Republican debate 12-6-23
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Started by metmike - Dec. 6, 2023, 7:09 p.m.

               

Who are Republican debate moderators Megyn Kelly, Eliana Johnson and Elizabeth Vargas?

https://nypost.com/2023/12/06/news/who-are-republican-debate-moderators-megyn-kelly-eliana-johnson-and-elizabeth-vargas/




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By metmike - Dec. 6, 2023, 7:10 p.m.
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How to watch the fourth Republican presidential debate of 2023 tonight


https://www.cbsnews.com/essentials/how-to-watch-the-fourth-republican-presidential-debate-of-2023/


By metmike - Dec. 7, 2023, 1:46 a.m.
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Vivek Ramaswamy promotes Jan. 6 conspiracy theory by suggesting it was 'an inside job'

The GOP presidential candidate has also waded into conspiracy theories about 9/11.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/vivek-ramaswamy-january-6-inside-job-conspiracy-theory-rcna128463

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Vivek had been calling bought and paid for politicians out and saying some really smart things, while showing he doesn't have the right disposition to be a president and then, he said the dumbest thing of all stated in any of the 4 debates.

Not only is there ZERO evidence of Jan. 6 being an inside job(just manufactured conspiracy theories like the laughable Ray Epps nonsense-completely obliterated by EVERY authentic fact) but there's a Mt. Everest sized mountain of rock solid evidence that Donald Trump was almost entirely responsible.

Vivek showed how desperate he is tonight by telling what he absolutely knows is a huge whopper in order to appeal to the far right Trump base. That got him one of his best applause's of the night.

Much of the time, Christy was the only  brutally honest person up there as he told the  truth about Trump............and got booed. 

Everybody else is afraid to speak the truth or to be too harsh about the R cult leader's no longer being qualified to be president.......because they know Trump and his captured minds will administer punishment by condemning and shunning them, like has happened to Christy.

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We keep hearing that if Trump gets elected, the United States will lose our democracy.

What would you call this?

4 R debates from presidential candidates that have a near 0 chance of being on the ballet next November as the big leader in all the polls never comes?

On the D side, no debates and the old man that is struggling greatly now to perform his presidential duties, which 75% of democratic voters don't want...........is who they are TOLD they are getting.

Ds don't like Biden?

Tough, that's who you get. 

As they continue to pretend that Biden will be the candidate, even though there's a 97% chance that it will be Gavin Newsom.

The closest thing to a real presidential debate this year that featured 1 of the people who will actually be  their party's nominee was the Newsom vs DeSantis and Hannity debate last month.

                desantis/newsome debate            

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                Started by mcfarm - Dec. 1, 2023, 10:37 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/100974/

This is NOT how our democracy worked previously. 


By mcfarm - Dec. 7, 2023, 6:07 a.m.
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Have heard more and more people since that debate say it was the most important debate in years. The stark contrast between the 2 was striking in their vision of America. Voters can make a choice between far different philosophies and it should not be that hard to choose.

By metmike - Dec. 7, 2023, 10:16 a.m.
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"The stark contrast between the 2 was striking in their vision of America. Voters can make a choice between far different philosophies and it should not be that hard to choose."

That standard to judge a debate discussion will change completely when it's Trump vs Newsom.

Neither Newsom or DeSantis have caused an Insurrection or committed felony's that have a mountain of evidence to convinct.

Newsom and DeSantis are both young and more than ever in history AGE is a huge factor because of Biden, McConnell and Feinstein.

Trump-77 years old seems relatively young compared to Biden-81 years old, who is clearly experiencing noticeable loss of cerebral functioning from age which is making it impossible for him to effectively perform the duties of president.

When it becomes Trump-77 vs Newsom-56 years old, suddenly millions of people that care about age will see Trump as the old man.  

In 2024, age is what will cause Biden to step down and be replaced by a much younger man.

When that happens, age will go from one of the biggest things hurting the D chances in November 2024, to being one of the biggest things IN THEIR FAVOR.

Recent elections have been won by the person least hated.

NOT Hillary Clinton won in 2016 against NOT Donald Trump

NOT Donald Trump clearly won in 2020 vs NOT Joe Biden.


Who do you think will be least hated in 2024? Trump or Newsom?

NOT Donald Trump or NOT Gavin Newsom?


Clearly, NOT Joe Biden(Trump) is a much larger number than NOT Gavin Newsom(Trump).

So they want NOT Gavin Newsome (Trump) to get the least amount of votes and and NOT Donald Trump to win for the 2nd election in a row.

Again, Joe Biden WAS not Donald Trump last time but after the country has seem him long enough to hate him, his NOT Joe Biden vote has soared higher and all goes to Trump. 

So they will replace him and all the NOT Joe Biden vote goes away like that, being replaced with NOT Gavin Newsom.

Of course there will be tens of millions of  people like the far right that are ALWAYS Donald Trump(and always the D candidate) but this discussion is about the MAJORITY of voters which decide elections today. 


I think that part of them delaying the announcement that Biden is bowing out and Newsom  taking his place is similar to Biden hiding in his basement, while Trump increased the NOT Donald Trump vote.

It's hard to hate somebody that's sort of invisible. Not enough people know Newsom enought to hate him. That takes time. Reducing that time for Rs and others, like Fox to attack Newsom around the clock (like they do Biden) and generate the hate needed to beat him with Trump is an effective tactic.

The longer they wait, the better it is from Newsom, as Biden is getting all the flack and negativity. 

The longer they wait, the bigger the sigh of relief by the vast majority of Ds that want Biden out, who will immediately, strongly unify for Newsom. They can't do that with Biden and be genuine. Look at his record high UNfavorable rating!