MM, seems with your anti Trump posts you now starting to include all Trump supporters in a negative way. Maybe I missed it but it seems now many times when the vaccines are brought up you immediately decide its the right, the repubs, the Trump supporters who are not vaccinated and are conspiring against the shot. If this is how you feel you need to check the data. Seems the blue states, the blue cities, the minorities are the one lagging in vaccines....atleast in the charts I am seeing. I remember well Trump urging people to be vaccinated, I remember all the time and effort he spent getting these vaccines in record time. So if all this is true you ought to remind your self next time you start the blame game...if not my apologies. And oh yes I nearly forgot the illegal aliens most certainly are not vaccinated but given a free pass.
Thanks mcfarm,
As always, I'm an objective, independent, totally non political scientist that reports unbiased facts. The same one that repeatedly defended Trump when he was being attacked...........and you really liked it.
Since the facts have been going against your side recently, and you get your information from far right sites, you perceive me as having the bias.
It ain't me mcfarm. I haven't changed one iota. I calls em as I sees em. Your have just been backing the side with all the wrong facts recently.
On you perceiving the BLUE states being lagging on the vaccinations............I'm so glad that you brought that to our attention.... let the objective facts speak the truth.........and again, I would like to know the source of your "bad" information.
metmike: Almost all the top states are blue states and all the bottom states are all red states.
Here's an actual map from Mayo Clinic to make that even more clear.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/vaccine-tracker
That site would not allow me to copy it but compare the dark greens on their map, the states with the highest vaccinations rates.........to this map below that shows the red and blue states. The blue(democratic states are exactly where the highest vaccination rates are. The lowest vaccination rates are ALL red states. Data is data mcfarm and I would really like to know what source of yours is telling you the complete opposite:
With regards to Trump pushing for the vaccine to make it so quickly, yes absolutely he did and I've recognized him for that a dozen times.
That's what makes it so insanely ironic that the biggest push back on the authentic benefits of the COVID vaccine is so decidedly republican.
Note this thread that you started mcfarm........obviously from a far right source, which is where you go.
And I'm only RESPONDING to your questions and speculative/assertions mcfarm, with nothing but facts and hope that you will accept the 100% factually based answers.............that are not my OPINIONS.
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read it on the internet
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Started by mcfarm - July 18, 2021, 1:30 p.m.
wonder if its close to true...."they were 174 more covid vaccine deaths in the US last week than covid deaths
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/72388/
When the same metmike was exposing corruption from the left, using objective facts..........you loved it because you are from the right.
More Mueller corruption!
Started by metmike - Sept. 11, 2020, 6:44 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/59031/
FISA report: DOJ watchdog releases findings on Russia probe surveillance Started by metmike - Dec. 9, 2019, 1:12 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/44076/
IG testimony today
Started by wglassfo - Dec. 11, 2019, 5:09 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/44129/
June 2016: Loretta Lynch-Bill Clinton meeting.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/24146/#24224
metmike: By I am not a puppet or cheerleader for either party. I always welcome with open arms any criticisms or disagreements with me on anything and everything, just like this one. I can either prove my case with facts/science or consider adjusting my position if I don't have the facts. However, I almost never present a case here on anything until its been self vetted by applying the scientific method...............trying to prove myself wrong first and failing before gaining confidence that I'm right.
I've actually developed into an elite fact checker more than a moderator the last 3 years.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/73206/#73209
mcfarm,
The craziest thing about this is that I'm your friend and ally trying to assist you with the truth and science and the ones that are targeting you with the lies are NOT your true friends.
I can't imagine that you would consider people that lie to you for their political agenda TRUE friends.........tell you things that you want to hear to support their self serving, political agenda and act like your friend because you both have the same political ideology.
I am the complete opposite of that and you've known me for years and can't find one post where I did not tell the truth, with facts/science to always back it up.
I know that the truth matters to you mcfarm.
The question for you now is.........how much does the truth matter to you?
as I expected a very thorough response MM. You have given many things to put into perspective. I have long days alone most of the time and will dwell your answer. There some people who have been caught up in this mess the last few years and I think Lindell might of been one, He did not need the drama and I wish he could of stayed away from the crowd more and remained more independent. I might be way off base and He could also be as big a crook as the Biden's. Hope not.
Speaking of the Biden's being crooks. My opinion hasn't changed on that either:
Hunter back in the news
9 responses |
Started by metmike - July 3, 2021, 3:25 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/71953/
More smoking gun evidence on Bidens
78 responses | 1046 likes
Started by metmike - Oct. 14, 2020, 7:39 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/60077/
But I get the dilemma that people who strongly support their political party face on almost every issue.
They absolutely see the world thru the eyes of a republican or thru the eyes of a democrat. The party ideologies are usually well defined and the talking heads from each side often say alot of similar things but none of them will spend much time complimenting the opposite parties.
Instead, Biden and the Dems are portrayed as wrong about everything, by the republicans, just like the other side was convinced that Trump was wrong about everything.
So if you belong to one of those parties, your side targets you with everything they can spin up to convince you to support all of their agenda and reject everything from the other side.
All the commentators have strong, one sided opinions(it's what they do).
News reporting agencies like ABC, CBS or The Hill will do a decent job reporting objective news on most topics but the commentators that people flock to in order to hear/read opinions from people in their party that have a strong following are totally biased to one side.
This leaves the average republican or democrat having a view formed by very one side commentators who, all say very similar things about the 2 parties.
After awhile, it becomes assumed that what they are saying is true because all the other commentators for that party back them up.
How would a person not know that it was true if all they listen to is sources that tell them things that support their views.
All give you a wonderful example on how they are twisting things around using this.
Democrats are for huge, expanding government.
Republicans are for small government and allowing people to make all their own choices without government interference or mandating.
That is basically what is causing the huge problems and party differences regarding masking and vaccinations.
Many republicans feel its government over reach to make people get vaccinated. Choosing NOT to get vaccinated has been presented to republicans as expressing a freedom. They have been led to mistrust the government, mistrust the CDC, Fauci and Biden administration which are all pushing them hard to get vaccinated.........so they react by rejecting the vaccine.
So tonight on FOX, Tucker Carlson repeated the same wrong thing again, similar to what Gunter was convinced of earlier this week, that health care workers refusing to get vaccinated means that because they are in that profession, they are much more educated about the COVID vaccine, so they know something that the rest of us don't know...........which is the reason so many are refusing to get vaccinated.
If that's the case, then they sure are keeping the secret about COVID vaccines real well.
Even the 98%(up 2% from the article below) of the medical doctors, the one profession of all of them, with the REAL authorities on vaccines don't know what this secret is.
That's because there is no health care worker secret knowledge. They are not getting vaccinated for the exact same reasons that NON health care workers are not getting vaccinated.
They go to the same anti COVID vax sites as Non health care workers..........and they are no smarter.
https://www.aafp.org/journals/fpm/blogs/inpractice/entry/countering_vaccine_hesitancy.html
Medical doctors, however are the smartest faction of people about the COVID vaccine. Look at their actions.
Jun 11, 2021 — The American Medical Association says 96 percent of “practicing physicians” have been fully vaccinated for COVID-1
metmike: But if you watch FOX or go to a right wing site, you are getting misled by the actions of health care workers.
https://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1012502&mid=9152307#M9152307
does this chart show the same as yours?
It shows cumulative data MOSTLY FROM BEFORE VACCINATIONS.
It's not data AFTER VACCINATIONS.
That data is completely the opposite.
