Air quality/Wildfires in E.Canada 6-28-23
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Started by metmike - June 28, 2023, 1:29 p.m.

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                Started by metmike - May 19, 2023, 4:53 p.m.  

          https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/95312/



https://gispub.epa.gov/airnow/?showgreencontours=false&xmin=-15116415.788314762&xmax=-6545684.680756798&ymin=2508075.4481877275&ymax=6764089.18310521


https://map.purpleair.com/1/mAQI/a10/p604800/cC0#3.4/38.05/-87.53



To use this forecast model product below, go to the link, scroll down and play the 72 hour animation. The 12z runs are updated around noon, I suspect. The 0z runs are updated around midnight. The frozen frame below is Wednesday eve at 4pm CDT.


https://weather.gc.ca/firework/index_e.html

72h Hourly Maps at Ground Level - 12 UTC

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Click a Canadian region to zoom in

      

        


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By metmike - June 28, 2023, 1:53 p.m.
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This is smoke coming from the wildfires in E.Canada. The rain and cooler temperatures have helped put out some of the wildfires in W.Canada. 

Over 80 million people from the Midwest to the East Coast are under air quality alerts as smoke from Canadian wildfires drifts to the US

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/27/us/canada-wildfire-smoke-great-lakes/index.html


By metmike - June 28, 2023, 2 p.m.
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The number of wildfires this year has already broken the all time record in Canada and that will be obliterated by the of the year. This is a clear example of natural variation, as proven below.



Here's an example of the BS, using words and junk science:

Record Pollution and Heat Herald a Season of Climate Extremes

Scientists have long warned that global warming will increase the chance of severe wildfires like those burning across Canada and heat waves like the one smothering Puerto Rico.https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/08/climate/canada-wildfires-smoke-extreme-weather.html

How Canada's wildfires and air quality warnings are connected to climate change

Heat in Canada and changing climate contribute to fires and air pollution. 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/canadas-wildfires-air-quality-warnings-connected-climate-change/story?id=99905554

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Here's the authentic science using the data which defines the science:

Natural Resources Canada

https://cwfis.cfs.nrcan.gc.ca/ha/nfdb

Chart showing Number of Fires and Area Burned by Year


We should note that the 6 worst fire seasons in the last 4 decades were during the 1980's/90's BEFORE the fake climate crisis. Also note that the extremes are often defined by large spikes higher than the average. 

Regardless, if you want to use this data HONESTLY, it says the exact opposite of what the media is trying to sell about this current outbreak of wildfires caused almost entirely by natural variation(and humans setting the fires).

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 This can’t be repeated enough times:

It really boils down to this (Cliff Mass can be counted on as an elite source for using objective, authentic science)

https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2016/03/the-golden-rule-of-climate-extremes.html

The GoldenRule
 Considering the substantial confusion in the media about this critical issue, let me provide the GOLDENRULE OF CLIMATE EXTREMES ...


Here it is:
"The more extreme a climate or weather record is, the greater the contribution of natural variability.
Or to put it a different way, the larger or more unusual an extreme, the higher proportion of the extreme is due to natural variability."

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By an extremely wide margin, the main impact of increasing CO2, along with  warming of the planet by 1 deg. C so far is this:

DeathbyGreening:

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/69258/

By metmike - June 28, 2023, 2:10 p.m.
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More authentic science on wildfires:

Energy

Dems Seize On Wildfires To Demand Biden Declare A ‘Climate Emergency’

https://dailycaller.com/2023/06/08/dems-seize-on-wildfires-to-demand-biden-declare-a-climate-emergency/

Congressional Democrats have called on President Joe Biden to declare a “climate emergency,” citing wildfires in Canada that caused smoke to drift into the eastern United States, Bloomberg News reported Thursday.

“Millions of Americans are being exposed to toxic air due to climate change,” Democratic Rep. Ro Khanna of California tweeted. “@POTUS should declare a climate emergency.”

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This is a blatant lie, easy to prove as such with the data and authentic science below!

