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Started by joj - Nov. 29, 2022, 10:44 p.m.

NY Times, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, USA Today (basically everyone):

"Oath Keepers Leader Rhodes Found Guilty of Seditious Conspiracy"

Fox News Headlines:

"Why Experts think Sexually Frustrated Suspect Could be Behind Idaho Student Slaying."

Another Fox headline about Elon Musk and Twitter.  And another about inflation.  I scroll down and see a lot of drivel.

Nothing!  Nothing about the Jan 6th verdict.

It's simply not a news outlet.  It's a MAGA propaganda instrument.

By metmike - Nov. 30, 2022, 1:41 a.m.
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By mcfarm - Nov. 30, 2022, 6:31 a.m.
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I see you all just kind of rushed right over the FBI agents involved, not that its much of surprise anymore with our new FBI

By joj - Nov. 30, 2022, 10:16 a.m.
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I was looking at the national link Foxnews.com

Not the Fox5DC link

By metmike - Nov. 30, 2022, 11:23 a.m.
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Yes, I just grabbed the first one that popped up to show the story, since I've been busy with weather and chess at our schools. 


"I see you all just kind of rushed right over the FBI agents involved, not that its much of surprise anymore with our new FBI"


As an avid Fox viewer, you make joj's case exactly for him. This is completely made up by Fox, with bunk sources like the  Epoch Times and dishonest MAGA republicans, like Cruz giving them an assist. 

The ludicrous conspiracy theory:

Fact-check: Fox News and Republican lawmakers push new false flag conspiracy that FBI orchestrated US Capitol attack


Fox News Would Like to Make It Clear That Tucker Carlson’s Deranged January 6 Show Is Not on Fox News



Here's the content of one of his most retarded shows ever covering this:


CARLSON: So you look at the guy in the Viking horns, the Chewbacca guy and you may reach the obvious conclusion, maybe psilocybin mushrooms aren't good for you, and that's fair. But no honest person could look at that video and decide America is under attack from terrorists.

So then you have to ask, is that what the rest of the so-called insurrection look like?

Well, now we have an answer because a Federal Judge just rejected the Biden administration's strenuous attempts to hide the surveillance footage from January 6th.
So footage was just released. It was obtained by BuzzFeed. It covers 15 minutes on January 6th from 2:25 p.m. to 2:40 p.m. Eastern and those are key moments in the so-called insurrection.
Now right now, you're seeing images from a surveillance camera positioned at the entrance to the Senate wing of the Capitol. You don't see people hiding bombs or using bayonets or firing weapons, trying to take over the country in an insurrection.

You see people walking around and taking pictures. They don't look like terrorists, they look like tourists, and all of them by the way are Americans.
The rest of the footage including shots from surveillance cameras outside the crypt of the Capitol is similar to this. You can look it all up by the way, it's online right now and you should because you will notice that contrary to what the Department of Justice, we're going to have to start putting air quotes around that, contrary to what D.O.J. claimed, none of the footage shows a secret route into the Capitol. Oh, that ISIS-K could use.
So why did they keep this from us? Well, here is one theory. You can compare the footage released today was what Democrats showed us during the impeachment hearings earlier this year.
Take a look at this. It is surveillance footage showing a squad of people dressed in all black systematically entering the Capitol and kicking open one of the exterior doors on the Senate side. These people appear to be well-trained and coordinated. They're not high in hallucinogenic mushrooms.
The question is: who are they? And why don't we know their names? And why aren't they dressed like any of the other people in the footage that was just released?
Remember, we were attacked for saying this, but we've already been vindicated for it. We still don't know how many Federal agents were involved in the events that day on January 6th, but we have very good reason to believe from court documents that it's a significant number.
And here's one clue. At a recent rally in Washington, the Feds managed to arrest one of their own undercover agents. There were so many Feds at the event that they lost track of each other and arrested one of them.

So we ask once again, how many Federal agents were there on January 6th? Why can't we know? What is clear is that once again, this footage reveals the first draft of history was a total lie, an intentional distortion, a mirage created to control you. It was the work of a specific political party. It was the work of the Democratic Party.

So, it turns out, the vast majority of people inside the Capitol on January 6 were peaceful. They were not insurrectionists, they shouldn't have been there. They weren't trying to overthrow the government. That's a total crock.
And with that in mind, some of the other lies about January 6th start to make more sense.


