Trumps Gross Letter to Epstein 9-8-25
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Started by metmike - Sept. 8, 2025, 8:40 p.m.

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                By metmike - Sept. 8, 2025, 7:06 p.m.            

            


Johnson says he didn’t use ‘right terminology’ in calling Trump an Epstein ‘informant‘

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/09/08/congress/mike-johnson-donald-trump-epstein-informant-00550679

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Dang, Plan E failed just like plans A-B-C-D, so now its on to plan F  

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OH, OH!

His birthday letter to best friend jeffrey Epstein just got released, completely contradicted everything that Donald Trump has stated about this.

 

From the Wall Street Journal:

Epstein Birthday Letter With Trump’s Signature Revealed

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/epstein-birthday-book-congress-9d79ab34?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=ASWzDAhTmyuA6y6eICz_nlwPMIqBo6gV7YqjEroYXl79KSvFP5dF1VlyFZymUFpNB1A%3D&gaa_ts=68bf5d93&gaa_sig=bSJwOOp5O-AN96nCRmwZtKA5AMKYRqrKSkvNFkgw3HHzaNftTouU09Ng4s4ZtRnegstLRFTyTL1TfQA_YcrWaw%3D%3D

The 2003 birthday book also includes a letter that references Trump with a crude joke about a woman from another Epstein associate

Plan F is not going to help with  damage control to this or plans G-H.................X-Y-Z. 

Trump has previously stated(after Epstein got busted) that "I was not a fan of his" and "I kicked him out of Mar-a-lago for being a creep"

The actual words from Trump above as well as the facts about them hanging out together for 15 years, picking up females together tell a completely different story.

"We have certain things in common, Jeffrey, Yes we do, come to think of it. Donald"

"As a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time i saw you. Donald"

"A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy Birthday--and may every day be another wonderful secret"

Donald J. Trump

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Those were Donald J. Trumps words to his best friend(according to Epstein) after 15 years of them hanging out together picking up woman AND UNDER AGE GIRLS!!!!

On what planet could hanging out with the world's most famous pedophile  for 15 years, sharing their love and appreciation for young females together that includes a letter and public statements like this mean that he somehow had no idea what Epstein was doing that entire time and that he wasn't partaking with him????

OF COURSE HE WAS!!!!

Again, this was the period BEFORE Epstein started his under age girls sex trafficking ring.

I am not saying that Trump was one of those rich and powerful clients. It was the 15 years BEFORE THAT when he and Epstein were best friends and  female predator's tag team! Not 1 iota of doubt of that in my mind based on overwhelming, legally admissible circumstantial evidence.

The facts and timeline of Trump and Epstein’s falling out

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/the-facts-and-timeline-of-trump-and-epsteins-falling-out


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By metmike - Sept. 8, 2025, 9:01 p.m.
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The Atlantic

The Epstein Letter Is Real, and It’s Bad

Jonathan Chait

By metmike - Sept. 8, 2025, 9:17 p.m.
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JD Vance calls WSJ report about Trump letter to Epstein 'bulls**t'


by RAY LEWIS | The National News Desk

Fri, July 18th 2025 at 2:55 PM


@JDVance

Forgive my language but this story is complete and utter bullshit. The WSJ should be ashamed for publishing it.  Where is this letter? Would you be shocked to learn they never showed it to us before publishing it? Does anyone honestly believe this sounds like Donald Trump?

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Answer: 

1. Here is the letter!

2. It sounds exactly like Predator Trump in that era. EXACTLY!

3. Let's see who is more reliable. The Wall Street Journal WITH THE PROFOUND EVIDENCE IN FRONT OF OUR EYES or Donald Trump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_or_misleading_statements_by_Donald_Trump


The Rs want us to believe that this letter FROM THE EPSTEIN ESTATE (with all the other cards/letters that are authentic) from many years ago was manufactured by Jeffrey Epstein before Trump was even president.

Why would Epstein do that????

CNN compared this signature to many others from that time frame and they are exactly the same. 

Chance of this letter coming from Trump?

100.00%

By metmike - Sept. 8, 2025, 9:43 p.m.
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Trump’s Epstein letter denial just suffered another huge blow    

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/08/politics/trump-epstein-letter-signature

            The key fact here is that this comes from Epstein’s estate. In other words, for this letter to have been fake, someone would have had to plant it in Epstein’s possessions a long time ago, somehow.    

