2023 Canadian wild fires still burning
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Started by cutworm - Feb. 25, 2024, 10:05 p.m.
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By 12345 - Feb. 26, 2024, 3:12 a.m.
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I SURE WOULDN'T WANT THAT JOB. BRRRRRRRRRRRRR  

By metmike - Feb. 28, 2024, 6:54 a.m.
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Thanks for this great thread, cutworm.

Im not ignoring it but wanted to do some additional  research and get some data to show before commenting And have been busy with wx and chess Tournaments.

For sure its fascinating.

By metmike - March 7, 2024, 8:31 p.m.
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Sorry it took so long cutworm!

The 2024 wildfire season is uncertain, though one would think that these "zombie fires" increase the chance of it being another big one.

However, we know with absolute certainty that, while climate change might have had a small impact, it did NOT cause it.

Look at the unprecedented spike higher last year that was well over double the previous record. Why wasn't this from climate change?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2023/09/25/canada-smoke-fire-british-columbia-alberta/


To make it crystal clear,  that this was NOT from climate change (despite so many sources claiming otherwise) let's look at the record PRIOR to last year. 

https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2023/05/are-large-alberta-fires-result-of.html

Climate change has been caused mostly from an incrementally slow warming of 1 Deg C over the past century as the result of the physics from increasing CO2 "greenhouse gas" warming.

Most of that warming took place, starting from the late 1970's and coinciding with the graph above showing the area and number of fires burned. Before last year, the 6 worst years were in the 1980's/90's and the number of fires have been INVERSELY CORRELATED WITH CLIMATE CHANGE.

1 extreme outlier, exception to the rule, against the down trend  year like 2023 was totally consist with natural variation and NOT CLIMATE CHANGE!


It really boils down to this, once again(Cliff Mass can be counted on as an elite source for using objective, authentic science)

https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2016/03/the-golden-rule-of-climate-extremes.html

The GoldenRule

" Considering the substantial confusion in the media about this critical issue, let me provide the GOLDENRULE OF CLIMATE EXTREMES. Here it is:

The more extreme a climate or weather record is, the greater the contribution of natural variability.

Or to put it a different way, the larger or more unusual an extreme, the higher proportion of the extreme is due to natural variability. "

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Regardless of the definitive, authentic science above, we continue to be bombarded with fake climate crisis alarmism that cherry picks every extreme from natural variability and tells us that the climate crisis either caused it or played a key role.

By metmike - March 7, 2024, 8:39 p.m.
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The biggest problem in predicting the 2024 fire season in Canada is that the 2023 season was unprecedented by such a wide margin that we don't have any good analogs.

Regardless, it will likely boil down to the weather.

Maybe last year was caused by the rapidly strengthening NATURAL El Nino?

This year, we are seeing the rapidly deteriorating El Nino and start of La Nina by mid Summer.

Will that cause the opposite weather?

How much have zombie fires in the past led to new, massive outbreaks the following season?

By metmike - March 7, 2024, 8:49 p.m.
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Here are some things they WON'T tell you:


Matthew Mclean@AO1JMM

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Good Climate News: Wildfire Trends Have Fallen Off Significantly Over the Recent Decades

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/06/11/good-climate-news-wildfire-trends-have-fallen-off-significantly-over-the-recent-decades/



    

What the Media Won’t Tell you About … Wildfires–Roger Pielke Jr


From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/06/11/what-the-media-wont-tell-you-about-wildfires-roger-pielke-jr/

https://rogerpielkejr.substack.com/p/what-the-media-wont-tell-you-about-783?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=119454&post_id=126926234&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email

 

As we have come to expect from Roger, this is another thorough, well researched and objective analysis. He makes the following points:

 

  • The IPCC has not detected or attributed fire occurrence or area burned to human-caused climate change
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  • Globally, emissions from wildfires has decreased globally over recent decades, as well as in many regions
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  • Canada wildfire trends show no increase in recent decades
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  • Wildfires used to be much more extensive in past centuries
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  • Wildfires are a part of the natural eco-system.

 

You can read the full analysis here.

                                    

   

There are over a dozen additional links in the story at the first link below.

You are being conned: Data, studies & UN IPCC all reveal Canadian fires not due to ‘climate change’ – ‘There has been a significant & continuing decline in the number of fires’

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/06/10/you-are-being-conned-data-studies-un-ipcc-all-reveal-canadian-fires-not-due-to-climate-change-there-has-been-a-significant-continuing-decline-in-the/


The Collapse of Climate-Related Deaths: Deaths have ‘fallen over 90% since 1920’


https://www.climatedepot.com/2017/10/17/fires-far-worse-last-century-claim-global-warming-causing-wildfires-goes-up-in-flames/



https://www.cfact.org/2017/10/17/fires-far-worse-last-century/


                      

Number of wildfires to rise by 50% by 2100 and governments are not prepared, experts warn

https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/press-release/number-wildfires-rise-50-2100-and-governments-are-not-prepared

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If you notice, most of the U.S.  wildfire graphs you see on MSM start in 1980. Wonder why?

US burn acreage so far this year is the lowest since 1998, and ninth lowest since 1926.  Burn acreage is down 96% since 1930. #ClimateScam

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Canadian Wildfires

Chart showing Number of Fires and Area Burned by Year


11. US wildfires and global wildfires. Can you get them on the same page?



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How Did the 2023 Wildfire Season Shape Up?

Despite the Maui wildfires that were the deadliest in the U.S. in over a century, the country overall saw the smallest number of acres burned in more than two decades.

By Cecelia Smith-Schoenwalder

Dec. 26, 2023

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2023-12-26/u-s-2023-wildfire-season-quietest-in-decades

       They can't even draw an honest graph above, with the number of wildfires being 0 in in 2013 so that they could make it look like 2023 was higher than the 2013 number of wildfires. 

By metmike - March 7, 2024, 9:02 p.m.
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