Zero Hedge??? for anybody
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Started by wglassfo - Jan. 29, 2022, 11:48 a.m.

I have had two posters that I remember condemn Zero Hedge as not the most reliable source of information

I looked at the various topics on Zero Hedge and although not as  many financial topics as usual, I think you will find todays collection of articles mostly the same as usual. I read some but not all

My question is for anybody, especially those who condemn this site to tell  me which articles are false or at least biased

I have known some posters to refuse to even look at a site as the record of accuracy deems it unworthy of scrutiny

Would you  please take the time and show me why Zero Hedge is not the web site for information

I am not saying every article over time is accurate or unbiased but conversely I think Zero Hedge beats CNN by a a lot

But on the other hand maybe most information web sites would beat CNN

I suppose all things depend on your personal view point

I have noticed not any two farmers follow exactly the same production methods as their neighbours

If one method was so much better then everybody would do the same

Possibly in some locations, soil terrain etc. make the same  production methods the same but around here everybody is trying to find what works the best. Golly the arguments over my system vs your system

By metmike - Jan. 29, 2022, 1:11 p.m.
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So you don't like me criticizing your near zero credibility source and now, because you know that this place is a far right echo chamber wannabee(with only metmike preventing that) .......are taking your case to the rest of the gang that uses the exact same REALLY REALLY bad sources to see if you can generate some support for your horrible source.

I spent much of the Summer and Fall debunking many hundreds of Gunters MISinformation from REALLY, REALLY bad sources and he ignored almost all the facts/data and just kept going back to the same sources to get his delusional thought process reinforced.

I don't have more hundreds of hours to waste debunking each article brought here from far right MISinformation sources because there are more of you and thousands more MISinformation articles so that it would take a team of 10 metmike's to debunk all of them.

Case in point. This post by Gunter. Do you really think that I have the time to read 150 articles from totally crap sources and then debunk all the crap in them?

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                Started by GunterK - Aug. 7, 2021, 3:43 p.m.    

I'm trying to use MarketForum to provide honest information base on authentic evidence, facts, science and truth and you guys are basically trying to oppose it and apply a mob/group think mentality because you outnumber me and go to ONLY FAR RIGHT SITES to get your information.

To make you happy Wayne, I will provide more information about Zero Hedge for you. For your information, I was a regular reader there up until around 3 years ago, which is when I OFTEN found that guy was stating bs in many fact checks.

Not always bs but the only way that I could tell(because he knew more than me and everybody else reading) was by doing the research and fact checking and cow, much of what he's saying is just a delusional conspiracy theory.

Any entity that does that just a few times is completely dishonest.  However, since that time when I realized some of his stuff was like that...... it appears to have become a more defining trait of that sites stuff.

There are numerous people that post with that name there..its not just 1 person, apparently.

By metmike - Jan. 29, 2022, 1:52 p.m.
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Like I said, I was a regular reading of Zero Hedge until a few years ago, since then, I will see a few articles each month...... so I know them extremely well.

They get a few things right still but their delusional stuff has taken over. 

Here's more for you:

Zero Hedge (or ZeroHedge)[b] is a far-right[12] libertarian[17] financial blog,[13][14] presenting staff-written articles and aggregating news and opinions from external sources.[18] Zero Hedge, per its motto,[a] is bearish in its investment outlook and analysis, often deriving from its adherence to the Austrian School of economics and credit cycles.[22] While often labeled as a financial permabear,[23][24] Zero Hedge has also been described as a source of "cutting-edge news, rumors and gossip in the financial industry".[25]

Zero Hedge
ZeroHedge logo.svgMotto: On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero[a]
Type of site
  • Capital markets finance blog
  • News and political opinion
Available inEnglish
OwnerABC Media Limited (Bulgaria)[1]
Created byDaniel Ivandjiiski
  • Daniel Ivandjiiski
  • Tim Backshall
CommercialYes (free content, paid advertising)
RegistrationOptional. Registration is required to post comments.
Launched9 January 2009; 13 years ago[2]
Current statusOnline

Over time, Zero Hedge expanded into non-financial analysis,[c] including conspiracy theories and fringe rhetoric[27] associated with the US radical right,[14][28] the alt-right,[29][30][31] and a pro-Russian bias.[1][32][33][34] Zero Hedge's non-financial commentary has led to a number of site bans by various global social media platforms, although its 2019 Facebook ban[35][36] and 2020 Twitter ban were later reversed.[14][37]

Zero Hedge in-house content is posted under the pseudonym "Tyler Durden"; the founder and main editor was identified as Daniel Ivandjiiski.[26]

By metmike - Jan. 29, 2022, 2:04 p.m.
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Profile photo for Tom GrovesTom Groves, ex Lehman, ex Barcap, ex Nomura, ex Hedge Fund, ex credit traderAnswered Mar 14, 2018 · Upvoted by Laurent Bernut, 16 yrs in alternative finance, Fidelity short-seller, HF analyst, Algo trader

Originally Answered: Has ZeroHedge been more right or wrong in its calls?

