BIDENS' HYDROGEN DREAM
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Started by 12345 - Dec. 22, 2023, 10:16 p.m.

Biden's hydrogen tax credit unveiled as administration tries to jump start industry

The Biden administration released its highly anticipated proposal for doling out billions of dollars in tax credits to hydrogen producers Friday, in a massive effort to build out an industry that some hope can be a cleaner alternative to fossil fueled power.

The U.S. credit is the most generous in the world for hydrogen production, Jesse Jenkins, a professor at Princeton University who has analyzed the U.S. climate law, said last week.

The proposal — which is part of Democrats’ Inflation Reduction Act passed last year — outlines a tiered system to determine which hydrogen producers get the most credits, with cleaner energy projects receiving more, and smaller, but still meaningful credits going to those that use fossil fuel to produce hydrogen.

Administration officials estimate the hydrogen production credits will deliver $140 billion in revenue and 700,000 jobs by 2030 — and will help the U.S. produce 50 million metric tons of hydrogen by 2050.

“That’s equivalent to the amount of energy currently used by every bus, every plane, every train and every ship in the US combined,” Energy Deputy Secretary David M. Turk said on a Thursday call with reporters to preview the proposal.

That may be a useful metric for comparison, but it's a long way from reality. Buses, planes, trains and ships run on liquid fuels for which a delivery infrastructure exists, and no such system exists to deliver cleanly-made hydrogen to the places where it could most help address climate change. Those include steel, cement and plastics factories.

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By metmike - Dec. 23, 2023, 3:55 p.m.
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Why are we still wasting time, resources/money on this dead end?

Because of crony capitalism, political agenda, corrupted science, misinformed but mostly sincere environmentalists and dishonest, ratings seeking, sensationalizing media with activists that are selling snake oil, disguised as objective journalism/science!!!

The promises are nothing but fairy tales.


Why Are We Still Talking About Hydrogen?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesmorris/2021/02/06/why-are-we-still-talking-about-hydrogen/?sh=13ec12507f04


This was 16 years ago and the PHYSICS and natural laws are NEVER going to change. Corrupt politicians and entities that want to exploit  junk science for self serving agenda/self enriching endeavors  will always be there. 


Winter 2007            


The Hydrogen Hoax

https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/the-hydrogen-hoax


By metmike - Dec. 23, 2023, 4:34 p.m.
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New addition at this link:

                Carbon sequestration           

                              Started by metmike - Dec. 10, 2023, 12:18 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/101143/

By metmike - Dec. 23, 2023, 4:45 p.m.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_embrittlement

Hydrogen embrittlement (HE), also known as hydrogen-assisted cracking or hydrogen-induced cracking (HIC), is a reduction in the ductility of a metal due to absorbed hydrogen. Hydrogen atoms are small and can permeate solid metals. Once absorbed, hydrogen lowers the stress required for cracks in the metal to initiate and propagate, resulting in embrittlement. Hydrogen embrittlement occurs most notably in steels, as well as in iron, nickel, titanium, cobalt, and their alloys. Copper, aluminium, and stainless steels are less susceptible to hydrogen embrittlement


Hydrogen Embrittlement

HE can be defined as the hydrogen-caused deterioration of the mechanical properties of most metallic materials and alloys.

From: Handbook of Environmental Degradation of Materials (Third Edition), 2018

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/materials-science/hydrogen-embrittlement

By mcfarm - Dec. 25, 2023, 7:58 a.m.
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I had a dream too. That this entire Biden mess was a dream Then I woke up.