Biden Puts Fingers in His Ears
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Started by metmike - Nov. 5, 2022, 11:42 a.m.

Biden Puts Fingers in His Ears as Recession Alarm Bells Ring Everywhere-Newsweek


The Biden administration does not believe the U.S. is in a recession and is not preparing for one, according to White House officials, despite economic indicators suggesting a recession could be on the cards.

White House Chief of Staff Ron Klain told MSNBC on Thursday that "we are not in a recession. I want to be really, really clear on that," while White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre told MSNBC the administration wasn't planning for one.

Jean-Pierre said "there are no meetings or anything happening like that in preparing for a recession because... look, what we're seeing right now is a strong labor market."

By mcfarm - Nov. 5, 2022, 6:50 p.m.
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right Ron Klain and miss St whatever her name is. In this new wok world we just ignore what we don't like and lie about the rest. Seems to work just fine. Paid every week, nice benefits, vacation time, all the rest. From Biden on down right to the basement worker at the USDA.

By metmike - Nov. 5, 2022, 7:04 p.m.
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Biden: Coal Plants “All Across America” will be Shut Down, Replaced by Solar and Wind


Biden's agenda to create energy INsecurity in the United States. This is a continuation of the Obama agenda. 

 Draining the SPR for self serving politics-NTR                                    


Energy Insecurity-United States

In 2020, U.S. coal production fell to its lowest level since 1965(and has dropped much lower since then)

                                        annual U.S. coal production 

Source: U.S. Energy Information Administration, Annual Coal Report 


U.S. coal production totaled 535 million short tons (MMst) in 2020, a 24% decrease from the 706 MMst mined in 2019 and the lowest level of coal production in the United States in any year since 1965.  

The insane thing about this is that the US has more coal reserves than any country by a wide margin(24%):

 THAT's where the most of our energy security is! Many thousands of times more energy than what's in the SPR!



By metmike - Nov. 6, 2022, 3:06 p.m.
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Democrat Energy Policy Civil War: Manchin Blasts Biden’s Coal Shutdown Comments

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Democrat Crack-Up: Manchin Blasts Biden’s Coal Comments as ‘Outrageous’


President Biden’s comments are not only outrageous and divorced from reality, they ignore the severe economic pain the American people are feeling because of rising energy costs. Comments like these are the reason the American people are losing trust in President Biden and instead believes he does not understand the need to have an all in energy policy that would keep our nation totally energy independent and secure. It seems his positions change depending on the audience and the politics of the day. Politicising our nation’s energy policies would only bring higher prices and more pain for the American People.


Let me be clear, this is something the President has never said to me. Being cavalier about the loss of coal jobs for men and women in West Virginia and across the country who literally put their lives on the line to help build and power this country is offensive and disgusting. The President owes these incredible workers an immediate and public apology and it is time he learn a lesson that his words matter and have consequences.

Source: Senator Joe Manchin’s Twitter Account


    Mike Maguire  

        November 6, 2022 10:14 am                

The same Manchin  that signed the fake inflation reduction act renamed to trick people  into thinking it does the opposite of what it will really do.

One of those things is killing coal and he knows it but is acting dumb now so as to not take any blame.


    David Wojick               

                Reply to             Mike Maguire        

        November 6, 2022 10:57 am

        Manchin forced the proposed Recon Bill from $3 trillion down to just over $300 billion, a 90% cut. As a Democrat he had to let them have something. He is a hero.


    Mike Maguire    

                Reply to             David Wojick        

        November 6, 2022 1:09 pm

This is what he voted for:

Biden’s Climate Law Is Ending 40 Years of Hands-Off GovernmentFor America to decarbonize, it must reindustrialize.

Since the law emerged from a surprise compromise between Senator Joe Manchin and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer last month, most attention has been paid to the fact of the bill itself: that it is a climate bill, that America’s sorry environmental record has begun to reverse.
Your position is that, despite an option to vote against the worst bill in history and not letting it wreck the country at all (which is actually what most people assumed was coming from him), he instead, at the last minute as a democrat, decided to put his party first and play politics and used his clout to lower the extent of the record damage.

Hero would have been NOT changing his position to vote for the bill which is intended to transform US energy from reliable fossil fuels that are greening up the planet, switching to diffuse, intermittent renewables, like wind the energy source from environmental hell, destroying landscapes, ecosystems, killing birds/bats and supported by crony capitalism and government hands outs like the ones coming from the fake inflation reduction act that he could have stopped if not caving in to his party.


