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Started by 12345 - Jan. 29, 2024, 11:38 p.m.

THE WAY TO BECOME A MULTI-BILLION $ BUSINESS? 

Prisoners in the US are part of a hidden workforce linked to hundreds of popular food brands

Takeaways from the AP's investigation into how US prison labor supports many popular food brands

The number of people behind bars in the United States started to soar in the 1970s just as Ingram entered the system, disproportionately hitting people of color. Now, with about 2 million people locked up, U.S. prison labor from all sectors has morphed into a multibillion-dollar empire, extending far beyond the classic images of prisoners stamping license plates, working on road crews or battling wildfires.

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By metmike - Jan. 30, 2024, 11:26 a.m.
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Wonderful topic, Jean! Thanks!

This article below is loaded with  comprehensive information!

Mass Incarceration: The Whole Pie 2023

https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2023.html?c=pie&gclid=Cj0KCQiA2eKtBhDcARIsAEGTG43-1qJLr2KNSOb4AUUurQModtpXScMoR5Q14-S9EXbVw3O5oTNYI0gaAvJdEALw_wcB




By metmike - Jan. 30, 2024, 11:35 a.m.
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The United States is the epicenter of mass incarceration. It’s time to end that.

The United States is home to less than 5 percent of the world’s population, yet nearly 16 percent of all incarcerated people—roughly two million people—are held in our jails and prisons. Our incarceration rate is among the highest in the world. Vera is working to end the system of mass incarceration.

https://www.vera.org/ending-mass-incarceration?ms=awar_comm_all_grant_BS22_ctr_AP2&utm_source=grant&utm_medium=awar&utm_campaign=all_AP2&gclid=Cj0KCQiA2eKtBhDcARIsAEGTG41__F63xon6QibsM74rIcyNg-TcIEzCDtMpt9u527YxBnPqtRAWZm4aAkpeEALw_wcB     

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I would argue strongly that they're putting the cart before the horse. Blaming the justice system and systemic racism, when the LEGIT MEASURED violent crime rate for young black males is 6 times higher than for whites is ignoring the cause.

The only viable solution must involve lowering the crime rate with changes in society if you want less minorities in jail.

Lowering the standards and penalties for crimes will have the opposite impact over time.

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                Muhammad Ali’s son says dad would have hated ‘racist’ Black Lives Matter            

               Started by metmike - June 20, 2020, 10:17 a.m. 

     https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/54201/

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   Re: Using statistics to lie and smear cops            

    https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/53752/


                How tens of millions of Americans recently became racists-Not!                      

                Started by metmike - June 20, 2020, 8:06 p.m.  

     https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/54245/


                Deaths from cops by race            

                 Started by metmike - June 27, 2020, 3:22 p.m.     https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/54687/


It's more than just minorities...........mass shootings and hate crimes, mostly from whites have been soaring higher too:

                Re: Re: Re: Re: ‘Tennessee Three’            

                            By metmike - April 10, 2023, 9:37 p.m.     

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                Re: Re: Chauvin verdict reached            

                            By metmike - April 20, 2021, 7:35 p.m.                                                   

I will show the link here again, with my ideas on how to help fix the system in a way that would actually help minorities.

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/68075/#68093

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                By metmike - July 18, 2021, 4:31 p.m.       

   

By 12345 - Jan. 30, 2024, 12:01 p.m.
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IF THE "PARENTS" OF THE YOUTH WERE LOCKED UP ON A CHILDS' 1ST OFFENSE, NO MATTER THE CHARGE (CURFEW VIOLATION, ETC.), I CAN'T HELP BUT BELIEVE THE "PARENTS" JUST MIGHT TAKE THE HINT & BEGIN TO PARENT THEIR CHILDREN.

By metmike - Jan. 30, 2024, 2:38 p.m.
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In theory that makes sense on 1 level, Jean.......and it could work for some situations. 

But it's your and my responsible,  law abiding brain doing the thinking and we are applying it with the assumption that this will make parents care more about their children by imposing harsh consequences to the parents when their kids misbehave.

I fear that tougher Laws and penalties applied to parents may not cause them to LOVE or CARE FOR their children but it could cause them to be reigned in for some cases.

The many absent dads or divorced families pose an especially complicate situation.

If a working single mom in the inner city is doing her absolute best to raise a son thats in a bad environment with no help from the dad, who is completely absent but pays his child support, what do we do?

He's meeting his legal requirements. Do we make laws that he must spend X amount of time with his son. What if he's a dirt bag and spending NO TIME is better than a bad influence.

If he's not the one raising the kid, how is he responsible?

With the struggling Mom. She needs assistance from the community not penalties, especially if she's doing the best she knows how. 

Sometimes, parents doing their darn best will fail. I've seen plenty of families where some kids are successes and others failures in the same family.

Do we reward those parents for the successes..........then punish them for the failures of each child?

Then, how do we enforce this fairly/with justice to parents raising kids in the inner city that hang around bad friends, compared to justice for parents raising kids in the rich neighborhoods that hang around good friends?

It would be impossible, actually. But still an idea to think about.