Trumpers Attempting to Destroy Democracy
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Started by joj - Sept. 12, 2022, 6:12 a.m.

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Trump backers flood election offices with requests as 2022 vote nears.

Supporters of former president Donald Trump have swamped local election offices across the nation in recent weeks with a coordinated campaign of requests for 2020 voting records, in some cases paralyzing preparations for the fall election season.

In nearly two dozen states and scores of counties, election officials are fielding what many describe as an unprecedented wave of public records requests in the final weeks of summer, one they say may be intended to hinder their work and weaken an already strained system. The avalanche of sometimes identically worded requests has forced some to dedicate days to the process of responding even as they scurry to finalize polling locations, mail out absentee ballots and prepare for early voting in October, officials said.

In Wisconsin, one recent request asks for 34 different types of documents. In North Carolina, hundreds of requests came in at state and local offices on one day alone. In Kentucky, officials don’t recognize the technical-sounding documents they’re being asked to produce — and when they seek clarification, the requesters say they don’t know, either.

The use of mass records requests by the former president’s supporters effectively weaponizes laws aimed at promoting principles of a democratic system — that the government should be transparent and accountable. Public records requests are a key feature of that system, used by regular citizens, journalists and others. In interviews, officials emphasized that they are trying to follow the law and fulfill the requests, but they also believe the system is being abused.

“When you are asking for every single document under the sun, it becomes difficult for us to do our job,” said Claire Woodall-Vogg, the executive director of the Milwaukee Election Commission.

Many administrators said they suspect that may be the point.

They believe that those organizing the effort are not out for information but rather are trying to cause chaos as their fall crunchtime approaches, making it more difficult to run smooth elections and giving critics new openings to attack the integrity of election administration in the United States. They point to the identical nature of the requests as well as the number of duplicates individual counties have received — each one of which they must respond to, by law.

“It’s the public’s right to transparency, and I understand that,” said Chuck Broerman, the Republican clerk of El Paso County, Colo., who has hired an additional employee for the 10-person elections division to handle public records requests. “But at the same time, it’s been reported to me that some of this has been done perhaps deliberately to break the system. And you have to ask yourself, why do they want to do that?”

The surge of inquiries reflects the latest example of the extraordinary pressure that election officials have faced since the 2020 election. Since then, state and local election administrators have dealt with the fallout from a concerted campaign by Trump and his backers to undermine confidence in U.S. elections, including a barrage of threats and personal attacks. Hundreds of officials have left their jobs as a result, administrators say.


joj - There is the notion out there that if/when Trump goes away then all will be well.  I think Trumpism is as much, if not more of a problem, than Trump himself.  They hate (don't trust) our institutions.

By mcfarm - Sept. 12, 2022, 7:08 a.m.
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In an odd way your title is somewhat correct. This coubtry is way too often described as a democracy. Conservatives want very much to save our republic. Its very difficult to reason with libs who only think of mob control. A republic has nothing to do with a mob control.

By metmike - Sept. 12, 2022, 12:52 p.m.
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Thanks extremely much  joj!

I agree with this dangerous mindset and it brings up a super mega profound element of the a topic relating exactly to points made in the thread on tribalism, yesterday.

There is a  well established technique to brainwash people/followers with information THEY WANT TO BELIEVE or are vulnerable to believing in today's world that features gatekeepers and clever, powerful entities/people knowing how to craft convincing reading/sounding narratives and DISinformation to use as propaganda to control the people from one side that will believe it when they read/hear it. NOT fact check, scrutinize or be skeptical since it lines up with their cognitive bias that tells them to believe it.

YOU noticed it in this thread on this topic because YOU are on the opposite side of  the targets for the information stream that's aimed at vulnerable people.

Please don't think that this has anything to do with intelligence. Some of the most cognitively biased people in the world are extraordinarily intelligent and educated. In fact, that often causes them to assume they are right because they are too smart to be tricked like this, which is exactly the mindset that causes them to be so vulnerable.

With regards to elections, it was caused by Trump because Trump lost and decided to apply the use of this technique, in cahoots with Fox and others on that side.

The Big Lie/Election night fraud

YOU noticed it with the COVID vaxx DISinformation campaign:

You completely failed to notice it with the very corrupt Mueller investigation.  You are locked into the assumption that Mueller has impeccable credentials and couldn't have done what he actually did because you were a target in that case.

Mueller's  bs

Your side bought into the Hunter Biden's laptop(and related stories) were  conspiracy theories and  your side was the target that time to.

Your side is totally missing it with the campaign to target white cops as racists in every encounter with a black man and at times, blatantantly abusing the race card......doing massive damage during  the 2020 riots to our country because of this. (supposedly justified and never condemned with the appropriate gusto by liberal sources).

The biggest one of all by an extremely wide margin is the completely fake climate crisis. Scientifically, meteorologically, biologically, climatologically, we are having a climate optimum for life on this greening planet with its booming biosphere. Similar temps as 1,000 years ago and several other times in the last 6,000 years. One side is claiming to be saving the planet with  solutions to a manufactured problem  that are actually destroying our efficient energy system using fossil fuels AND  destroying the environment to accomplish it. Their solutions are doing an order of magnitude more damage to the planet than what they claim is the problem.