Odds of getting a Nobel Peace Prize
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Started by metmike - June 25, 2025, 2:52 p.m.

Nobel Prize betting: What does the market tell us?

https://oddspedia.com/us/insights/features/nobel-peace-prize-odds-and-predictions

Betting markets have proven to be a great means of predicting outcomes for various events. Yes, typically we’re talking about Super Bowl odds or the World Cup in soccer, but the same applies when analysing the Grammy Awards odds and even the Nobel Prize odds.

There is currently a long list of potential candidates for the award this year (the official number of nominees is yet to be confirmed), but a quick at the betting data makes Nobel Prize 2025 predictions a little bit easier. Below is a list of some notable candidates to win this year’s award.

Name/OrganizationUS OddsImplied Probability
Donald Trump+26027.78%
Greta Thunberg+40020.00%
Julian Assange+70012.50%
David Attenborough+90010.00%
International Court of Justice (ICJ)+12007.69%
Nato+14006.67%
Elon Musk+40002.44%
Taylor Swift+80001.23%

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This tells us much more about how the Nobel Prize has deteriorated from its original value for recognizing profound positive contributions to its current use as, SOMETIMES more of a political tool that recognizes blatantly unqualified people that serve a political purpose that can even be fraudulent.

#2 on the list above is the quintessential example. A complete no nothing climate activist/Marxist, spouting anti science about how we are killing the planet.  Blaming capitalism and telling us to follow the corrupt science, while contradicting the authentic science and observations of the planet massively greening up from the law of photosynthesis. 

Her career was launched many years ago as a teenager as she was elevated to a climate super hero with her powerful handlers/promoters from the UN and elsewhere even arranging for her to speak to the US Congress on Earth Day 2021. 

 Greta Thunberg to testify in Congress on Earth Day

The testimony will occur as President Joe Biden hosts a climate change summit with 40 world leaders.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/16/greta-thunberg-congress-testimony-482410

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The absurdity of having a very charismatic, uneducated  teenager good at spouting junk science for the climate religion,  testify in front of Congress about the climate crisis instead of an actual climate scientist tells us exactly how this field has deteriorated into a fake climate crisis religion.

 Based on marketing schemes and motivated by the trillions in money that it makes for crony capitalism and political agendas NOT authentic science.

Greta narrowly missed winning the Nobel Prize in 2019 and 2020 from individuals that actually deserved getting it.

However, in 2025 she may actually have a legit cause........using her celebrity status and following, protesting against Israel's genocide. If that's what she was nominated for I would strongly support the reasoning for the 2025 Peace Prize, even if her persona for becoming famous was thru her fake climate crisis religion. Unlike the ones using her and that are exploiting this field for for personal enrichment and self serving agenda, there is no questions that Greta is extremely sincere and really does have a solid foundation of moral integrity in her heart. 

Very unlike the powerful  gatekeepers that control this field and so often use her for their self serving interests.

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By metmike - June 25, 2025, 3:18 p.m.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greta_Thunberg

Greta Tintin Eleonora Ernman Thunberg (Swedish pronunciation: [ˈɡrêːta ˈtʉ̂ːnbærj]; born 3 January 2003) is a Swedish climate and political activist initially known for challenging world leaders to take immediate action to mitigate the effects of climate change.[1][2][3][4]

Born in Stockholm, Thunberg's climate activism began when she persuaded her parents to adopt lifestyle choices that reduced her family's carbon footprint. In August 2018, aged 15, Thunberg began skipping school, vowing to remain out of school until after a Swedish election to attempt to influence the outcome. She protested outside the Swedish parliament where she called for stronger action on climate change by holding up a Skolstrejk för klimatet (School Strike for Climate) sign and handing out informational flyers.[5] After the election, Thunberg spoke in front of supporters, telling them to use phones to film her. She then said she would continue school striking for the climate every Friday until Sweden was in compliance with the Paris climate agreement.[6] Thunberg's youth and blunt speaking manner fueled her rise to the status of a global icon

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The description of how she got started is actually VERY dishonest, The truth is that her climate activist parents DECIDED TO GROOM AND USE HER FOR THEIR AGENDA and they had very powerful connections with a brilliant marketing scheme!!

A 17 year no nothing about science from Sweden isn't speaking in front of the US Congress because they decided to protest about climate change at the age of 15...........unless some extremely powerful gatekeepers (with a brilliant marketing scheme)  are in complete control of her itinerary and much of her coached messaging.

Again, Greta is completely sincere and cares dearly about humanity and all of her causes, which is why she's been protesting Israel's genocide.

However, as an independent, objective atmospheric science and practicing, fellow environmentalist, she was fed fake climate science religion by her parents and handlers as a child and that's all she knows. She is incapable of seeing the  entire picture based on authentic science.

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I've been unable to even find her nomination for the Nobel Prize in 2025 even though the betting odds place her in 2nd place.

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One of her most famous, loony tunes quotes was this:

                Re: Re: Re: Re: Finally a real expert tellng us the truth about Covid19                 

                By metmike - May 16, 2020, 12:21 a.m.                       

