Ron DeSantis Is at the Forefront of New Republican Climate Politics

https://time.com/6219326/ron-desantis-climate-florida/

DeSantis addresses climate change impacts but not the source, some say: ANALYSIS

https://abcnews.go.com/US/desantis-addresses-climate-change-impacts-source-analysis/story?id=90755697

"This idea of, quote, climate change has become politicized," DeSantis said at a speech in April 2019, "My environmental policy is just to try to do things that benefit Floridians."

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DeSantis for president 2024!

He's already got my vote(despite not agreeing with several items in his agenda) and I'll campaign for somebody for the 2nd time in my life! A decade ago a power lifting friend ran for sheriff in our county.

DeSantis is the only person that can save our country from fake green energy poverty and economic ruin.

And help save Ukraine from a never ending war that's obliterating their country because NATO wants war instead of peace. They refuse to negotiate, then bombard us with false propaganda to justify it.

AS I SAID IN MY PREVIOUS POSTING OF THIS: "I GUESS I NEED TO LISTEN TO THIS, A FEW MORE TIMES!  LOL  AM I ACTUALLY HEARING THIS THE WAY HE PRESENTS IT?  IF SO.......  THIS IS THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE OF MINDSET  I'VE EVER HAD WITH HIM."

IMO ~ ZEL & PUTIN ARE SIAMESE PEAS IN A POD.

Russia chases and eliminates Ukrainian troops in Donetsk's forest; 'Tit-for-tat' after Crimea attack

Col. MacGregor: The GATHERING storm in Ukraine spells doom for the West

250,000 DEAD UKRAINE CITIZENS ~ DEAD RUSSIAN TROOPS, UNCOUNTABLE ~ 300,000 - 400,000 INJRED THAT WON'T BE RETURNING TO DUTY

402 JETS ~ 256 HELICOPTERS ~ 1,000'S OF DRONES... SHOT DOWN BY RUSSIA.

OH, BUT ~" UKRAINE IS "WINNING"!!!

Jean,

I expressed my opinion of Levin previously here:

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/92033/#92237

1. Those that believe he's "The Great One" and believe EVERYTHING that he says because he always says things that they WANT TO believe in.

He proves that with his opening in this presentation. Note that he spends a great deal of time from the get go, flatteriing his audience, telling them about how smart they are and why they are so smart......because they watch him.

This is so crystal clearly a master charlatan technique selling snake oil by telling people what they want to hear. 

Entities that constantly tell viewers/readers that they are extremely smart because they watch them or read them are falling for one of the most blatantly dishonest tricks in the book. 

My favorite posts here are those that DISAGREE with me. The scientific method compels the scientist to try to prove themselves wrong FIRST. Unable to do that? Then you know you are right!

And this is not to try to convince anybody of anything, just explaining authenticity.

Instead of being an echo chamber, telling people what they want to hear, the moderator here  slams BOTH SIDES based on facts and evidence, even when it alienates the ones who go to places to hear/read things they want to believe in.

Levin is the opposite of that. Nobody from the left watches him or believes anything he says.

He knows his audience is far right and has an extremely long history of stating completely bogus things, especially in support of Trump that profoundly violates truth.

His personal views/agenda on politics have caused him to come up with this distorted version. 

Putin and Russia are extremely evil and should be held accountable for these heinous acts but you will note that,  he fails to discuss the viable alternative. Peace with Russia by agreeing to not make Ukraine part of NATO which was completely rejected by us. 

The reality question has always been.

Have all those atrocities that he mentioned been worth Ukraine becoming part of NATO?

Having 1 trillion times more damage inflicted on Ukraine to get the potential  value of the reward?

It's amazing how peoples minds have been propagandized to not see this. 

What would have been the damage from Russia to people in Ukraine, if NATO and Zelensky had agreed to not hook up?

Putin made it clear. Agree on that or I will take things into my own hands and do what he's doing. 

NATO, had the choice of the MUCH lesser of 2 evils and picked this one and continues to fight a war over Ukraine becoming part of NATO. But that’s not what they tell us, is it?

