Biden corruption/coverup 10+ times worse than Watergate
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Started by metmike - June 9, 2023, 8 p.m.

Previous thread was getting pretty long:


                Press Conference on Biden Investigation 5-10-23            

                            53 responses 

                Started by metmike - May 9, 2023, 12:27 a.m.        

    https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/95063/


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                Biden cover ups            

                            34 responses |       

                Started by metmike - April 23, 2023, 1:25 p.m. 

    https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/94709/





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By metmike - June 9, 2023, 8:08 p.m.
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The absurdity of this is well  beyond what I thought could ever happen in the United States.

 For this family to get away with what clearly was blatant corruption. The DOJ looks the other way and MSM defends them or covers it up/censors it. Of course people from the same party usually defend their own.

Biden dismisses ‘malarkey’ FBI tip claiming he played a role in Burisma bribe scheme: ‘Where’s the money?’

https://nypost.com/2023/06/08/fbi-tip-says-burisma-bribed-bidens-prez-asks-wheres-the-money/

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What country do we live in??? The guy in the White House right now is the most corrupt president in history........by an extremely wide margin!

By metmike - June 12, 2023, 1:43 p.m.
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Don’t Let Hunter Biden Off the Hook

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/06/dont-let-hunter-biden-off-the-hook/

"without the people and penalties in place to set the boundaries of acceptable behavior, society would devolve into mass chaos and despair.

It seems we may already be there."

By mcfarm - June 12, 2023, 6:09 p.m.
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Senator Grassley now claims he has audio of Burisma exc's and Biden

By 12345 - June 12, 2023, 6:15 p.m.
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I HIGHLY DOUBT GRASSLEY WOULD EVER NOT TELL THE TRUTH.

HE HAS BEEN MY FAVORITE, IN ALL OF CONGRESS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS

By metmike - June 12, 2023, 11:30 p.m.
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Agree that Grassley is a straight shooter!

Grassley: Burisma executive who allegedly paid Biden has audio recordings of conversations with Joe, Hunter

 Biden was allegedly paid $5M by a high-level Burisma executive as part of a bribery scheme

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/grassley-burisma-executive-who-allegedly-paid-biden-has-audio-recordings-of-conversations-with-joe-hunter


By metmike - June 12, 2023, 11:46 p.m.
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Hunter Biden investigation: Blinken may have played a bigger role in letter to discredit laptop                  

by Jerry Dunleavy, Justice Department Reporter |  

 June 12, 2023 09:03 PM

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/justice/blinken-bigger-role-hunter-biden-laptop-letter-testimony


Burisma boss in alleged Biden bribe scheme claims to have 15 taped conversations with Hunter, 2 with Joe: Grassley

https://nypost.com/2023/06/12/burisma-boss-in-alleged-biden-bribe-scheme-claims-to-have-15-taped-conversations-with-hunter-2-with-joe-grassley/

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It's been stated here that the NY Post is not credible and I've stated numerous times that the hosts of certain Fox in the evening shows are not credible.

And we're told that this is entirely political, coming from the Rs.

However, they are right sometimes. This is one of those times.

Who did we expect to report the truth about blatant Biden corruption?

The Biden cheerleaders.........MSM and left? The justice department???

However, it's getting tougher and tougher and tougher to cover this up and try to censor the truth!





By mcfarm - June 13, 2023, 6:45 a.m.
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and now comes this news. Seems these audio tapes were part of the big fight over the 1023 that Grassley and the senate charged the FBI with contempt over. Guess what, that same FBI and its director,{the ever more crooked Chris Wray} then with held these audio tapes when they claimed to of turned over the 1023's. Someone and several someones need to go to jail now. This reached long ago beyond ridiculous behavior from the FBI and DOJ

By metmike - June 13, 2023, 2:21 p.m.
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Chuck Grassley Teases Damning Audio Recordings of Biden

https://www.newsweek.com/chuck-grassley-teases-damning-audio-recordings-biden-1806139