To help you better understand why people feel their intelligence is being insulted when Greta makes an appearance as an expert on anything, these are some of her words:

Greta: "You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words. And yet I'm one of the lucky ones. People are suffering. People are dying.

Entire ecosystems are collapsing. We are in the beginning of a mass extinction, and all you can talk about is money, and fairy tales of eternal economic growth. How dare you!"

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June 25, 2025: The facts and authentic science:

                Death by GREENING!                        

                Started by metmike - May 11, 2021, 2:31 p.m.       

     https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/69258/

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                Re: Re: Death by Greening!                      

                By metmike - Oct. 14, 2023, 2:29 p.m.      

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                Re: Re: Re: Death by Greening!                  

                By metmike - Oct. 14, 2023, 2:41 p.m.            

            

By metmike - June 25, 2025, 3:53 p.m.
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When Gore received this award in 2007, it was a complete joke:

One of my favorites exposing Nye and Gore as climate charlatans.

Al Gore and Bill Nye falsify their global-warming experiment

https://www.johnlocke.org/al-gore-and-bill-nye-falsify-their-global-warming-experiment/

In doing science, you’re supposed to document the steps of an experiment meticulously so that someone can perform the same experiment to see if they get identical results.

As science blogger Anthony Watts shows in incredible detail, an experiment touted in Al Gore’s “Climate 101” video seems to be a total fraud. I encourage anyone who doubts this result to watch all the videos in the blog post. You’ll come to the same inescapable conclusion that Gore and Bill Nye “The Science Guy” faked their results and used editing rather than scientific rigor to reach the conclusions they show to the reader:

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                                                       By metmike - April 18, 2023, 11:18 p.m.          

            Al Gore is a hate filled,  hypocritical, self serving charlatan that has made the world a worse place the last 2 decades.

And for being that way, what did he get?


https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2007/gore/facts/


https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/92155/#92338

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/92155/#92339

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On Greta's climate religion:          


 Finally a real expert telling us the truth about Covid19: Greta on CNN. Scaring and converting children into the climate crisis cult.  Eco-anxiety in children. Greta controlled as the United Nation's climate activist puppet. Failed predictions of the UN and past climate crisis religion high priests, like Al Gore. Showing the truth with actual data/observations vs telling people to listen to the fake science. May 2020. https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/52100/

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                : The "Extinction Clock"            

                            By metmike - Aug. 4, 2023, 5:48 p.m.            


By metmike - June 25, 2025, 4:07 p.m.
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With regards to Trump getting this award.

Bernie Moreno wants Senate to call for Nobel Peace Prize to go to Trump

 'Obama won the Nobel, then he killed hundreds of civilians and did nothing to stop Forever Wars,' Moreno claimed

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bernie-moreno-wants-senate-call-nobel-peace-prize-go-trump

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Pakistan debates Trump Nobel peace prize nomination after US strikes on Iran

Pakistani government had credited US president with ‘pivotal leadership’ in its ceasefire negotiations with India

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/25/pakistan-trump-nobel-peace-prize-nomination-iran-strikes

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I already expressed my view on this:

                Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Trump bombs Iran            

                            By metmike - June 25, 2025, 1:37 a.m.          


            

                Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Trump bombs Iran         

                            By metmike - June 25, 2025, 8:29 a.m.            

By metmike - June 25, 2025, 4:11 p.m.
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Ironically,

Trumps nomination for the Nobel Prize from another source has been WITHDRAWN because of his complete failure:

Donald Trump Nobel Peace Prize Nomination Withdrawn

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-nobel-peace-prize-nomination-withdrawn-ukraine-russia-2089818

Merezhko said Trump had "virtually no reaction" to recent large-scale strikes on the Ukrainian capital, adding: "He has chosen the path of appeasement.

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Trump’s Nobel Peace Prize nomination withdrawn

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-nobel-peace-prize-nomination-191202113.html

Donald Trump’s Nobel Peace Prize nomination has been withdrawn by a senior Ukraine politician who accused the US president of appeasing Vladimir Putin.

Oleksandr Merezhko, chairman of Ukraine’s foreign affairs committee, said he had lost “any kind of faith” in Mr Trump’s ability to end the war.

He nominated Mr Trump in late 2024, revealing to The Telegraph that he believed it would encourage the president-elect to follow through on a pledge to end the war.

“This appeasement of aggression encourages Putin to continue the attack. Trump just turns a blind eye to all of it,” Mr Merezhko said in a letter to the Nobel committee.

“I lost any kind of faith that Trump will deliver in any of his promises.

By metmike - June 25, 2025, 5:08 p.m.
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Issa Nominates President Trump for Nobel Peace Prize

 https://issa.house.gov/media/press-releases/issa-nominates-president-trump-nobel-peace-prize

“Not since Ronald Reagan has an American president better represented the national resolve of peace through strength or the fundamental case for a world without war. Remarkably, it was the 2024 election of Donald Trump – more than 10 weeks before his swearing in – that tangibly kickstarted the cause of peace in numerous regions of the world, and we are already seeing the benefits. I hope the Committee takes note of these extraordinary times and recognizes that President Trump ideally represents what the Nobel Peace Prize should stand for.”