    Mike Maguire

                Reply to             David Wojick        

        November 6, 2022 3:18 pm

        Your $300 billion is extremely unrealistic, very wishful thinking too. 

The main objective of the bill is to accelerate the death of fossil fuels, with coal being already well on its way, having numerous nails in the coffin. 

The US Climate Bill Is a Bigger Deal Than Most People RealizeClimate spending thanks to the Inflation Reduction Act may end up as high as $1 trillion, says political science professor Leah Stokes.

By metmike - Nov. 7, 2022, 1:38 a.m.
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Green Hypocrisy Writ Large: Wind Industry’s Wholesale Destruction of Entire Forest Habitats

Wiping out entire forest habitats is all part of our ‘inevitable’ transition to a wind powered future. Across Germany, millions of acres of forest have been clear-felled and great swathes cut through others, to allow some 29,000 of these things to be speared across Deutschland.

The same is happening in the Green Mountain State, Vermont, where pristine hills and mountains are being bulldozed and dynamited in order to ‘save’ the planet.

Where phony eco-warriors jump for joy, real environmentalists are left to weep.

NoTricksZone takes a look at green hypocrisy, writ large.

How Wartenberg, Germany, Ruined Its Natural Landscape To Make Way For “Green” Wind Turbines
No Tricks Zone
Pierre Gosselin
9 November 2019

Probably the most disturbing aspect of wind energy is its destructive impact the green energy source has on the environment, never mind its sporadic supply, adverse health impacts and high costs.

As Germany ignored all warnings about wind energy’s shortcomings and its threats, government officials charged ahead blindly and obstinately, without a plan, into the uncontrolled development of the power source.

Germany wrecks its landscape
What follows is a photo video montage of how a beautiful natural landscape near the (once) scenic central German community of Wartenberg was tragically transformed into an industrial eyesore.


The “Vogelsberg” wind project was carried out by a cooperation consisting of utility HessenEnergie, “scrupelous” forest owners and the community of Wartenberg.

The video posted on YouTube starts by showing a once idyllic scenery the area offered before the wind project came along and stamped it out. At about the 1:20 mark we begin to see the destruction inflicted on nature to build the project and then how today it is an almost inhospitable area for much wildlife.

Ruining communities to “save the planet”
It’s a classic example of how people professing to have good intentions, yet lacking in vision and judgement, allow themselves to be hijacked by populist green ideology and end up ruining everything they touch around them. They tell us they will rescue the planet, but only end up ruining their communities. It’s a disgrace.

These “leaders” operate according to true populism. They make promises that sound good to the masses who cannot think one step ahead and see the true consequences.

Vermont’s, Bernie Sanders’s disaster
It all reminds me how a few years back my home state of Vermont (whose source of power was in large part green hydro to begin with) deforested and dynamited its green mountain tops which took nature millions of years to sculpture, and then installed large wind turbines. Also see here and here.

Vermont ‘saves’ environment by installing wind turbines.

Wildlife habitat makes way for Vermont’s planet ‘savers’.

No Tricks Zone

By metmike - Nov. 7, 2022, 1:56 a.m.
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No Respite: Wind & Solar Driven Power & Pricing Calamity Can Only Get Worse


November 7, 2022  by

With the debacle playing out in Europe and the UK, it takes a special brand of delusion the claim that increasing reliance on wind and solar will inevitably result in falling power prices. And delusion, in that respect, is very much the order of the day amongst Australia’s Green/Labor Alliance. When it comes to anything […]

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Money For Nothing: Europe Squandered $Trillions On Weather-Dependent Part Time Power

Despite Europe spending €1.2 Trillion on large-scale wind and solar generation, the amount of power being actually delivered in return is risible. Which is precisely what you’d expect from power generation sources which can only deliver anything like their nameplate capacity when the sun is up, in a cloudless sky, and the wind is blowing

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‘Green’ Fraud: Wind & Solar ‘Transition’ Devouring The Planet’s Scarce Resources

Rent-seekers and the MSM keep telling us the transition to an all-wind and sun-powered future is not only inevitable, it’s a cinch. The power pricing and supply calamity playing out in renewables-obsessed Germany and Britain stands as a pretty fair counterpoint, to that nonsense. Then, we’re told, it can all be done, provided it’s “done […]

