This one deserves it's own title. It's going to be around for awhile.
Re: will clapper. comey, brennan finally get theirs?
By WxFollower - July 11, 2025, 10:26 a.m.
2. Can you explain why Bondi and Trump are suddenly poopooing the Jeffrey Epstein files release after earlier saying they would be released ASAP? Are they now hiding something? Doesn’t that seem weird/inconsistent?
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An irate attorney general is said to have confronted the deputy director of the F.B.I. at a tense White House meeting earlier in the week
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/11/us/politics/jeffrey-epstein-pam-bondi-dan-bongino-clash.html
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EPSTEIN
Started by 12345 - June 4, 2023, 4:31 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/95882/
THIS WOMAN REALLY PUTS HER LIFE ON THE LINE!!
Started by 12345 - May 5, 2023, 6:49 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/94955/
Jeffrey Epstein's former pilot testifies
Started by metmike - Dec. 1, 2021, 12:42 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/78526/
Epstein corruption
38 responses |
Started by wglassfo - Aug. 17, 2019, 11:47 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/37051/
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I spent numerous hours investigating this with evidence in that last thread that leave me convinced that this could not have been a suicide.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/37051/#37156
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/37051/#37890
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/37051/#45629
The medical evidence of a very forceful break to his neck does NOT match up with how he supposedly committed suicide(with a bed sheet and leaning forward). Just coincidentally, the camera's going to his ward/cell all just happened to malfunction that night and/or accidentally the video was not saved.
Initially, the prison tried to substitute the video from another part of the prison to try to trick investigators into believing that nobody unauthorized entered Epstein's cell.
People only doctor evidence when they have something to hide!!!!!!!
He WAS killed based on some impossible to explain, very compelling evidence and critical thinking.
I don't care who says otherwise. That evidence can't be explained.
We can all speculate on why and why they still won't release everything but just have to assume that, like with many diabolical acts being covered up by the rich and powerful, we will NEVER know.
Again, I don't buy into conspiracy theories...........I BUST THEM.
When authentic facts and evidence strongly support something, it's NOT a conspiracy theory.
Re: Re: Re: Re: will clapper. comey, brennan finally get theirs?
By mcfarm - July 11, 2025, 8:28 p.m.
no Larry I have little info on the Epstein deal. I thought by now lots of info would of been released if it was possible without infringing on rules and rights. Seems a few got ahead of the pace of the case and over hyped to me but I am a lowly dirt farmer from middle America.
will clapper. comey, brennan finally get theirs?
By metmike - July 12, 2025, 3:56 p.m.
I forgot to add this previous thread, which probably explains why Trump doesn't want the Epstein files released.
I'm not suggesting that because President Trump flew aboard Epstein's private plane that anything nefarious took place, there is ZERO evidence to support that but its likely that SOME of the celebrities WERE participating in that part of his business.
However, nobody knows who did what with Epstein(the not released files might shed light into that) and when you don't know anything.............its the perfect environment for SPECULATION.
If Trump was innocent of any wrongdoing but DID fly with Epstein, his adversaries will pounce on that fact to SPECULATE and
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/78526/
Jeffrey Epstein
Started by metmike - Dec. 1, 2021, 12:42 a.m.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/30/us/ghislaine-maxwell-pilot/index.html
(CNN)Jeffrey Epstein's former pilot testified in Ghislaine Maxwell's sex trafficking trial Tuesday that a who's who of powerful men, including former Presidents Bill Clinton and Donald Trump, flew aboard Epstein's private plane.
The pilot, Larry Visoski, said he would typically be given notice if Clinton or high-profile passengers like him would be flying.
He recalled renowned violinist Itzhak Perlman flew to Michigan with Epstein for the Interlochen Center for the Arts summer camp. He said he remembered Prince Andrew, Maine Sen. George Mitchell, Ohio Sen. John Glenn and actor Kevin Spacey on flights.
He also said he'd fly Epstein to Columbus, Ohio, where Epstein also had property, to see billionaire businessman Les Wexner. Epstein referred to Wexner as his client but Visoski said he believed them to be friends as well.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/29/us/ghislaine-maxwell-trial-starts/index.html
Re: Re: will clapper. comey, brennan finally get theirs?