                But while Trump’s official signature often looks more jagged than the loopier “Donald” on the Epstein birthday letter, there are many examples of him signing his name in a similar way around the period in question.    

          

     A photo of an inscription in a copy of Donald Trump's book "Trump: The Art of the Comeback" that belonged to Jeffrey Epstein. President Trump's name appeared on a contributor list for a book celebrating the 50th birthday of the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein, evidence that he participated in the collection even as he denied that he signed a sexually suggestive note and drawing.                     

    A photo of an inscription in a copy of Donald Trump's book "Trump: The Art of the Comeback" that belonged to Jeffrey Epstein. President Trump's name appeared on a contributor list for a book celebrating the 50th birthday of the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein, evidence that he participated in the collection even as he denied that he signed a sexually suggestive note and drawing.           

Alessandra Montalto/The New York Times/Redux
                   

            There’s a 1996 letter to then-New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani. There’s a 1995 letter to a member of a local Palm Beach commission. There’s a 1999 letter to former CNN host Larry King. There’s a 1984 letter to the executive editor of the New York Times, A.M. Rosenthal. Former MSNBC host Keith Olbermann on Monday produced a 2014 letter he received. There’s even an inscription from 1997 in a Trump book that Epstein owned.       

            All feature that loopier style, followed by a long tail coming off the final “d” in Trump’s first name.    

By metmike - Sept. 8, 2025, 9:45 p.m.
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Trump Says It’s Not His Signature. But Personal Letters Look Similar.

Donald Trump’s signature has evolved over the years, but when signing just his first name, he often includes the same flourish at the end.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/08/us/politics/trump-signature-epstein-letter.html

By metmike - Sept. 8, 2025, 9:50 p.m.
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MAGA claims Trump signature in Epstein birthday book is fake

https://www.axios.com/2025/09/08/trump-epstein-signature-birthday-book



Sometimes, it feels like we are living in the Twilight Zone  but this one is in a league of its own!

TwilightZone Opening THEME MUSIC 1962 Rod Serling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5Y3TJjZgTA

                 

     The TwilightZone Main Theme  

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJjDXyXP2As

The OuterLimits (1995) Intro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dzxGlcErUo

By WxFollower - Sept. 8, 2025, 9:58 p.m.
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Hey Mike,

 Have Reps Greene and Boebert commented yet? How about Steve Bannon and Alex Jones?  McFarm and cutworm, what do you think? Is it fake?

By WxFollower - Sept. 8, 2025, 10:06 p.m.
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Hey Mike,

 Have you ever watched “The Last Word” with Lawrence O’Donnell? I highly recommend you give it a try if you haven’t! There’s literally nothing like it. It’s on at 9PM CT M-Thu. I tape it regularly.

By metmike - Sept. 8, 2025, 11:55 p.m.
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Thanks, Larry!

I've not watched the program but will try to sample it.  He seems pretty far left but I enjoy listening to opinions from all sides. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_O%27Donnell

Lawrence Francis O'Donnell Jr. (born November 7, 1951)[1] is an American television anchor, actor, author, screenwriter, liberal political commentator, and host of The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell, an MSNBC opinion and news program that airs on weeknights.[2]

He was a writer and producer for the NBC series The West Wing (playing the role of President Bartlet's father in flashbacks) as well as creator and executive producer of the NBC series Mister Sterling. He also appeared as recurring character Lee Hatcher in the HBO series Big Love.

O'Donnell began his political career in 1989, as an aide to U.S. Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, and was staff director for the Senate Finance Committee. He describes himself as a "practical European socialist"

By WxFollower - Sept. 9, 2025, 1:13 a.m.
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 The main part I would recommend is his monologue, which averages ~20 minutes at the start. As part of these monologues, he often includes split screens of his facial expressions while Trump is talking. Then he comments on what Trump says.

 He clearly is far left/way left of me. (I’m pretty moderate for those who don’t know.)