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No Defence: Chaotic Wind & Solar Prime Culprits For Massive Retail Power Price Hikes

The insane cost of the wind and solar ‘transition’ is starting to bite; the wind and sun cult are struggling to shift the blame. While Vlad Putin may be a seriously thuggish dictator, he can’t seriously be held responsible for rocketing power prices in the UK, Europe and Australia, where power prices have been surging […]

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Wrong Bet: Wind & Solar ‘Transition’ Really About Lunatics Gambling With Your Money

Those pushing the wind and solar transition exhibit the kind of moral turpitude you’d expect from lunatics gambling with other people’s money. Politicians might have been forgiven a decade ago, but not now. Europe’s self-inflicted wind and solar calamity clearly hasn’t registered with Australia’s political class. The worst (but not the only) offenders are the […]


Rent-Seekers Profit From Propaganda Machine: Wind Industry Rides Wave of MSM Lies

With power consumers suffering the disastrous consequences of the wind and solar transition in Germany and Britain, the MSM are still doing their best to deflect attention from the obvious cause. How we found ourselves in a world where power prices are simply unaffordable, and power can only be delivered according the vagaries of the […]

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Destination Destruction: Deluded Virtue Signallers Destroying Reliable & Affordable Power Supplies


October 30, 2022  by

Every country chasing the wind and solar ‘transition’ is suffering from a mix of power rationing and rocketing prices. There is no exception. Which brings us to our sunny land, Australia. Blessed with abundant reserves of coal, gas and uranium, it ought to enjoy the world’s cheapest power prices (20 years ago, it did). Now, […]

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No New Green Deal: Nothing Environmentally Friendly About Wind & Solar


October 28, 2022  by 9 Comments 

Cultists couldn’t care less about the environmental destruction that both wind and solar leave in their wake, merrily ignoring the thousands of wind turbine blades and millions solar panels already being dumped in landfills. Apparently, their mountainous toxic waste legacy will be something for future generations to deal with. The same characters vilify fossil fuels […]

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State Sanctioned Slaughter: Wind Farm Operator Gets Licence to Kill Rare & Endangered Bats


October 27, 2022  by 8 Comments 

The wind power cult have no difficulty in justifying the destruction of pristine landscapes; the dismemberment of once cohesive, rural communities; the creation of toxic waste lands in China (where the rare earths essential to wind turbines are processed); crushing power prices that punish the poorest and most vulnerable in society; and barely shrug at the slaughter […]

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Wind & Sun Can’t Deliver: So Power-Starved Germans Demand Nuclear Plants Remain Online


October 26, 2022  by 6 Comments 

Mass civil unrest is odds-on in power starved Germany and Britain this winter, thanks to the so-called wind and solar ‘transition’. With thousands likely to freeze to death, the collective sense of humour will soon evaporate, along with any remaining faith in the ability of wind and solar to deliver power, as and when it’s […]

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Don’t Believe The Hype: Exposing Staggering Cost of Subsidised Wind & Solar ‘Transition’


October 25, 2022  by 3 Comments 

There’s only one problem with the claim that wind and solar are cheap; that would be the evidence. The power pricing and supply calamity that has struck Britain and Germany, and places like California and South Australia before that, renders the “renewables are cheap” meme little more than delusional nonsense. But the unhinged and unsupported […]

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Electric Dreams: Why We Can Never Run Exclusively On Wind & Solar Power


October 24, 2022  by 3 Comments 

The next ‘big thing’ is an all-electric world, where power caressed from sunshine and breezes will provide all the energy, we ever need, for everything we ever do. Given the tag ‘electrification’, it sounds like another simple wheeze that only requires an open mind and a little goodwill. Well, like the grand wind and solar […]

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Europe’s Wind & Solar Dependent States Scramble To Secure Reliable Supplies


October 23, 2022  by 3 Comments 

Every country in Europe that hitched its hopes to sunshine and breezes is now in a mad scramble to secure reliable power supplies, before winter starts to bite and demand soars. Watching the debacle playing out across Europe, is a little like the old party game of musical chairs. Every time the music stops at […]

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Why Wind & Solar ‘Transition’ Means End of Reliable & Affordable Power – Forever


October 11, 2022  by 6 Comments 

The destruction of once reliable and affordable electricity supplies is so evidently deliberate, it can no longer be put down to ignorance, alone. Nothing but brazen ideology sits beneath the claim that we are a heartbeat away from a transition to an all wind and sun powered future. We are continually told that, putting aside […]