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_White_House_tapes

The Nixon White House tapes are audio recordings of conversations between U.S. President Richard Nixon and Nixon administration officials, Nixon family members, and White House staff, produced between 1971 and 1973.[1]

In February 1971, a sound-activated taping system was installed in the Oval Office, including in Nixon's Wilson desk, using Sony TC-800B open-reel tape recorders[2] to capture audio transmitted by telephone taps and concealed microphones.[3] The system was expanded to include other rooms within the White House and Camp David.[3] The system was turned off on July 18, 1973, two days after it became public knowledge as a result of the U.S. Senate Watergate Committee hearings.[3] Nixon was not the first president to record his White House conversations; President Franklin D. Roosevelt recorded Oval Office press conferences for a short period in 1940.[4]

The tapes' existence came to light during the Watergate scandal of 1973 and 1974, when the system was mentioned during the televised testimony of White House aide Alexander Butterfield before the U.S. Senate Watergate Committee.[5] Nixon's refusal of a congressional subpoena to release the tapes was the basis for an article of impeachment against Nixon, and led to his subsequent resignation on August 9, 1974.

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In the 1970s the DOJ was much less biased and objectively applied the laws. The MSM leaned liberal but at least journalists were honest and professional and told both sides. Even crooked politicians had enough integrity/ethical standards to resign when they got busted. 

In 2023, that's no longer true so its impossible to know how far all these sources will go as they double, triple and quadruple down on the lies/cover ups and censoring of the Biden crime family. 

One way to know is when the American people get fed up enough with this bullshit and demand those SOB's resign or get held accountable instead of letting ourselves be told what to think by our favorite sources that tell us what we want to hear. 

In the absence of that...........they will continue to use the current dysfunctional, divisive dynamics of the system to play us and protect their self serving interests. 

By metmike - June 13, 2023, 5:43 p.m.
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Here is 2023, this is the reaction by those still doing summer saults and back flips to twist the information so it ALWAYS protects the Bidens. That is exactly what makes it 10+ times worse than Watergate!

From the WOP today:

The GOP ‘bribery’ allegations against Biden remain transparently thin

Analysis by  National columnist

Published June 13, 2023 at 10:40 a.m. EDT

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/06/13/gop-biden-allegation-analysis/

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Again, the MSM, dems and and justice department will quadruple down or more to keep protecting the Biden's. They actually have the power to repackage the information and spin it like this guy above does AND COLLUDE with each other to control the mainstream narrative.

What comes after quadruple? I thought this was interesting as we are into some of these right now. The things that you can learn from the internet are amazing!

Names for tuples of specific lengths

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuple#Tuples_as_nested_ordered_pairs

Tuple length,                     n                nNameAlternative names
0empty tuplenull tuple[7] / empty sequence / unit / none left
1monuplesingle / singleton / monad
2coupledouble / ordered pair / two-ple / twin / dual / duad / dyad / twosome
3tripletreble / triplet / triad / ordered triple / threesome
4quadruplequad / tetrad / quartet / quadruplet
5quintuplepentuple / quint / pentad
6sextuplehextuple / hexad
7septupleheptuple / heptad
8octupleocta / octet / octad / octuplet
9nonuplenonad / ennead
10decupledecad / decade (antiquated)
11undecuplehendecuple / hendecad
12duodecupledozen / duodecad
13tredecuplebaker's dozen
14quattuordecupledouble septuple
15quindecupletriple quintuple
16sexdecuplequadruple quadruple
17septendecupleN/A
18octodecupleDouble Nonuple
19novemdecupleN/A
20vigintupleQuadruple Quintuple
21unvigintupleTriple Septuple



By 12345 - June 13, 2023, 6:26 p.m.
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By metmike - June 15, 2023, 4:58 p.m.
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Poll: Majority of Americans Believe Biden Family Received Foreign Money to Impact Policy

https://www.farsnews.ir/en/news/14020325000465/Pll-Majriy-f-Americans-Believe-Biden-Family-Received-Freign-Mney-


NY times:

What We Know and Don’t About Hunter Biden and a Laptop

President Trump’s allies have promoted claims of corruption aimed at the former vice president’s son in an effort to damage the Biden campaign.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/22/us/politics/hunter-biden-laptop.html


Allegation on Biden Prompts Pushback From Social Media Companies

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/14/us/politics/hunter-biden-ukraine-facebook-twitter.html

Joe Biden’s campaign rejected assertions made in a published report that were based on unverified material from Trump allies. Facebook and Twitter found the story dubious enough to limit access to it on their platform.