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Whoopsy!

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/112823/#112827


At the absolute top of the list, the need for peace is by far the greatest in the Gaza strip.

Instead of peace, Trump has done the diametrically opposed, polar opposite by taking the side of the psychopath committing a horrific genocide, while keeping his shipments of huge bombs coming to kill people and sustain the 1 sided war. 

Israel vs innocent Gazans/Palestinians, mostly children and women:  Trump is profoundly aligned with the side of evil and against the side of good,  justice/the innocent and humanity.

Greta is full of doo doo with her climate religion but at least she is not a morally bankrupt, self serving politician that imposes a horrific genocide with impunity and justifies it with completely ludicrous, snake oil rhetoric......Israel "defending itself" and if you disagree, you are antisemitic!!

Netanyahu, drunken on  his unlimited power, using US bombs to kill people with no accountability, exploited the current environment in order to expand his agenda for bombing Iran, along with a continuation of using the United States to accomplish his diabolical agenda and objectives. 

President Trump has been putty in his hands as President Trump greatly contributes to the genocide/war in Gaza well before the bombing in Iran.  NOT trying to stop it but assisting the genocide. Waaaaay too much blood is on President's Trump's hands for doing this for him to ever deserve the Nobel Peace Prize.


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                By metmike - June 23, 2025, 12:46 p.m.            

  

So how easy it was to win the genocidal war against mostly children and women in Gaza using one of the worlds most advanced military's and US bombs?

Re: Re: Re: The horrific Genocide ramps up                       

                By metmike - Feb. 25, 2024, 7:33 p.m.                       

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/102430/#102490


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                Military-Industrial-Political-Media complex                                         

                Started by metmike - Jan. 31, 2024, 2:33 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/102009

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Now, with the DIRECT assistance of  the US(actually doing the bombing this time-not just providing the bombs and pretending to be neutral) see how easy it was to violate international laws and win the war in Iran?

The man above is responsible for ALL OF IT.  And he has captured our presidents brain and turned him into a Netanyahu puppet instead of a President of the United States representing the best interests of the citizens of the United States.

America First?

We all just saw the real Donald Trump, regarding America First. 

Instead, for self serving reasons in his pathologically thinking, delusions of grandeur brain, he wants to be part of Netanyahu's completely crushing victories in the Middle East.

Instead of being the only person/country to STOP  the genocide in Gaza, he's elected to be the KEY PART OF IT because of his ego and deranged thinking. 

Using our tax dollars for bombs to kill innocent people. Making all Americans part of it. He just made us all targets by his direct bombing of Iran on Saturday.  

How is that America First?


By metmike - June 25, 2025, 5:24 p.m.
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Pop culture’s dark obsession with Charles Manson – from Guns N’ Roses to Mad Men

The cult leader has inspired thoughtful works of art and literary novels but is more often used as a hackneyed shortcut to outrage. Why the fascination with a white supremacist and misogynist who masterminded the murder of seven people?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/nov/20/charles-manson-pop-culture-dark-obsession-guns-n-roses-mad-men



We all know that Manson was a dangerous psychopath/killer but the most harmful psychopaths in the world today by numerous orders of magnitude are people like Netanyahu (and when they have powerful followers that assist them,  like President Trump).

By metmike - June 25, 2025, 5:37 p.m.
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The psychopaths among us

https://www.sciencefocus.com/the-human-body/the-psychopaths-among-us

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Snakes in Suits

Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work is a 2006 non-fiction book by industrial psychologist Paul Babiak and criminal psychologist Robert D. Hare. The book describes how a workplace psychopath can take power in a business using manipulation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snakes_in_Suits

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How many politicians are psychopaths?

Dark Triad traits are over-represented in positions of power. Are the halls of Congress and Parliament overrun with psychopaths?

https://www.forkingpaths.co/p/how-many-politicians-are-psychopaths

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Why dark personalities participate in politics?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S019188692100698X

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Psychopathic traits and politics: Examining affiliation, support of political issues, and the role of empathy

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886918302332

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April 16, 2025  

Politicians' dark personalities can deepen political divisions

https://phys.org/news/2025-04-politicians-dark-personalities-deepen-political.html

Politicians who score high on the so-called Dark Triad—narcissism (excessive self-focus), psychopathy (emotional coldness and lack of empathy), and Machiavellianism (a tendency toward manipulation and deception)—are associated with greater hostility toward among their followers.

Polarization from within

The researchers show that dark traits have an effect when voters feel ideologically close to the politician in question. The stronger the identification, the more likely supporters are to adopt hostile stances.

"Machiavellian politicians in particular—strategic, manipulative, goal-driven—appear to be catalysts for affective polarization: they deepen emotional divides between their supporters and others," explains Alessandro Nai, researcher at the UvA.

Remarkably, the personality traits of political opponents have little to no effect on the degree of polarization.

Nai said, "We know today that voters tend to take cues from politicians they feel close to, and are more likely to ignore messages from politicians they disagree with. It is thus our own politicians who make us angrier, fuel hostile thinking towards others, and contribute to affective polarization. And this can have dramatic consequences."