Weather Tuesday
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Started by metmike - July 10, 2018, 9:28 a.m.

New rains emerging.............even wetter than yesterday....especially late week 1.

Forecast for rains below:

Day 1:

http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/fill_94qwbg.gif?1526306199054

24 Hour Precipitation Total - Day 1

Day 1 QPF

Day 2:

http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/fill_98qwbg.gif?1528293750112

24 Hour Precipitation Total - Day 2

Day 2 QPF

Day 3:

http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/fill_99qwbg.gif?1528293842764

24 Hour Precipitation Total - Day 3

Day 3 QPF

Days 4-5:

http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/95ep48iwbg_fill.gif?1526306162

Days 6-7:

http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/97ep48iwbg_fill.gif?1526306162

    

Days 4-5
 
            Day 4-5 QPF valid 12z 07/11/18 - 12z 07/13/18     
Valid 12z 07/11/18 - 12z 07/13/18     
[contours only]    
Days 6-7
 
            Day 6-7 QPF valid 12z 07/13/18 - 12z 07/15/18     
Valid 12z 07/13/18 - 12z 07/15/1


http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.govcdx /qpf/p168i.gif?1530796126

http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/p168i.gif?1530796126

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By metmike - July 10, 2018, 9:30 a.m.
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Severe Storm Risk.  Northern Tier.  Press your cursor on the map for full screen.

https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/

Current Day 1 Outlook
        1300 UTC Day 1 Outlook             
                Forecaster: Hart/Kerr
Issued: 18/1240Z
Valid: 18/1300Z - 19/1200Z
Forecast Risk of Severe Storms: Slight Risk        
      
          Current Day 2 Outlook
          0600 UTC Day 2 Outlook               
                Forecaster: Bunting
Issued: 18/0600Z
Valid: 19/1200Z - 20/1200Z
Forecast Risk of Severe Storms: Marginal Risk        
      
          Current Day 3 Outlook
          0600 UTC Day 3 Outlook               
                Forecaster: Bunting
Issued: 18/0731Z
Valid: 20/1200Z - 21/1200Z
Forecast Risk of Severe Storms: Marginal Risk
      
          Current Day 4-8 Outlook
          Day 4-8 Convective Outlook
By metmike - July 10, 2018, 9:32 a.m.
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Not much Excessive Rainfall threat.



Current Day 1 ForecastCurrent Day 1 Excessive Rainfall Forecast
Valid 12Z 07/05/18 - 12Z 07/06/18

 

Day 1 Threat Area in Text Format  


  Day 2 and Day 3 Forecasts 
Current Day 2 ForecastCurrent Day 2 Excessive Rainfall Forecast
By metmike - July 10, 2018, 9:33 a.m.
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High Temperatures today and Wednesday.

                    

By metmike - July 10, 2018, 9:34 a.m.
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Dew points starting to increase northward.

Current Dew Points

By metmike - July 10, 2018, 9:35 a.m.
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Heat and high humidity .....feels like temperature!

Current US Heat Index Map

By metmike - July 10, 2018, 9:35 a.m.
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Highs days 3-7 shows  Hot but............cooling late, especially Upper Midwest.

http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/DAY3_MAX_filled.gif

http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/DAY4_MAX_filled.gifhttp://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/DAY5_MAX_filled.gifhttp://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/DAY6_MAX_filled.gifhttp://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/DAY7_MAX_filled.gif

By metmike - July 10, 2018, 9:36 a.m.
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How do these temperatures compare to average at this time of year. Above average in the hottest time of year!:

High temperature departures:

http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/hpcmaxwbg.gif




Low Temperature Departures:

http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/hpcminwbg.gif

By metmike - July 10, 2018, 9:37 a.m.
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By metmike - July 10, 2018, 9:37 a.m.
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Here is the latest radar image. 

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/radar_tab.php

Doppler Radar National Mosaic Loop

By Jim_M - July 10, 2018, 9:37 a.m.
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The corn in my area looks really good.  One of the fields I pass is already tasseling.  Last year at this time it was barely shoulder high.  For the middle of July, it's pretty impressive.  

By metmike - July 10, 2018, 9:38 a.m.
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Thanks Jim!


Satellite picture.


US Infrared Satellite Map

By metmike - July 10, 2018, 9:38 a.m.
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Rains the past 24 hours.  Minnesota!           

By metmike - July 10, 2018, 9:38 a.m.
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You can go to this link to see rain totals from recent time periods:

https://water.weather.gov/precip/

Go to precipitation, then scroll down to pick a time frame. Hit states to get the borders to see locations better. Under products, you can hit "observed" or "Percent of normal"

By metmike - July 10, 2018, 9:39 a.m.
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http://weather.agribleservices.com/ahps/7_day_percent.png

http://weather.agribleservices.com/ahps/30_day_percent.png

By metmike - July 10, 2018, 10:20 a.m.
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http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/Soilmst_Monitoring/Figures/daily/curr.w.anom.daily.gif


http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/regional_monitoring/cmi.gif


Canadian ensembles back up the heat ridge in week 2 with a deepening trough in the Northeast. This has been a consistent theme for numerous days for this model with fewer and fewer members having the heat ridge farther east. 


384h GZ 500 forecast valid on Jul 25, 2018 00 UTC

GZ 500 forecastGZ 500 forecastGZ 500 forecastGZ 500 forecast


GFS ensembles have the same idea........Strong heat ridge Southwest, upper level trough East.