By mcfarm - July 15, 2025, 11:52 a.m.
looks like all the hopes of the tds may implode. Maxwell rumors are she will tell all including where, when, who and how, Finally some answers from someone that should know
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Re: Re: Re: will clapper. comey, brennan finally get theirs?
By metmike - July 15, 2025, 12:10 p.m.
Thanks, mcfarm for something I didn't know!
The former Jeffrey Epstein associate is currently serving a 20-year sentence
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1. If this isn't a ploy to make a deal with prosecutors to get out of prison early, then the earth is being destroyed by climate change
Surely this lady DOES know things but she's NOT a very reliable/objective source because of the self serving motivation driving this offer. Its uncertain why she didn't offer that information previously but the current fanfare, certainly is the main factor driving this offer that would very likely include her getting some of her sentence going away.
2. She would have no insider knowledge about who killed Jeffrey Epstein.
3. jeffrey Epstein's pilot already testified under oath who was on Epstein's plane when he flew Epstein's friends around. Not as good as a "clients" lists but we know who was on the plane and where they went. The pilot was a very credible source.
4. We can only speculate but since Donald Trump was on that place for sure, this is why he doesn't want the information released. His many adversaries could use it against him. I don't think that Trump was on the clients list but have no idea and my "don't think" is based on ZERO evidence and a wild guess, giving Trump the benefit of the doubt. However, Trump's resistance to releasing the information makes me even less confident in that GUESS.
Re: Re: Re: will clapper. comey, brennan finally get theirs?
By metmike - July 16, 2025, 8:18 p.m.
More evidence that President Trump is mentally ill AND GETTING WORSE!!!
We don’t know what’s in the Jeffrey Epstein files, but we now know it’s so bad for President Donald Trump that he’ll turn on his rabidly loyal MAGA base, mocking them as “stupid” and “weaklings,” to keep it hidden.
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President Trump lashed out Wednesday at “weaklings” and “past supporters” in his base who he said were buying in to the “Jeffrey Epstein Hoax,” raging that he doesn’t even “want their support anymore.”
“Unlike Republicans, they [Democrats] stick together like glue. Their new SCAM is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax, and my PAST supporters have bought into this ‘bulls—,’ hook, line, and sinker,” Trump wrote on Truth Social.
“Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats[‘] work, don’t even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support anymore! Thank you for your attention to this matter. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”
“They haven’t learned their lesson, and probably never will, even after being conned by the Lunatic Left for 8 long years,” Trump added on Truth Social Wednesday.
“I have had more success in 6 months than perhaps any President in our Country’s history, and all these people want to talk about, with strong prodding by the Fake News and the success starved Dems, is the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax.”
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We can all dream that enough Rs would get the gonads to join with Ds to IMPEACH this mentally ill and dangerous president.
However, things can and may get worse. He's only been in office for 6 months. His approval ratings are going to drop even more after this. There are half a dozen legit reasons to impeach Donald Trump. This isn't one of them.
By metmike - July 16, 2025, 8:27 p.m.
Fox news coverage on this?
"Bernie Sanders is a communist"
"Barrack Obama is an idiot about men"
"Hunter Biden, bla bla bla"
"Joe Biden, bla bla bla"
will clapper. comey, brennan finally get theirs?
By metmike - July 16, 2025, 8:39 p.m.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-autopsy-a-closer-look-60-minutes-2020-01-05/
Among the injuries found on Epstein during the autopsy are contusions on both wrists, an abrasion on his left forearm, and deep muscle hemorrhaging in his left shoulder muscle. Photos 60 Minutes reviewed also show an injury to the back of his neck, a cut on his lip, and an injection mark in his arm
Dr. Baden said small burst capillaries, known as petechiae, found on Epstein's face, mouth, and eyes are often an indication of strangulation. But it was injuries to Epstein's neck that make Dr. Baden call into question the official ruling of suicide.
Autopsy photos show fractures of the left and right thyroid cartilage, which sits at the front of the neck, and the left hyoid bone, a u-shaped bone that sits under the jaw and acts as an anchor for the tongue.
"I have never seen three fractures like this in a suicidal hanging," Dr. Baden tells Alfonsi on the broadcast. He added: "Going over a thousand jail hangings, suicides in the New York City state prisons over the past 40–50 years, no one had three fractures."