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Net Zero Intelligence: Logic and Reason Give Way to Unreliable Renewables Obsession


October 10, 2022  by 4 Comments 

Reason and logic are in the fight of their lives; ideologues continue to push chaotically intermittent wind and solar, determined to deprive us of the reliable and affordable power that dragged us towards the unparalleled peace and prosperity we currently take for granted. Net-zero carbon oxide gas emissions targets are only the latest assault launched […]

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Unreliable Wind & Solar Leave Power-Starved Europeans Vulnerable During Big Freeze


October 9, 2022  by 2 Comments 

The northern hemisphere turns on bitter winters – getting wind turbines and solar panels to turn on in the midst of one, is another matter. A cohort of Americans left powerless during the winter storm that struck in February 2021, has already had a taste of their wind and solar ‘powered’ future, and didn’t take kindly […]

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Grand ‘Renewables’ Delusion: Hard Reality Keeps Smashing Wind & Solar ‘Transition’ Myth


October 8, 2022  by 5 Comments 

Zealots tout Germany as the benchmark for the ‘inevitable transition’ to wind and solar, but its energy system is a complete debacle; power rationing is the new normal and prices are through the roof. Indeed, any country that got serious about subsidising wind and solar is finding itself in serious trouble. Disastrous examples such as […]

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Californian Covers Water Supply Channels With Solar Panels – Laden With Toxic Gunk


October 7, 2022  by 6 Comments 

Solar panels are a veritable toxic cocktail of gallium arsenide, tellurium, silver, crystalline silicon, lead, cadmium and other heavy metals. Ground up and dumped in their millions into landfills, it’s not difficult to imagine the effect on water supplies, the environment and human health as their poisonous entrails leach into the water table over the coming […]

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Never Sustainable: Wind & Solar ‘Transition’ Just Another Failed Utopian Dream


October 6, 2022  by 4 Comments 

The wind and solar ‘transition’ is being sold as Utopia – but anyone prepared to believe that will believe anything. In Germany and Britain, a growing number are starting to work it out. They’ve been lied to; they’re angry and there will be a political vengeance against those who have delivered misery of a type […]

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Why America’s Green Subsidies Are Making China’s Wind Turbine & Solar Panel Makers Rich


October 5, 2022  by 3 Comments 

China is profiting nicely from the West’s maniacal obsession with subsidised wind and solar – it dominates the global market for solar panels, with plenty of unwilling assistance from its captive Uighur ethnic minority; and has picked up a solid share of the wind turbine market, thanks to cheap and reliable nuclear and coal-fired power. […]

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Smoke & Mirrors: Claims About Wind & Solar Being Cheap Don’t Stand Contact With Reality


October 4, 2022  by 3 Comments 

Renewable energy rent seekers keep spreading the lie about wind and solar being the cheapest form of power there is. Trouble is, there isn’t a shred of evidence to support claims about wind and solar being cheap. There never was. The position your country occupies on the table above is directly related to increased reliance […]

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Fossil Fuel Dragged Us Out of Poverty & Delivers Prosperity For Everyone, Every Day


October 3, 2022  by 5 Comments 

Fossil fuel is the catalyst for modernity: coal, then oil and gas, have driven the mechanization and industrialisation responsible for lifting billions out of agrarian poverty, and all in the space of little more than a century. A reliable supply of electricity allows the impoverished to escape the daily drudgery and misery of a life […]

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Deliberately Trashed: Why Biden’s Subsidised Wind & Solar Push Is Destroying America


October 2, 2022  by 7 Comments 

Once the engineers were banished and the bureaucrats took charge, the fate of reliable and affordable energy supplies was sealed. Trashing coal-fired power plants, demonising nuclear power and squandering untold $billions on hopelessly unreliable wind and solar would have never happened if the engineers were left alone to run the show. The results are difficult […]

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Dark Days Ahead: Wind & Solar Obsessed Germany Braces For Mass Blackouts


October 1, 2022  by 5 Comments 

A mixture of dread and panic has struck with the realisation that power rationing and rocketing prices are the only thing ‘inevitable’ about the grand wind and solar transition. Germany set its path towards energy poverty, economic and social chaos, almost 20 years ago. Now, with a little help from Vlad Putin and his strategic […]