Tucker Carlson: Government agents may have helped organize the Jan. 6 Capitol riot

The government is hiding the identity of many law enforcement officers who were present at the Capitol on Jan. 6


Tucker Carlson Bizarrely Blames the FBI for MAGA Riot


Where Tucker Carlson goes, Fox News and its viewers follow.    

Off the rails': New Tucker Carlson project for Fox embraces conspiracy theories


The network's top host is now leading them to an examination of the violent Jan. 6 siege of the U.S. Capitol in a three-part series called Patriot Purge, which was released this week on the network's right-wing streaming service Fox Nation.    

In the series, Carlson strongly suggests that the insurrection was not orchestrated by former President Donald Trump's fans but by his foes, including violent leftist antifa groups and even the FBI and other national security divisions. He plants the idea that the siege was a "false flag" operation to discredit Trump supporters.  

Carlson is promoting the series on his own prime-time show on Fox News — which is the top-rated program in all of cable news — and on the popular Fox & Friends morning show.

"These kinds of conspiracy theories about Jan. 6 used to be relegated to weird blogs and known conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones," says Jared Holt, who monitors extremism on social media for the Atlantic Council's Digital Forensic Research Lab

As the Jan 6. hearing aired, Fox News ran an ad-free Tucker Carlson show pushing the debunked claim the riot was an FBI plot



And there are dozens of articles just like this that debunk one of the dumbest conspiracy theories in history!


Here's the Epoch Times jumping on board the crazy conspiracy theory.

Wray Refuses to Answer Whether FBI Had Sources ‘Dressed as Trump Supporters’ on Jan. 6



Here's Ted Cruz, seeing how MAGA people watching Fox were so easily bamboozled by this crazy conspiracy theory and deciding to incorporate it into his political agenda to capture MAGA minds and votes based on self serving political posturing. 

Cruz quizzes FBI brass on Capitol riot conspiracy theory at Senate hearing


By mcfarm - Nov. 30, 2022, 3:07 p.m.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS_EMka7UBA  do not drag me into the mess of an FBI. I only put reports up of there abhorrent behavior. This latest mess has been reported by that well known far right leaning NY Times among others. Article after article including one of the latest where one FBi Agent who infiltrated the proud boys and was set to testify but suffered a heart attack just prior. I posted Chris wray here time after time refusing to answer simple yes or no's when it come his corrupt outfit and the 6th as well as the gov. of Michigan mess where 2 were acquitted and 2 got mistrials. The fbi admitted they had more agents  involved than the idiots that went along with the fbi's plant to kidnap the gov.  And the  agent in charge was fired.  Of course not he was promoted you silly fool. 

By mcfarm - Nov. 30, 2022, 3:19 p.m.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q86uQygnc8 here is chuck grassly just from today. Any care to explain the luck he had, as oversight committee of the FBi in getting any cooperation/

By mcfarm - Nov. 30, 2022, 3:33 p.m.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZy0l6nYYqw   and here we have it all explained. How the mayor must ask for help from the guard, which she did, only to mysteriously reverse herself. This getting more and more familiar to the Russian hoax investigation with lib in charge from start to finish. And just like the Russian mess, someday it will all come out and by then maybe we will safely all be little quiet, socialists and gaze right past it and all kneel at the foot of big gov

By metmike - Nov. 30, 2022, 7:05 p.m.
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Fact: The insurrectionists were armed because President Trump wanted them armed and took actions so that they could be armed by calling off the metal detectors.

Denying that he was trying to overturn the election is just a product of you going to Fox to be fed the complete opposite of the truth, then post absurd videos that are more evidence of your captured brain. 

This is exactly, joj's point in starting this thread.


Cassidy Hutchinson says Trump wanted a bigger crowd at his rally, and he said: "I don't fucking care that they have weapons.  They're not here to hurt me.  Take the fxxxxx mags away.  Let my people in. They can march to the Capitol from here.” #January6thHearings

I watched the videos. Republicans posturing with bs to appeal to what their base WANTS TO BELIEVE, which defines FOX in the evening's broadcasting strategy. This only works on MAGA believers that have turned into a cult like religion that will always believe anything that lines up with what they want to believe and discard all else.