ZH is constantly wrong. They’ve probably called the top of the market hundreds of times in the last decade.


They hide that by the use of various devices -

  • They use snide innuendo rather than clear statements
  • They imply things rather than stating them outright
  • They are vague rather than precise
  • They hint at inside knowledge that suggests that they know more than you, so even if you think they’re wrong they’re actually right
  • They make claims that cannot be proven or, more pertinently disproven
  • They manipulate data and charts to make you think that significant trends or movements are happening when they aren’t

The site is there to push an agenda. Some of the things they write are interesting and some are true. But their track record on predictions is horrible.

By metmike - Jan. 29, 2022, 2:18 p.m.
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On 22 September 2021, OffGuardian published an article, which was reprinted by ZeroHedge and shared by other websites like InfoWars, listing 30 claims related to COVID-19. These articles, which went viral, received altogether more than 19,000 interactions on social media platforms including Facebook and Reddit, including more than 11,000 shares, according to social media analytics tool CrowdTangle.

Although the article claimed to list “30 facts” about COVID-19, several of these “facts” are inaccurate and/or misleading, and many among them were previously debunked by Health Feedback and other fact-checkers, as we explain below. This review examines several key claims made in the articles.

metmike: This was mostly bs, some of it blatant and what they are referring to above is posted below.

30 Facts You Need To Know: A COVID Cribsheet

Tyler Durden's Photoby Tyler DurdenSunday, Sep 26, 2021 - 07:00 AM

Authored by Kit Knightly via,

You asked for it, so we made it. A collection of all the arguments you’ll ever need.

By metmike - Jan. 30, 2022, 12:25 p.m.
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"I suppose all things depend on your personal view point

I have noticed not any two farmers follow exactly the same production methods as their neighbours

If one method was so much better then everybody would do the same

Possibly in some locations, soil terrain etc. make the same  production methods the same but around here everybody is trying to find what works the best. Golly the arguments over my system vs your system"


That example works in many realms however, let's use math to explain Zero Hedge and many far right sites with MISinformation.

In math, you can get to 100 by using countless authentic combinations of  numbers and addition problems.

50+50, 25+25+25+25, 10+10+10+10+10+10+10+10+10+10 =100.

They all add up to 100 and your example of farmers adjusting farming techniques to accommodate the local conditions would be the different math problems above. Taking different paths to GET TO 100. All of them represent valid, verifiable math.

Here's where the MISinformation sites differ from that completely.

They manufacture the numbers and try to convince you that they add up to 100 based on MISinformation.

39+43=100  12+12+12+12 =100   13+13+13+13+13+13+13+13+13+13=100

You look at it and say "hey, its just another opinion and another way to get to 100!

We should consider all opinions, this is very true.

But what's happening here is that  you are really  justifying the belief in the WRONG opinions that use MISinformation illustrated by those last 3 math problems that show what's REALLY going on. 

Considering ALL opinions from the get go is really good.

However, the ones that represent MISinformation MUST be totally discarded.

The sources that continually and intentionally provide proven MISinformation on a regular basis should never be used as a main source.......even though/when they get some things right.

You can never tell when the are telling the truth..........which is sometimes and when they are lying...........which is at other times.

Just because they told the truth about some things doesn't change that.

By wglassfo - Jan. 30, 2022, 2:10 p.m.
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There is an article in ZERO Hedge which I find well written,  and well worth the time to read

I would advise those who have this unreasonable agenda against Zero Hedge to take the time and read 

"Corporate Media and Big Tech align against #Freedom Convoy"

By metmike - Jan. 30, 2022, 4:51 p.m.
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Here's the link to your article Wayne.

"Corporate Media and Big Tech align against #Freedom Convoy"

Again, I'm not censoring the sources or discussion on topics from them.

You obviously are going to those sources no matter what some scientist/trader/moderator from Indiana states.

But I will still  continue to try to help you out with facts about those sources.

Maybe, one day you'll come here will suddenly hit you!

By wglassfo - Jan. 30, 2022, 5:14 p.m.
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How you can twist your answer into any connection with my post is beyond the realm of normal people thinking

You always need to shout the loudest and have the last word

Even if you must choose your own topic as an answer

For some reason you have become illogical as of late

By metmike - Jan. 30, 2022, 6:16 p.m.
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You can have the final word here too Wayne, just like I gave it to you here:

No additional comments except that I hope everything is ok with you.