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Planet Strippers: Amazon’s Balsa Forests Being Raped To Make Wind Turbine Blades


September 30, 2022  by 2 Comments 

Stripping the Amazon basin’s forests of balsa to make wind turbine blade is all part of our ‘inevitable’ transition. So is turning rural China into a toxic industrial wasteland (see above). Giant industrial wind turbines comprise hundreds of tonnes of steel, aluminium, plastics, copper and rare earths used in the generator’s magnets. There is also […]

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Dirty Business: CCP Dominates Global Solar Panel Market Using Slave Labour 

September 29, 2022  by 4 Comments 

The fact that China dominates solar panel manufacturers using slave labour tends to take the smugness out of Western virtue signallers. Over time, a few journalists have been able to sneak a peek behind the CCP curtain and bring to light the manner in which China’s ‘employs’ its Uyghur and Kazakh minorities to manufacture the […]

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By metmike - Nov. 7, 2022, 1:58 a.m.
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                Europe's energy crisis solution            

                            Started by metmike - Sept. 17, 2022, 6:44 p.m.            


By now, everybody knows that natural gas and electricity market prices are up 10-fold in the last year in Europe.

Most explanations for who/what is to blame are extremely misleading to complete lies. For instance:

1. It's  evil Putin's fault.

2. It's the reliance on dirty, planet killing fossil fuels fault.

3. It's because they didn't switch completely to the panacea green energy that creates a utopian world of  unlimited jobs and cheap energy, while cleaning up the environment and  saving the planet.

That's all really wrong.

Previous discussion(on Europe):

The picture/graph in this post is worth a thousand words but please do read the explanation:

Graph shows gross power production in Germany 1990-2021, by source. Graph: CLEW 2021.


By metmike - Nov. 7, 2022, 2:33 a.m.
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“No More Drilling”: Climate Crusader Joe Biden Announces the End of Oil and Gas

“No more drilling. There is no more drilling! I haven’t formed any new drilling.” Is there any doubt remaining, about why Americans are experiencing gasoline pump price pain?


Biden Shouts “No More Drilling. There is no more drilling!” at New York Rally


Michael Shellenberger


For months, President Joe Biden and members of his cabinet have claimed that they are no obstacle to expanded oil and gas production in the United States. On June 21 Biden said, “This idea that they don’t have oil to drill and to bring up is simply not true. This piece of the Republicans talking about Biden shutting down fields is wrong.” On June 22, Biden said, I know my Republican friends claim, we’re not producing enough oil and I’m limiting oil production. Quite frankly, that’s nonsense.”


And on November 2, Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm tweeted, “Disinfo about @POTUS’ energy agenda is being used to scare/mislead Americans while industry cashes in. The facts are clear: This Admin outpaced the previous Admin on crude oil production + oil/gas well approvals while also making historic investments in a clean energy transition.”


But a little over two hours ago, at a rally for New York Governor Kathy Hochul, President Biden shouted, “No more drilling. There is no more drilling! I haven’t formed any new drilling.” (Timestamp: 1:32:03) 

Read more: 

This “no more drilling” announcement comes fresh on the heels of Biden’s end of coal announcement. Michael Shellenberger’s article links to a more complete video of Biden’s speech.

 Surely nobody in their right mind can believe the USA could abruptly shut down all coal, and all oil and gas exploration and drilling, and hope to maintain prosperity and survive as a nation.

The White House staff appear to have been covering for President Biden’s apparent mental deterioration, by issuing press releases which accuse critics of maliciously misinterpreting or twisting Biden’s words.

All I can say is, try talking your way out of this one, White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre.


Biden Shouts "No More Drilling. There is no more drilling!" at New York Rally

By Jim_M - Nov. 7, 2022, 8:40 a.m.
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Remember Mike 81+ million voted for Biden.  He can’t do it alone either.  All across America there are other Governors and Senators on board with this.  How did they get their jobs?  People voted for them.  I don’t understand how people cannot equate high energy prices with the fools they elect.  People get caught up in personalities instead of results.  With ideology instead of results.  Refusing to admit they were wrong instead of results.  
100s of thousands of people watch Joy Reid talk about how no one would know what inflation was if the Republicans would stop talking about it, and they believe her because…it’s the Republicans and any opportunity to bash them is not wasted.  
Have you ever watched the movie Idiocracy?  The parallels are frightening

By metmike - Nov. 7, 2022, 10:55 a.m.
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Good points Jim,

There's some underlying all of this/the root cause.