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*Edit: I just watched part of tonight’s show and now realize that without Lawrence’s show, the copy of that birthday book letter would quite likely not have been released at least yet. He had had on his show the attorney for the victims, Bradley Edwards, who said that it could be obtained by asking for it from the Epstein estate. The subsequent guest that day was a member of the House Oversight committee investigating this, Rep Ro Khanna. He had heard what Mr. Edwards said and got it done by having Edwards meet with the House Oversight Committee:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M_UKL2JNFFQ

By metmike - Sept. 9, 2025, 7:41 a.m.
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Thanks, Larry!

That was pretty powerful!

It's exactly what I was saying back in July about this letter!!!!

In the birthday book was an even more offensive note related to Trump being a predator of women.


Epstein 'Birthday Book' Depicts Shocking Joke About Selling Woman To Trump

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/epstein-birthday-book-depicts-shocking-010313977.html

Oversight Dems@OversightDems

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NEW PAGE FROM EPSTEIN’S BIRTHDAY BOOK: Epstein and a longtime Mar-a-Lago member joking about selling a "fully depreciated" woman to Donald Trump for $22,500.

By commodityman - Sept. 9, 2025, 8:11 a.m.
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Previous posts related to this letter.

I'm using my NON moderator handle to access these as somebody hacked the forum and is blocking the moderator, metmike from being able to access this thread below.

  Jeffrey Epstein            

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                Started by metmike - July 16, 2025, 9:34 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/113255/

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                            By metmike - July 17, 2025, 10:42 p.m.        

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                            By metmike - July 18, 2025, 1:04 a.m.        

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                            By metmike - July 18, 2025, 4:55 p.m.       

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                            By metmike - July 19, 2025, 4:29 p.m.        

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                            By metmike - July 21, 2025, 5:56 p.m.   

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                            By metmike - July 24, 2025, 2:15 p.m.  

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                            By metmike - July 25, 2025, 11:03 a.m.     

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                            By metmike - July 26, 2025, 11:12 p.m.            

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                By metmike - July 29, 2025, 9:01 p.m.        


By metmike - Sept. 9, 2025, 8:33 a.m.
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Since the news broke months ago, Predator Trump has never expressed sympathy for these victims/survivors. 

Instead, he depicts Donald Trump as the victim!!!

Denying the stone cold truth. Denying the stone cold evidence, with his minions ignoring the authentic facts and just outright, blatantly lying to cover up for their infallible leader and for these despicable men. 

There were hundreds of REAL victims here. This cover up is victimizing them all over again.

 C'mon people. These were horrendous sex crimes committed over a period of decades by rich and powerful men that abused teenagers, using them for their sex toys and for selfish pleasure with NO REGARD for them as human beings.

This is diabolical, criminal activity that they got away with because of being rich and powerful. 

These girls were human beings!

Think of your daughters, sisters, wives and women that you know and care for in your life. How would you feel if THEY were violated by predators like this?

Today, the REAL survivors are in fact, wives, mothers, sisters and daughters of countless people that want justice. 

In a civilized, ethical world with rules and laws that protect the most vulnerable of human beings, we don't look the other way.

We seek justice, especially to prevent rich and powerful men from doing this in the future. 




By metmike - Sept. 9, 2025, 10:36 a.m.
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From what I saw on Fox News last night(didn't watch it all) there was 0 coverage of this.

This was the Fox News headline for the print media yesterday:

Bill Clinton letter in Epstein 'birthday book' among new files released by House Oversight Committee

 The infamous 'birthday book' is among the files released by the House Oversight Committee

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bill-clinton-letter-epstein-birthday-book-among-new-files-released-house-oversight-committee



The book also appears to include entries by former Epstein attorney Alan Dershowitz and President Donald Trump, though the White House and the president himself have vehemently denied its veracity on multiple occasions.

The birthday book included a letter from Epstein’s mother, Pauline Stolofsky Epstein, who wrote that she’d been "very busy reminiscing since Ghislaine asked me to write about you."

"Jeff[,] you have been a good son since day one and we have been proud of you ever since," Epstein’s mother wrote.

She continued, detailing fond childhood memories of Epstein's life, from his early childhood to his young adult years.

The book features hundreds of photos, including pictures of Epstein as a child and a teenager, as well as formal school photos and pictures of him hanging out with friends

Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., told reporters when asked about Trump's entry in the book, "I'm told that it's fake."