Republican Inquiry Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by Biden

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/us/politics/biden-inquiry-republicans-johnson.html

The report delivered on Wednesday appeared to be little more than a rehashing of unproven allegations that echoed a Russian disinformation campaign.

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                            Hunter Biden story is Russian disinformation, dozens of former intel officials say.
https://sais.jhu.edu/news-press/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinformation-dozens-former-intel-officials-say


Now that Joe Biden’s president, the Times finally admits: Hunter’s laptop is real

https://nypost.com/2022/03/17/the-times-finally-admits-hunter-bidens-laptop-is-real/

Spies who lie: 51 ‘intelligence’ experts refuse to apologize for discrediting true Hunter Biden story

https://nypost.com/2022/03/18/intelligence-experts-refuse-to-apologize-for-smearing-hunter-biden-story/


Biden campaign, Blinken orchestrated intel letter to discredit Hunter Biden laptop story, ex-CIA official says

https://judiciary.house.gov/media/in-the-news/biden-campaign-blinken-orchestrated-intel-letter-discredit-hunter-biden-laptop


By metmike - June 16, 2023, 2:25 p.m.
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Hunter Biden associate Devon Archer in talks to dish about alleged $10 million bribe from Ukraine  

 June 15, 2023

https://nypost.com/2023/06/15/hunter-biden-associate-devon-archer-to-dish-on-10-million-bribe/

By metmike - June 16, 2023, 10:01 p.m.
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Bidens COERCED Bursima Head Into $10M Bribery Scandal, Per FBI Source: Report  

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwonLYqKc80

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You have to be deaf, blind,  in denial or going to news sources telling you what you want to believe to not see how obvious it is that the Biden's reaped some huge pay days with Joe being the ONLY reason for the influence peddling schemes.

As if  VP Joe being the point man from the US for monitoring Ukrainian corruption and controlling 1 billion dollars of foreign aid was just a coincidence to his son, Hunter suddenly getting a high paid position of a natural gas board in Ukraine in an industry where he had 0 experience. Hunters previous experience was a decade as a lobbyist in the US. If you know anything about the lobbyist profession, it's basically legal bribery of politicians using  money from industries that gift it to politicians so the politicians will make favorable decisions that are good for those industries.

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With Hunter getting this job from nepotism like that, (getting a family member a job they don't qualify for) is NOT illegal or even unethical in most cases. My wife, Debbie has gotten around 10 family members jobs over the last 3 decades based on nepotism. Both our sons, son in law, daughter in law, her brother and others worked for her at various times.

When her Dad died suddenly in 2002, she actually created a new job for her mom at a machine shop that we owned and she ran. Shirley, her mom was a stay at home mom NOT working most of her life. When her husband died unexpectedly, the poor lady was devastated and left living in a house(that we bought them in 1991) by herself.

So Deb created a new job for her mom answering the phone at the machine shop  when previously, that was part of the job of the person managing production. .......who was very capable of doing it and his other responsibilities.

So Shirley interacted with numerous people for 8 hours, a couple were also our family members working there, as well as customers instead of sitting at home being depressed over the loss of her husband of 5 decades. At home, she would bake cookies and make treats to bring into work for the employees.

That's the type of nepotism which unselfish, compassionate human beings use to help others.......that just happen to be family members because they are extremely familiar with a situation in which they can extend a helping hand to a person struggling.