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/95312/#96058

Natural Resources Canada

https://cwfis.cfs.nrcan.gc.ca/ha/nfdb

Chart showing Number of Fires and Area Burned by Year

Climate Anxiety: Doomsday Cult or Mental Illness?

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/06/08/climate-anxiety-doomsday-cult-or-mental-illness/

 Finally a real expert telling us the truth about Covid19: Greta on CNN. Scaring and converting children into the climate crisis cult.  Eco-anxiety in children. Greta controlled as the United Nation's climate activist puppet. Failed predictions of the UN and past climate crisis religion high priests, like Al Gore. Showing the truth with actual data/observations vs telling people to listen to the fake science. May 2020. https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/52100/


NASA Detects Drop in Global Fires

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2017/nasa-detects-drop-in-global-fires

The area of land burned.

The global area of land burned each year declined by 24 percent between 1998 and 2015, according to analysis of satellite data by NASA scientists and their colleagues. The largest decline was seen across savannas in Africa, and due to changing livelihoods.

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                Real Manmade Wildfires            

                            Started by metmike - Nov. 21, 2021, 10:44 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/78164/


West Coast/Oregon fires            

                                      Started by metmike - Sept. 12, 2020, 2:48 a.m.     

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/59043/

                    

  California governor blames wildfires on climate 'emergency'             

                            33 responses |                

                Started by metmike - Sept. 14, 2020, 12:08 a.m.          

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/59093/

Good Climate News: Wildfire Trends Have Fallen Off Significantly Over the Recent Decades

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/06/11/good-climate-news-wildfire-trends-have-fallen-off-significantly-over-the-recent-decades/



    

What the Media Won’t Tell you About … Wildfires–Roger Pielke Jr


From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/06/11/what-the-media-wont-tell-you-about-wildfires-roger-pielke-jr/

https://rogerpielkejr.substack.com/p/what-the-media-wont-tell-you-about-783?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=119454&post_id=126926234&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email

 

As we have come to expect from Roger, this is another thorough, well researched and objective analysis. He makes the following points:

 

  • The IPCC has not detected or attributed fire occurrence or area burned to human-caused climate change
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  • Globally, emissions from wildfires has decreased globally over recent decades, as well as in many regions
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  • Canada wildfire trends show no increase in recent decades
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  • Wildfires used to be much more extensive in past centuries
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  • Wildfires are a part of the natural eco-system.

 

You can read the full analysis here.

        

                            There are over a dozen additional links in the story at the first link below.

You are being conned: Data, studies & UN IPCC all reveal Canadian fires not due to ‘climate change’ – ‘There has been a significant & continuing decline in the number of fires’

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/06/10/you-are-being-conned-data-studies-un-ipcc-all-reveal-canadian-fires-not-due-to-climate-change-there-has-been-a-significant-continuing-decline-in-the/


The Collapse of Climate-Related Deaths: Deaths have ‘fallen over 90% since 1920’


https://www.climatedepot.com/2017/10/17/fires-far-worse-last-century-claim-global-warming-causing-wildfires-goes-up-in-flames/



https://www.cfact.org/2017/10/17/fires-far-worse-last-century/


                                    

            

                

Note what happened in the 1930's during the Dust Bowl years in the Plains/Midwest when the drought extended across much of the country for much of the time.......all the way to the West Coast:

 https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/09/17/fire/

By metmike - June 28, 2023, 6:40 p.m.
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Most of the wildfires in W.Canada are under control or have been put out.

Red on the map below denotes an out of control wildfire. Yellow means under control/not expected to spread. Green means completely under control. 

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/3ffcc2d0ef3e4e0999b0cf8b636defa3

By metmike - July 10, 2023, 11:24 p.m.
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Musings on Forest Fires, Fuel Load, Dr. Ehrlich and the CO2Fertilization Effect Upon U. S. Forests

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/07/10/musings-on-forest-fires-fuel-load-dr-ehrlich-and-the-co2fertilization-effect-upon-u-s-forests/