But photos of the noose taken in as evidence and presumably thought to be responsible for killing Epstein show both ends of the noose folded and hemmed, not cut. Sources have told 60 Minutes that the guard who found Epstein cut him down before trying to revive him.
"It doesn't look like anybody ever took scissors to it," Alfonsi said. "So there is some question—is that the right noose?'
Federal prosecutors have charged the two guards who were on duty on the overnight shift the morning Epstein was found. Michael Thomas, who alone found Epstein's body, and Tova Noel face charges of making false records, conspiring to make false records, and conspiring to defraud the United States. Both have pleaded not guilty.
Her firing comes as Attorney General Pam Bondi faces intense criticism from some members of Trump’s base for the Justice Department’s decision not to release any more evidence in the government’s possession from Epstein’s sex trafficking investigation. Some right-wing internet personalities, like Laura Loomer, who have been critical of Bondi’s handling of the Epstein files had been calling for Maurene Comey’s firing.
A woman claims Trump raped her at a party in 1994 when she was just 13 years old.
Donald Trump is accused of having forcible sex with the plaintiff while attending a party at the NYC apartment of convicted billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, according to the complaint. The plaintiff also claims that Epstein raped her twice at two such parties.
Two witnesses provided affidavits filed by the plaintiff under the names "Joan Doe" and "Tiffany Doe" that back up the woman's story.
"Joan Doe" claims that the plaintiff told her about the assaults in 1994–95 shortly after they are alleged to have occurred
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https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-dropped-230770
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I'll give President Trump the benefit of the doubt on actual guilt here but show it because it explains his sensitivity on this topic. The investigation and report would likely have included this and Trump does NOT want it out, even if he's innocent because his adversaries will jump on hit. This is speculation by me.
There could be far more in the Epstein files that included Trump.
What we know for sure is that Trump is in there and he doesn't want the public to know about it.
White House has come under fire for not releasing documents related to late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/15/republicans-jeffrey-epstein-files-release
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5404619-republican-support-jeffrey-epstein-legislation/
https://www.newsweek.com/jeffrey-epstein-victims-attorney-talks-about-donald-trump-claims-1857298
Ok MM your tds is getting more of a paranoia. Day after day any article you can find trying to show Trump in any bad light. Well it took me all of 2 seconds to find this interview with Epsteins lawyer. He could not find one connection to Epstein and in fact goes on to defend Trump and his behavior. Now if anyone truly knows what went on with Epstein this guy surly would...not CNN, MSNBC or Whoopi for that matter. You are supposed to be the fact finder here not some rumor monger but when it comes to Trump an rumor lately is what you report.
Thanks much, mcfarm!
Your link confirms exactly my position and previous posts.
TDS???
This was my statement:
"I'll give President Trump the benefit of the doubt on actual guilt here but show it because it explains his sensitivity on this topic."
I'll let the facts and your post defending Trump that actually confirms the relationship between Epstein and Trump that is what I speculate Trump is so sensitive over speak for itself.
How about TAS?
Trump Adoration Syndrome!
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Actually, after reading your story, I'm LESS inclined to give President Trump the benefit of the doubt. Did you actually read the article? It might have taken you 2 minutes to find it but you forgot to take another 2 minutes to read the entire article!!
Trump lavished praise on Epstein in a 2002 interview with New York Magazine, which took place before the financier pleaded guilty as part of a 2008 plea deal to soliciting prostitution from a person under 18. Speaking to the publication he said: "I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy.
"He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it—Jeffrey enjoys his social life."
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mcfarm,
Would you like to see this information released?
I think Trump's justice department MIGHT end up releasing it but they will doctor it to extract any parts that have Trump in and then present it as everything. No way the authoritarian would ever allow objective facts to be released by his minions that show anything he doesn't approve of.
Thanks again for the article, mcfarm!
I've dialed that into my objective understanding of this situation and am now more suspicious of Trump because of his much closer relationship to Epstein than I knew about before.
well who knew about the 2008 crap in 2002. Nobody. Again the Epstein lawyer goes thru it all and paints a vastly different story including doubting remarks by trump way before any others were commenting. I do not think is any way harmed by libs trying to establish more crazy crap on Trump. As I have said right here on this site Trump does plenty of painful things all himself he needs little help from libs.