More from Fox:

Former Trump advisor slams Epstein case as 'complete hoax' 

Former senior Trump advisor Jason Miller weighs in on the president's crime crackdown, fallout from the Epstein files and criticism facing Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. during 'MediaBuzz.'

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Fox doesn't even have the ethical guts/integrity or enough honesty to post the Trump letter to give their readers/viewers the opportunity to see it themselves/ourselves.

Instead, they showed the Clinton letter and made comments about how the Trump letter is a fake.

By metmike - Sept. 9, 2025, 11:35 a.m.
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Trump calls Epstein birthday letter a 'dead issue'

The president has denied that he wrote the letter, which was part of a trove of documents the House Oversight Committee released Monday.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-calls-epstein-birthday-letter-dead-issue-rcna230042

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By metmike - Sept. 9, 2025, 5:46 p.m.
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By metmike - Sept. 10, 2025, 12:21 a.m.
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Epstein's birthday book is loaded with vulgar messages and offensive sex jokes related to him being a predator of women and girls. 

So most of his friends knew clearly what he was doing and thought of it as funny, instead of being a crime!!!

Hopefully, they will release many of the names so that some of these people can be exposed.

By WxFollower - Sept. 10, 2025, 12:38 a.m.
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Hey Mike. Here is a link to the monologue portion of tonight’s (9/9) Lawrence O’Donnell’s The Last Word:

Lawrence: One honest thing Trump said about Epstein’s survivors is ‘I haven’t thought about it’

MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell details how “Donald Trump wants you to believe he was the only close friend of Jeffrey Epstein's who did not contribute to his birthday book” as Donald Trump dehumanized the survivors of Jeffrey Epstein when he said he hadn’t thought about meeting with them.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAu-142oKyU&list=PLDIVi-vBsOEyZy0adHN2CFRpuTcI43Tdq&index=1&pp=iAQB

By metmike - Sept. 10, 2025, 11:47 a.m.
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WOW, Larry!

I had no idea about the banks involvement. Thanks.

This guy has an extremely gifted delivery, when reading the verbiage on his teleprompter.

His pauses and word emphasis are profoundly captivating.

 As a previous television anchor(weather), though i didn't read from a teleprompter, I appreciate the manner in which he communicates. Even to the point of me being extremely entertained from just that element. I could watch him reading the most boring story in the world and be fascinated by the way he delivers it.

That's a great thing for ratings and convincing people of what he wants to convince them of. In this case, I strongly agree with every word of his polished monologues.

JPMorgan processed $1 billion for Jeffrey Epstein, kept him as client despite sex-trafficking indictment: report

https://nypost.com/2025/09/08/business/jpmorgan-kept-jeffrey-epstein-as-client-despite-sex-trafficking-report/

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What We Know About JPMorgan’s Long Relationship With Jeffrey Epstein

Times reporters combed through thousands of pages of legal and financial records to understand how America’s leading lender enabled the notorious sexual predator.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/08/magazine/what-we-know-about-jpmorgans-long-relationship-with-jeffrey-epstein.html

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How J.P. Morgan enabled Jeffrey Epstein                                              

   


metmike: This is mind boggling!!!

J.P. Morgan was not the only bank involved!!!

Deutsche Bank settles lawsuit with Epstein accusers for $75 million

                                               

By metmike - Sept. 11, 2025, 3 p.m.
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See Epstein’s full ‘birthday book,’ with alleged personal messages from Trump, Clinton and others

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/see-epsteins-full-birthday-book-with-alleged-personal-messages-from-trump-clinton-and-others

Read the book by clicking on the image below.  

epstein-RF



They knew what his game was for decades and GLORIFIED his predatory tactics as a pedophile!!!

According to Epstein, Donald Trump was his closest friend in the 1990's!

This was BEFORE the period that the justice department prosecuted his crimes from his under age sex trafficking business with Maxwell. 

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Epstein Asked Ghislaine Maxwell To ‘Remove Trump’ From List Of Associates, New Emails Reportedly Reveal

https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2025/09/11/epstein-asked-ghislaine-maxwell-to-remove-trump-from-list-of-associates-new-emails-reportedly-reveal/