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/92952/#93229

These 3 people have the most say in the Ukraine war.

1. Putin

2. Zelensky

3. Biden

All 3 are solidly committed to war "as long as it takes" 

So killing of Ukrainians (and Russian soldiers) and widespread decimation of Ukraine will continue............"as long as it takes"

Possible ending points.

1. After Russia and Ukrainian military's trade off enough deaths that Ukraine loses. In that event, the psychopath Zelensky may still not give up, even if he killed most of his army, he would still be pleading with NATO, that he just needs more assistance.

2. Some totally unseen way(using common sense) that Ukraine would get the upper hand and force Russia back. In this case, Russia would be most likely to use nuclear weapons. When it comes to "as long as it takes" for Putin, that likely means using nuclear weapons if his current plan.........which is working, is no longer working. 

3. Both sides decide to negotiate and go for peace. Everybody reading this has read mostly that it's Putin's extreme demands that are preventing this.  This is propaganda. 

Putin mainly wanted a guarantee that Ukraine would not join NATO, see why for yourself:

How NATO's expansion helped drive Putin to invade Ukraine

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/29/1076193616/ukraine-russia-nato-explainer

Two maps show NATO’s growth — and Russia’s isolation — since 1990

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/19/two-maps-show-natos-growth-and-russias-growing-isolation-since-1990.html

Europe in 1990

In 1990, the year after the Berlin Wall fell, the Russia-dominated Soviet Union included Ukraine, the Baltic states and several other now-independent countries. The Warsaw Pact, an alliance also dominated by Russia, included six satellite countries that are all now independent as well.

Europe in 2022

Over the last 32 years, Germany has reunified and all the former Warsaw Pact countries have joined NATO. Three countries that were once part of the Soviet Union — Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania — have joined NATO as well.

The US and Canada are also NATO members.

Putin is fighting NATO for Ukraine right now. Not possibly or theoretically. Ukraine was on a fast track to join NATO. Look who's helping Ukraine right now........NATO! The entire war is all about that. The US is the most powerful part of NATO fighting Russia for Ukraine right now. 

The war would have been avoided if Ukraine agreed to NOT join NATO. That's it, man. I think that Ukraine should have been able to join NATO but when the choice was this, that was inevitable and 1 million times worse than the right to join NATO, only retarded thinking and diabolical political propaganda would justify this choice. 

There was a choice that would have resulted in no Ukraine war but it meant no NATO for Ukraine. People stating otherwise are either lying or repeating a lie they read and believe from propaganda..........which is almost everything we read in the US.

Again, Putin is an evil guy and this was unjustified. But we COMPLETELY understood his thinking and intentionally choose to go to war with him over Ukraine because NATO wanted this PREVENTABLE war. 

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Every once in awhile, Levin will hit on some great points. However, flipping a coin would yield much better results than following him.        

China’s Xi stresses close ties with ‘dear friend’ Putin during his first visit to Russia since Ukraine invasion

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/20/europe/xi-putin-china-russia-visit-monday-intl-hnk/index.html

Putin flaunts alliance with Xi as 'dear friends' meet in Kremlin

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-welcome-xi-moscow-under-shadow-ukraine-war-2023-03-20/

Russia-China ties enter ‘new era’ as Xi meets Putin in Moscow

Xi signs an agreement with Russian president Vladimir Putin cementing their ‘no limits’ partnership, days after the latter was issued an international arrest warrant.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/3/21/chinas-xi-says-ties-with-russia-entering-new-era

For those that love analyzing history and have studied a great number of the biggest blunders and dumbest wars from the past 2 centuries, you can appreciate what we have all been witnessing the past 13 months.

Right before our eyes,  we are watching what appears to be headed towards #1 in the historical Hall of Shame for that category.

The blatant propaganda and collusion with the media still has many to most captured brains in the West unable to actually see it.......yet.

The thing that elevates this one right  to the top is that the option to make an agreement  with Putin, that Ukraine would not be part of NATO is all that would have been needed to avoid all of this.

WW2 was needed to stop Hitler for instance and there were no options to avoid the war.