The powerful technological advancements in communication that includes the internet, social media, MSM and so on have taken advantage or a flaw in human nature that causes us to believe in things that  we want to be true.

Most people now go to sources that tell them the news they want to hear/read. They go to echo chambers that repeat the same things everybody there wants to believe. 

30 years ago, before the internet, we all had the same choices that usually featured objective, responsible journalism that told us different sides of the story and did investigative reporting that didn't always investigate just 1 side(the "other" side).

That has almost died out. Ratings, circulation/sales, self serving motives and political agenda dominate the messages which we see today.

If you're from the go to the places that create a world that affirms your ideologies.

If you're from the go to different places that manufacture a world that affirms your ideologies. 

Both sides can tell when the other one is lying but are completely oblivious when their side lies.........even as it happens just as frequency on both sides.

With time, it just causes both sides to gravitate stronger and stronger to their belief system and distrust the other side more and more. 

The really, REALLY bad thing is that it's getting worse every year and never better any years. As you know from being a trader "the trend is your friend" 

However, in this case, the trend is leading to disaster. 

By metmike - Nov. 7, 2022, 11:31 a.m.
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Do you remember 30+ years ago, before most people had cell phones?

Today, if we leave the house and forget our cell phone, it's like OMG, I need to go back to get it immediately. Can't be anywhere without my cell phone or electronic device.

How did we ever get by without them???

My dad remembers the same thing.........with televisions and even with cars(he's 97). 

He remembers what it was like BEFORE they became accepted as a normal, essential part of our lives by people that were born into that world of advanced technology.

Same thing is going on with regards to the dissemination of information using today's extremely powerful advanced technology. 

1. The amount of information available and ability to communicate is billions of times greater than it was when I grew up. 

2. This can be a wonderful, enlightening dynamic. I've learned more the past 4 years as moderator than I did the previous 24 years from being forced to fact check, investigate, analyze and learn new things. 

3. On the other hand, entities that want to convince people of things also take advantage of this technology and they are often information age predators targeting the minds of those vulnerable to believe in things that people WANT to believe in. .......but aren't true. 

4. Children growing up in this current age, don't know otherwise. They've accepted it as "normal"...............just as most of their parents have. So there's no going back, folks.

5. This is the new normal and it's going in the wrong direction because the rewards for those selling the information snake oil are robust! The consequences/risks are minimal.  You can lie your ars off and even after getting busted, this new world has accepted  the deception as part of being normal and those that believed you before, still want to believe everything that you state, no matter how many times you get busted or debunked.

The world is doomed

By Jim_M - Nov. 7, 2022, 8:16 p.m.
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Mike I’m so old, I remember when I was a kid that my parents had a party phone line.  Unlike the definition we would associate party line today, back then it was sharing a phone line.  Hard to even comprehend now.    
I can’t help but think there is a money trail here as well.  For politicians to follow this climate like lemmings, I can’t help but think they are getting their pockets lined as well.

By 7475 - Nov. 7, 2022, 8:35 p.m.
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Hey Jim- some one as old as me!

Party lines and one phone - centrally placed in the kitchen , on the wall with a 3-4' cord.  Hard to get a cute call into your girlfriend.

 And common sense ? How many times was I embarrassed by my folks when they would reprimand me by sternly

stating " use some common sense for Pete's sake" after I'd pulled some kind of a kid stunt! And  I THINK  ? I've  cultivated a habit to think in "common sense " terms. 

We paid consequences if we didn't.

Consequences for your actions are a great leaning tool - and mostly self inflicted so who's to blame/

.   John

By Jim_M - Nov. 8, 2022, 11:35 a.m.
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Yes to all of that.    

By metmike - Nov. 8, 2022, 11:42 a.m.
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We had a party line too when I was young.

Then, like you guys said, a phone on the wall in the kitchen and me always having tremendous volume in my voice when just speaking normal (made for good tv and radio meteorologist and guest speaker), Mom would get driven bonkers. 

And I displayed a great deal of juvenile delinquency and liked to tell friends about it as well as having a girlfriend.

Those were the "not so good" old days. 

 Consequences didn't work so well for me in those days but Mom & Dad's never giving up on me and Dad's lessons on what it means to be a father, husband, man and human being finally sunk into my thick skull  in my early 20's. 

Dad is still going strong at an amazing 97 years old.


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