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Hunter was clearly struggling too but in a different way because of his own  totally self inflicted destructive behavior using drugs and breaking laws.  Joe wanted to help him out but instead of doing what's best for Hunter to recover and having Hunter held accountable for unacceptable behavior.......tough love and what's best for the addict...he  not only used nepotism by promoting him to a job he didn't earn but blatantly enabled him by putting him in a position to exploit joe's power and corruption, using illegal/corrupt unregistered foreign lobbyist schemes........which was his REAL area of expertise, learned from a decade of being a legal lobbyist in the US.

But now, with no laws or regulations and living in one of the most corrupt countries in the world, well known for paying bribes as an excepted business practice. And with Joe, the corrupt politician being the person the lobbying bribes were clearly intended to influence. This obviously included US money/aid  to Ukraine businesses that Joe controlled. We really don't know what else Joe did for the rest of the multiple millions, that included the same corrupt foreign lobbying principles which were 100% illegal. Multiple bank accounts and shell companies representing non existing businesses that produced nothing and meant to launder corrupt money have no other explanation or the Bidens would have provided it.

They were corrupt foreign lobbying bribes, with Hunter(the smartest man Joe knows) setting up all the dynamics to execute the almost impossible to track very brilliant schemes. These were repeated using the same methods numerous times. Every time, the objective was to enrich the Biden family with dirty money.

When a US politician takes lobby money, there are rules and regulations that control the dynamic to minimize blatant bribery. Same thing with foreign lobby money.

However, what the Biden's did was blatantly illegal. For one thing, Hunter wasn't registered as a foreign lobbyist that qualified him to do transactions related to this field even if they were legal(in the US he was registered as a lobbyist, outside the US-NO). The thing that made it high end blatant corruption by every standard is that the money went into the Biden family's PERSONAL ACCOUNTS and not Joe Biden's campaign fund or some other political or otherwise legal  account/fund that qualifies to receive contributions from outside sources.

In every way, shape and form these were illegal crimes, exploiting Joe's power and Hunter's  elite level expertise to apply the illegal lobbying mentality dynamics that he was skilled at/trained for to accomplish the one and only objective....... enrich the Biden family with many millions from these bribes. This means that Joe must have done something for this money.

There is no way people give you many millions for no reason. So VP Joe Biden was clearly compromised and did something for foreign countries, at the expense of the US. It could have been to assist corruption in Ukraine with US aid/money from tax payers instead of doing his job as VP with tax payer money and using it to FIGHT blatant corruption in Ukraine.

This happened in a couple of other countries too using similar schemes. Biden family gets millions for nothing laundered thru numerous shell companies. 

We really don't know what these corrupt foreign entities paid Joe to do but they paid him to do something. 

The saddest thing is that we know that Joe loves Hunter deeply and would do anything......did do anything for him but what he did was the WORST thing possible for his son's addiction and recovery. 

It's well known by addiction experts and therapists that family members must exercise tough love and set rules that avoid enabling their addicted loved one in order for that addicted family member to have their best chance to recover. 

What Joe Biden did for/with his son, Hunter was a world class quinnessential example of enabling if there ever was one.

Instead of pulling out the rug and support of his drug use and law breaking, forcing Hunter to be held accountable and to reconcile his behavior with acceptable standards, Joe did the 100% opposite.

He placed Hunter in one of the worlds most corrupt environments and took away all the rules, while playing the key role, encouraging him, rewarding him  and going along with his schemes/bribes to enrich the Biden family.  

At the same time,  protecting him from investigations and consequences. This is the recipe for maximum  temptation and positive incentive to continue to abuse drugs and an illegal life style that showered him  with unlimited amounts of money and zero accountability to laws.

The contents of the laptop describe in unbelievable detail this law breaking, illegal drug abusing lifestyle for numerous years with continued impunity from rules and laws with Joes protection/enabling and partnership To enrich the Biden family.

The most pathetic thing about it is that we know the negative impact that this had on Hunter but Joe used this to enrich himself and the rest of the Bidens at the expense of enabling Hunter, while convincing himself that he was doing this out of love.