Don't feel too bad though. You're brain and ability to think critically are just another casualty of  what defines our world today:


I explain it here, under "How did we get here"



Most NON MAGA people see this MAGA delusional thought process......believing things like the election was rigged or the FBI causing the Insurrection as absurd and wonder how people could believe in such crazy things..............

While everybody on the far left, most on the left and some others too  totally believe the best weather/climate in the last 1,000 years(last time it was this warm) on a planet that's greening up and was as much as 2 deg. C warmer than this between 9,000 to 5,000 years ago with less Arctic Ice (called the Holocene Climate OPTIMUM) is a climate CRISIS this time and the beneficial gas, building block for life that's greening up the planet, CO2 is actually pollution.

And the solutions that are actually WRECKING the planet, including wind, the environmental source from hell. 

Death by Greening:



Despite these 100 threads and 1,000+ posts that spell out the fake climate crisis with authentic data, facts and overwhelming evidence..........it's all completely ignored because they've been sold a "save the planet" narrative on a much larger scale from sources that are supposed to be reliable......which causes no scrutiny, no questioning, no fact checking...........JUST BELIEVING IT ALL.

This just leads to the brain using all new information that lines up with what we think that we know receiving confirmation info to store as intelligence and things that contradict it being completely rejected.........even the truth. 

The brain cannot recognize the authentic truth when that person's truth has been defined as the complete opposite!

By mcfarm - Dec. 1, 2022, 6:47 a.m.
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I have not and would not deny any stupid crap the rioters did on Jan 6th. I also will not let our corrupt FBI off the hook. Why would I when the truth is the organization needs to be destroyed. A few short years ago just one instance of corruption would of been enough for corrective action. Nowadays their crimes happen so often its not even a shock when they are outed. Just how long should Americans put up with these actions. If you want to bury your head and claim the very committee with oversight is doing nothing but spewing Bs you are a fool. Or would you rather we continue down this road of no over sight and the FBI raiding your residence in the middle of the night with long guns drawn and your family wondering why. Ohh I forgot you went to a school board meeting.

Headlines !!
By metmike - Dec. 1, 2022, 7:30 a.m.
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Thanks mcfarm,

it’s very  true that our justice department leaders and buerocrats greatly abuse  their power for political agenda. We proved this indisputably with  the authentic facts  about the very corrupted Mueller investigation. 

only people that want to believe this will believe  those facts. Those that want to think Russia influenced the election and helped Trump to win or hate trump and want to believe everything that vilifies him are completely unable  to see those facts presentedm here that prove Mueller was corrupt.

those that know he was, unfortunately want to believe everything and anything that features the DOJ and FBI as the bad  guys as depicted by Fox and others that want to use them as scapegoats at events and situations that they played no role in.

I’m bothered most that Fox and many others from both sides use people.

Intentionally and knowingly target people…….which is also,why Gunter came here, especially the last year….stating things that you and others  want to hear and pretending to be your friend with a fake sincere presentation while lying their butts off and using you and others for their self serving objectives.

they are victims themselves in believing the DISinformation. However, that’s no excuse for blindly passing it on using deceptive, manipulative tactics and especially blatant lies. No excuse for using deception, no matter what you believe.

You don’t do that, mcfarm. You just pass on what you sincerely believe As do others here.

but guys like Gunter and vanderplas were anything but honest and sincere.

you totally believed Gunter because he stated what you wanted to hear. You totally rejected vandy because he stated what you didn’t want to hear/read.

By metmike - Dec. 1, 2022, 8:05 a.m.
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Our brains are hardwired in many cases with cognitive bias that results in instinctively rejecting anything that contradicts what we want to believe in.

instead of contemplating the possibility that the new stuff might be right….and that  we might be wrong…we immediately react by defending what our brains have decided is right based on…..what our already defined definition of what right is.

opposing sides in a discussion with 10 facts that support both sides will feature each side mainly believing all the facts for their side and rejecting the facts that support the other side.

the brains of both  sides have already decided what they are going to believe before the discussions begin!

almost every debate about every topic features this frame of mind by each side.

this affects me too. If you are not aware that this is happening, however, it’s impossible to stop your brain from sabotaging itself from objectively contemplating all new information that includes things which don’t line up with what that brain wants to believe!