When dealing with critical issues such as the appropriate response to our nation’s forest fire issue we need to be totally pragmatic about the thought process that goes into formulating a rational response.  We can continue to put the blame on the global warming issue, but the harsh reality is that the U.S. has already done a great deal to reduce our carbon emissions.  However, China, India and many lesser developed countries are going in the opposite direction.  Both China and India are continuing to build new coal-fired power plants and have no plans to stop this expansion until mid-century at the earliest. CO2 levels in the atmosphere will continue to rise at current rates for the foreseeable future.  However, our nation can take immediate action to reduce the fuel load problem, but we need to get started.  It will take a multi-pronged approach to work involving:

 

  1. Education of the public in the necessity of reducing our fuel loads and the ways in which we can do this in an environmentally friendly fashion.  The public needs to be made aware of:
    • Clear cutting is no longer necessary or desirable on most sites.  The alternative is selective harvesting where forests are thinned, focusing on species diversification, size distribution, removal of trees with insect or disease issues and wildlife issues as well as the reduction in the fire hazard.
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    • Thinning is a very expensive operation and we have millions of acres that need attention.  To raise the funds necessary to address the full scope of the issue we will need to harvest some merchantable timber to reduce the cost per acre.
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    • To have a competitive market for the merchantable wood component of the proposed thinning operations, we need to reestablish a modest forest products industry.  Much of our fuel load issue is a result of the elimination of most of our wood products industry in the 1980s.  Now we currently import about $20 billion dollars-worth of wood products annually.  With farm goods the mantra is to buy locally; should not the same philosophy apply to forest products?
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    • The public needs to be made aware of the scope of the fuel load problem.  Most of our citizens are quite convinced that both forested acreage and net growing stock have been in a dramatic decline over the past seven decades, when the reality is forested acreage is up slightly, and net growing stock has increased by 60%.  The reality is dramatically different from the public’s perception; something that needs to be addressed to accomplish a solution.
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  3. A major factor that also needs to be addressed is the interference created by our legal system, where anyone or any group can stop a harvesting project on federal land for the small price of filing a lawsuit. This problem is what created this problem in the first place, commencing in the 1970s and 1980s. The health issues that we will face if we continue on our current path make something like a war powers act designated by Congress necessary so a rational plan can be created and implemented without continued delay and interference. The alternative is to repeat the fire conditions we experienced prior to the 1950s and for much of our prior history.

 

Between 1953 and 2017 (volume at the last USFS inventory) the total growing stock on all ownerships has increased by 369,354 million cubic feet. Now, let’s examine the fuel load issue going forward. Since 1953 our timber base has been growing at 1.56% per year, adding 5,771 million cubic feet each year.  If our forests were to simply keep growing at that rate in another 64 years our total net growing stock would reach 1,354,592 million cubic feet.  At these levels, we would be potentially facing the average burned area shown on the left side of Figure 1, and 5 times greater than anything seen recently.

 

However, we are living in a much different climatic situation today, one that could make the fire situation even more dire.  Yes, we do get modestly higher temperatures with increased greenhouse gases, but with higher CO2 levels there comes an effect termed CO2 fertilization.  From your high school botany or biology class we have the formula for photosynthesis:

 

  At 430 ppm CO2 in the atmosphere currently most terrestrial plants are just starting to get in their happy zone.  As mentioned above, the optimum CO2 levels for most plant species is between 800 and 1000 ppm


Yields Per Acre:  Comparison of Decade of 1950s to Most Recent Decade. 


Conclusion:  The CO2 fertilization effect is both real and substantial in both beneficial and harmful ways.  The United States can do very little to reduce CO2 emissions in the short term. However, if we move promptly we can do a great deal to contain the future impact that CFE will have on our forest’s fuel load, and if done properly can also create jobs and provide needed forest products and greatly reduce the negative effects of rampant forest fires.

By metmike - July 10, 2023, 11:31 p.m.
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Tony Heller@TonyClimate

#CliateScam cultists create a fake correlation between burn area and CO2, by hiding all the data before 1983

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By metmike - July 10, 2023, 11:33 p.m.
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Wei. Zhang@WeiZhangAtmos

And that’s just the United States. After all, isn’t this a global issue? The global trend in wildfire is well documented in the data and literature.

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By metmike - July 10, 2023, 11:49 p.m.
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