out is because of Trump's blatant interference. In more sane times, the MUCH, MUCH bigger infraction of a president's crystal clear interference would get that president impeached. However, with both houses having a majority Rs that have capitulated to Trump, on their Constitutional duty to the American people for representing an independent source(along with the judicial body) to balance power in our government. The US is currently practicing a hybrid AUTHORITARIAN form of government under Donald Trump and not a democracy with an equal balance of powers split between the president, Congress and the judicial system as written in the Constitution.
99% chance that when they regain the majority in November 2026, one of the first things the Ds will do is IMPEACH PRESIDENT TRUMP and the American people (outside of MAGA) will be screaming "GOOD RIDDANCE, IT'S ABOUT TIME!!! In fact, the ability to do that is what will be a huge motivator for voters in this upcoming election!!!
House of Representatives: Impeachment
The first step is for the House of Representatives to vote on "articles of impeachment," which are the formal charges against the president. A simple majority of the House members who are present and voting is needed to approve any of the articles.
If a simple majority vote is reached, the president is officially "impeached," which is similar to a grand jury indictment in a criminal case. It does not, however, remove the president from office.
Senate: Removal
The second step is a trial held in the Senate. To remove the president from office, the Senate must convict them with a two-thirds majority vote of the senators who are present.
It seems extremely unlikely that enough Rs in the Senate will vote for impeachment to remove President Trump from office, despite there being an order of magnitude more than enough evidence to do so.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism
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If not for the Rs controlling both houses, this would be crystal clear grounds to impeach President Trump!
When the justice department doesn't do what a president demands, the president can't just fire that person(people) and replace them with puppets that swear allegiance to the president's wishes. ........or at least up until it became part of President Trump's strategy to manipulate the system TO SERVE HIM in 2025 with his abuse of power it wasn't done.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/judge-james-comey-indictment-confusion-trump/
TRUMP'S BIG MOUTH
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Yep!
James, a Democrat, has clashed with President Donald Trump after she brought civil charges against him in New York.
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No question that James weaponized the justice system to target Trump as I showed/explained clearly in the thread below, less than 2 years ago.
However, the president of the United States ordering the justice department to do investigations of every aspect of the lives of his hated opponents is not only against the law(and will result in this and Comey's case getting thrown out, even if she did commit crimes) but his open display of hatred and vengeance makes Trump look MUCH WORSE than the people that he wants to punish for revenge. MUCH worse!!!
This article was written almost 5 months ago.
The president can’t order that political opponents be punished but he can theoretically order that they be investigated, although such actions have long been considered beyond the pale of presidential action. In doing so, President Trump has destroyed the long-established independence of the Department of Justice (DOJ) and its freedom from political influence. Furthermore, by initiating sweeping investigations against his political opponents, Trump is taking upon himself a power that the founders explicitly rebelled against in 1776. As Joseph diGenova—President Trump’s former lawyer and a former U.S. attorney—stated, “The power to investigate and prosecute is the power to destroy.”
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Trump civil fraud trial-nonsense
35 responses |
Started by metmike - Nov. 12, 2023, 2:43 a.m.