Important note added to start this thread:
We owe everything to our brave soldiers. They will do things that the rest of us won't or can't for our democracy. Putting their lives on the line to serve our country.
They should always be put on a pedestal and treated special, just for their willingness and commitments to serve our country in this manner.
Sadly, our politicians have USED them to serve the Military-Industrial-Political complex for numerous decades.
Donald Trump is not the first one to do it. However, he's the latest and worst. He is egregiously abusing our soldiers illegally to blatantly violate International Laws and the Constitution. Kill innocent people. Turn our allies against us. Create the worst global energy crisis in history. Fight a war that Americans are against. Cost tax payers more than $50 billion and counting. Result in inflation ramping up and gas prices +$1.50/gallon. Draw down our weapons reserve and make us less secure.
For an objective that is a complete lie!
Iran nuclear weapons false narrative(s)
Started by metmike - April 25, 2026, 9:07 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119788/
A common theme being employed by this administration, especially Pete Hegseth, the head of the renamed, Department of WAR is that people that speak out against this unjust war are unpatriotic because they are against our soldiers fighting in this unjustified, illegal war as opposed to Pete Hegseth and Donald Trump who send our brave, patriotic soldiers to fight in this unjustified war.
We are told that because Trump and Hegseth USE(abuse) the military, that means they are FOR the soldiers. And absurdly, this somehow equates to them being for those soldiers best interest and people that disagree are rooting against our soldiers and are anti patriotic and even "treasonous" to use Donald Trump's word.
I'll show you in this thread why it's the 180 degree, diametrically opposed polar opposite of that!!!
Previous most related threads:
Hegseth testimony 4-29-26
Started by metmike - April 29, 2026, 4:07 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119891/
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I will build on the AUTHENTIC facts at the 1st thread above that PROVED the main justification for this war.........that Iran was on the verge of having nuclear weapons that threatened it's neighbors, Europe and soon after that, the United States was and is completely false. There was no justification for the United States to attack. Unprovoked and against International Law using the most powerful military in the world.
This is clearly an unjustified war as well as a war that the majority of Americans strongly disapprove of and the vast, VAST majority of the people in the world STRONGLY disapprove of in the most profound manner.
We haven't been able to generate support from even 1 ally to join us. In fact our allies and the world speak out against us with regards to this war.
Allied Countries helping Trump
Started by metmike - March 18, 2026, 7:57 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/118814/
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Why wouldn't they be speaking out strongly against the United States for this war? Of course they would!!!!
Worst global energy crisis in history and getting even worse every day!
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119646/#119919
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How in tarnation are we even in a war like this that makes absolutely no sense on any level?????????
The specific, authentic fact based answer is here:
How Netanyahu used Donald Trump for his war
Started by metmike - April 10, 2026, 4:10 p.m.
Donald Trump, yesterday came out with one of his typical comments about this:
“Not a Quagmire”: Hegseth Defends Iran War in Fiery Congressional Clash
In addition, the cost from this war to tax payers is enormous, likely already over 50 billions dollars and counting.
Inflation is ticking higher thanks to fuel costs that are as much as $2/gallon high now compared to earlier this year.
The advertised price at the gas station by my gym last evening was $4.79/gallon which is $2 higher than it was in February!
All these negatives. One after another after another after another with ZERO benefits to people in this country and the world(other than Israel).
And who did Donald Trump send in to do HIS dirty work for HIS agenda?
He USED our brave, patriotic, loyal soldiers and the most powerful military in the world to do something extremely bad and extremely wrong.
He and Hegseth ordered them to kill people, many of them innocent children and women, destroy tens of thousands of buildings, some with architecturally historical significance, along with hospitals and schools/colleges. Collectively punish 90 million people in Iran. Violate International Laws and the Geneva Convention as well as the US Constitution. Act against the will of the people (betray) and our democracy. Greatly harm the planet/environment. Escalate political division and hate in our country and around the world.
And for a completely manufactured reason! Donald Trump did this for Donald Trump who is controlled by Bibi Netanyahu.
Unfortunately, Donald Trump controls the most powerful military in the world!
How is this being for our soldiers fighting this war???? Is that what they actually signed up for? These are not just robot soldiers that are not allowed to know what the entire world thinks of this completely unjustified, unprovoked, law breaking operation?
But it goes so much farther than that!
How many fathers and mothers in the military would chose being stuck in this unjustified quagmire over being at home with their wife, children and families? Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth are separating military families for their personal agenda.
How many parents want their sons and daughters to fight an unjustified war? To risk their lives fighting Donald Trump's war?
How many brave soldiers with A CONSCIENCE will be haunted for much of their lives by the fact that they killed so many innocent people without justification????
6-3-26: Added: How many soldiers know that the vast, VAST majority of people in the world view their actions as being really bad and wrong? Most Americans KNOW what they are doing is bad and WRONG and reject it strongly.
The men and women in our military WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING, while serving our country! That's exactly what they signed up for. At the very least, we owe it to them to use them TO DO THE RIGHT THING!
https://academic.oup.com/qjmed/article/117/3/163/7320020
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How can sending our brave soldiers to Iran possibly be FOR the men and women in our military?????
They are being used, similar to the way that Putin uses his soldiers with the main exception being that Donald Trump isn't getting them slaughtered like flies because even our morally bankrupt, bought and paid for (by the Military-Industrial-Political-Jewish complex) politicians enabling this know that would be completely unacceptable.
My position and many other PATRIOTIC Americans is to profoundly RESPECT our troops.
Treat them like human beings, not pawns/units to use for the political agenda of a psychopath and his minions that he appointed to serve him only.
Use our brave soldiers when using them is justified. Using them for the reasons they signed up for. NOT putting them in harm's way needlessly unless that's justified.
Respecting their emotional needs and their huge families.
Not treating them like killing and destroying robots to serve the president of the United States with his completely unjustified war in Iran and many other bombings around the world.
Trump's bombing countries illegally
Started by metmike - March 4, 2026, 8:45 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/118393/
Dear Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth: Please stop the blatant hypocrisy with your war and global bombings. Pretending that you care for our troops when you are blatantly using and abusing them for your personal agenda's. Then, ironically, condemn patriotic Americans like me that actually DO care about our wonderful soldiers. We speak out FOR THE SOLDIERS and against you guys.
We owe everything to our military. Our brave soldiers will do things that the rest of us won't or can't for our democracy.
They should always be put on a pedestal and treated special, just for their willingness to serve our country.
Sadly, our politicians have USED them to serve the Military-Industrial-Political complex for numerous decades.
Donald Trump is not the first one to do it. However, he's the latest and it's 2026.
At least America has learned to not sacrifice thousands of brave soldiers lives in quagmire wars that accomplish nothing. Mainly because we are SO powerful that we can just drop thousands of huge bombs on whoever we want with impunity.
That is far from making it right!
This really is all about what is right and what is wrong, not political party.
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