   

gefs-mean-sprd_namer_384_500_vort_ht.gif

By metmike - July 10, 2018, 10:22 a.m.
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The longer range, week 3 and week 4 forecast still shows cool.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/mchen/CFSv2FCST/weekly/images/wk3.wk4_latest.NAsfcT.gif

Precip below:

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/mchen/CFSv2FCST/weekly/images/wk3.wk4_latest.NAprec.gif

By metmike - July 10, 2018, 2:17 p.m.
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What's interesting here is that some of the guidance is turning hotter again in week 2:


Almost but not quite half of the Canadian model ensembles on the just updated 12z solution now bring the dome much farther east again:

384h GZ 500 forecast valid on Jul 26, 2018 12 UTC

GZ 500 forecastGZ 500 forecastGZ 500 forecastGZ 500 forecast

There are a few members of the 12Z GFS ensembles that have switched to this hotter idea............a minority. 

http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/ENSHGT_12z/f360.gif

The last operational 12z GFS  below was much more bullish with the upper level ridge farther east in week 2 but this is just 1 run...........we'll have to see if future runs follow or not:

gfs_namer_276_200_wnd_ht_s.gif         gfs_namer_276_500_vort_ht
      gfs_namer_276_500_vort_ht_s.gif   
      gfs_namer_276_1000_500_thick
      gfs_namer_276_1000_500_thick_s.gif   
      gfs_namer_276_850_temp_ht
      gfs_namer_276_850_temp_ht_s.gif
By metmike - July 10, 2018, 4:04 p.m.
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The NWS extended forecast moves in the direction of near normal temperatures and precip by the later period.

This extended period obviously displays less skill than the week 1 period but right now, the confidence is  even lower because of the disparity in solutions at the moment. 

See the above comments on the latest Canadian model.


 

Temperature Probability 6-10 day

6 to 10 Day Outlook - Temperature Probability
 Precipitation Probability

  6 to 10 Day Outlook - Precipitation Probability

Temperature Probability 8-14 day

8 to 14 Day Outlook - Temperature Probability
 Precipitation Probability

  8 to 14 Day Outlook - Precipitation Probability
By WxFollower - July 10, 2018, 5:59 p.m.
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Hey Mike,

 My take on the 12Z Canadian ensemble mean: Even though the day 16 map, itself, is a bit more bullish than the 0Z day 16 map, the 12Z for days 1-15 is significantly cooler/more bearish than the 0Z run as a whole. As a matter of fact, the late week 2/11-15 day period, itself, is significantly cooler on the 12Z vs the 0Z. In the vast majority of cases based on years of following it, if the market is presented with the latest day 1-15 ensemble run, including the 11-15, itself, showing significantly fewer CDDs and IF it reacts to it, it will drop rather than rise even with a day 16 that is warmer. That makes sense as it is being presented with data that suggests the next 15 days, overall, will have significantly lower AC demand than previously thought. NG isn't going to say: "who cares about the cooler upcoming 15 day period because the much more highly speculative day 16 map suggests that after this good chance for a cooler 15 day period there is a HINT that day 16 and perhaps beyond by some unknown period will warm up. We don't know by how much or for how long or even if the day 16 change will occur." NG doesn't normally work like that nor should it from a logical standpoint imo.


 I'll illustrate this with an example that is similar to this 12Z run since you liked the last one I did: let's say that days 1-15 had 10 fewer CDDs than the prior run , days 11-15 had 5 fewer, and that the more highly speculative day 16 had 1 CDD more. The market will fall in the vast majority of cases IF it reacts to this run. A much more speculative day 15 or 16 map that is warmer will not normally come even close to trumping a cooler days 1-14. The cooler days 1-14 are first dialed in via lower prices before any possible later rise should the warmer days 15-16 persist AND progress earlier in the forecast. A trader will not do well in the long run if he/she looks at day 15-16 maps (even ensemble) without also giving a lot of consideration to days 1-14.


Edit: That NWS 8-14 map you showed should be cooler than the prior forecast based strictly on the 12Z CDN ens. because it doesn't even show any warming til day 16.

By mcfarm - July 10, 2018, 7:03 p.m.
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hi Mike..well we watched that cold front come south all day only fall apart at our door step......really needed that one

By wglassfo - July 10, 2018, 8:25 p.m.
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Know how you feel mcfarm

Yesterday was hot and the crops were suffering big time

Today is cooler and the suffering is a lot less

We had 1" of rain a week-10 days ago and the soil sucked it up so you would not know it even rained

No chance until this week end

Losing bu. by the day

Just hope hail  does not come with any rain

July is our hail season

Oh well

This is the new normal for us

Corn is shooting tassels and will continue according to planting date

By metmike - July 10, 2018, 9:04 p.m.
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Thanks Larry,

Everything that you stated makes good sense. I obviously spend too much time/space showing the late week 2 maps. 

The latest 18z GFS ensemble average turns(much?) cooler in the 11-15 day period  than the previous runs. On the day 11 map below, you can see the reason why. A very strong, upper level trough is digging thru the Upper Great Lakes with the 576 dm contour as far south as Lake Superior and well defined "kink" in the contours associated with it. The previous ensemble mean was much flatter with this feature. 

As the energy from this feature feeds into the main trough, it deepens it, so that 4 days later, the 576 dm contour drops even farther south and is located close to where the 582 contour was on day 11.  The 588 contour, which was around Cincinnati, OH on day 11 drops to the TN/GA border on day 15. The previous 12z run featured the 588 contour farther north. 

Days 11 and 15 solutions are below:

gefs-mean-sprd_namer_264_500_vort_ht.gif

   

gefs-mean-sprd_namer_360_500_vort_ht.gif