Nobody can say what was in Joe's heart except Joe but we have to assume that he loves his son tremendously.  You can see it that crystal clearly by what he says.

So the saddest thing for all of us was what Joe did to the American people and his country. 

However, Joe  has said several times  that Hunter is the smartest man that he knows and repeatedly that he's very proud of him.

 Clearly a high end COMPLIMENT based on Hunter's role in the illegal Biden crime family schemes. Truth is, Joe is right that Hunter was incredibly brilliant to pull this off.  

The reality is, regardless of his love for Hunter, Joe created a really, really messed up son by encouraging him to violate laws in order to enrich his family, then protected him from consequences that every other US citizen would have paid......which would have IMMEDIATELY caused the unacceptable behavior to end!

only somebody that lacks personal ethics would admire, compliment and encourage their son to exploit the impunity they provide them with for nefarious, self enrichment schemes.

that impunity includes protection from the justice department, the MSM and D party.

this is what makes it 10+ times worse than Watergate when the corruption, which was nowhere close to this bad was held accountable by those same entities today that are intentionally covering it up.

 

Bribery vs. Lobbying: What's the Difference?

https://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0912/the-differences-between-bribery-and-lobbying.aspx

Bribery and lobbying are often conjoined in the public mind: Critics of lobbying suggest that it's bribery in a suit. While both seek a favorable outcome, the two remain distinct practices. Bribery is considered an effort to buy power; paying to guarantee a certain result; lobbying is considered an effort to influence power, often by offering contributions.

One key difference is that bribery is considered illegal, while lobbying is not.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Agents_Registration_Act

The Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) (22 U.S.C. § 611 et seq.) is a United States law that imposes public disclosure obligations on persons representing foreign interests.[1][2] It requires "foreign agents"—defined as individuals or entities engaged in domestic lobbying or advocacy for foreign governments, organizations, or persons ("foreign principals")—to register with the Department of Justice (DOJ) and disclose their relationship, activities, and related financial compensation.[2]

FARA does not prohibit lobbying for foreign interests, nor does it ban or restrict any specific activities.[3] Its explicit purpose is to promote transparency with respect to foreign influence over American public opinion, policy, and laws; to that end, the DOJ is required to make such information publicly available.[4] FARA was enacted in 1938 primarily to counter Nazi propaganda,[5][6] with an initial focus on criminal prosecution of subversive activities; since 1966, enforcement has shifted mostly to civil penalties and voluntary compliance.[7]

For most of its existence, FARA was relatively obscure and rarely invoked;[8] since 2017, the law has been enforced with far greater regularity and intensity, particularly against officials connected to the Trump administration.[7][9] Subsequent high-profile indictments and convictions under FARA have prompted greater public, political, and legal scrutiny, including calls for reform.            

                 
                      

Enabling Behaviors

https://www.uphs.upenn.edu/addiction/berman/family/enabling.html
By metmike - June 17, 2023, 9:46 a.m.
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'The Big Guy' sure is acting guilty

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-big-guy-sure-is-acting-guilty

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We should not lose sight of the fact that Hunter's profession before Joe got him the job on the board of the energy company in Ukraine trained him as a skilled lobbyist for a decade. He applied those skills when he went to Ukraine, starting his new corrupt business of influence peddling for his powerful VP father, Joe Biden!



Employment History

Biden, Robert Hunter

https://www.opensecrets.org/revolving/rev_summary.php?id=20130


          


Burisma Holdings

See also: Individual Lobbying Profile

Employment Timeline


Hunter Biden almost certainly broke foreign lobbying laws: experts

https://nypost.com/2022/07/23/hunter-biden-almost-certainly-broke-foreign-lobbying-laws-experts/


Hunter Biden Lobbied State Department in 2016 on Behalf of Corrupt Romanian National, Records Show

Romanian real estate tycoon Gabriel Popoviciu made more than $1 million in wire payments to Hunter Biden

https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/hunter-biden-lobbied-state-department-in-2016-on-behalf-of-corrupt-romanian-national-records-show/