In this case, a fake propaganda position was created to make us think that Putin is just like that. After getting Ukraine, he will take Poland next. 

Almost 0% chance of that if you understand the authentic facts.

So the West/NATO have gained nothing at the expense of hundreds of thousands of dead people. 

At the expense of causing 1 trillion+ of damage to Ukraine.

At the expense of causing an additional 10 million that have fled.

At the expense of  causing global inflation from food and energy supplies shrinking(intentionally for energy-including the US blowing up a key natural gas pipeline from Russia to Europe)  that has cost consumers  trillions in additional cost for goods. 

At the expense of 100 billion from US tax payers so far and MUCH more to come, especially when it's time to rebuild Ukraine.

At the expense of a new alliance between Russia and global adversaries, China and Iran. This basically sabotages the affects of any embargo we have and in fact, penalizes US the most because taking Russian goods/energy off the global market has massively increased inflation to us and Putin is just increasing trade with China, India and other countries, that are getting cheaper prices now. 

All of that, just so that Ukraine can join NATO. 

The damage incurred already compared to the potential reward is over 1 zillion times greater.

All we had to do was agree that Ukraine would not be part of NATO.

Now, we hear that Putin must withdraw in order for negotiations to happen. 

Ahhhh, before Putin invaded, that was the situation and NATO/Zelensky/Biden refused to negotiate. 

Putin is totally in the wrong here and his concerns with NATO gave him 0 justification to do what he's doing.

Let's say that you were the animal caretaker at a zoo and had some very dangerous animals behind bars that you were responsible for feeding and keeping locked up to protect them and people on the outside.

One of those animals was a ferocious lion. A carnivore that when hungry will attack and eat any other animal that it can kill. Even when not hungry the lion is extremely dangerous. Let's say the caretaker hated this lions guts for personal reasons and wanted is destroyed. 

If the caretaker intentionally didn't feed the lion for a week, then intentionally opened the cage, knowing that the lion would be looking to kill the first animal it encountered, hoping that it would have to be shot for doing what he knew it would do...........should the caretaker be held accountable?

Putin is not like the lion because he dang well  knows the difference between right and wrong and HE should be held fully accountable.

However, NATO/Zelenky/BIden are just like the caretaker. Exactly like the lion's caretaker.

 They knew with certainty what would happen if they refused to negotiate with Putin. It couldn't have been more crystal clear from ALL of Putins words and actions. Putin is just doing exactly what he said that he would do and for the exact same reasons he said he would do it.

But NATO/Zelensky/Biden obviously were willing to sacrifice EVERYTHING because they hate Putin and want him destroyed.

Incredible things have already been lost and NATO/Zelensky/Biden continue to insist on the same game plan.........defeat Putin on the battlefield.

We may soon be saying, defeat Russia, China, Iran and maybe others on the battlefield(s) with cyber or nuclear war possible and the extended battle field could come home.

Actually, it has already. Do you remember what they called it initially?

 Putin's price hike!

The inflation from NATO's price hike has cost all of us a good deal of money at the store and for energy and in addition extra debt which our country can't afford. Just wait until we get the bill for rebuilding Ukraine. You ain't seen nothin yet!

Here's  the biggest thing keeping American support strong.

As long as American soldiers aren't the ones getting killed and our country isn't the one taking all the damage....let Ukrainians get killed and their country completely decimated to destroy Putin!

With nothing but escalation coming according to the NATO war plan, it's very likely the instability to our world that  has already taken place has changed global dynamics in ways that mean future consequences are already unavoidable. 

And it can only get worse  to unthinkably worse with their current strategy.

The only thing that can change that is negotiating and agreeing that Ukraine will not join NATO. 

Headed toward #1 in the Hall of Shame for really stupid, very preventable wars risking everything to get almost nothing!

"WW2 was needed to stop Hitler for instance and there were no options to avoid the war."

  I CAN STILL HEAR MY GRANDPA, (IN HIS THICK GERMAN ACCENT) AFTER WWII:  "WE SHOULD'VE KEPT GOING UNTIL WE GOT THE ROOOSSIANS!"  LOL