Do deficits matter???
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Started by wglassfo - Jan. 18, 2021, 9:51 p.m.

1st of all does anybody think the USA is on a road map to a 40 trillion deficit be end of 2021??

I would opine that if the beginning of 2021 is any guide then 40 trillion is indeed possible or probably a given

The question I have is: what will the deficit look like in, let's say the next 10 yrs. If we are in fact at 40 trillion by end of 2021 then where will we be in 2030??

Will congress suddenly have a desire to spend less

If you listen to Biden then the answer is a truly huge deficit, during his administration. He wans the 1st money to go out at 1.9 trillion. That may be less or more, who knows

The Fed wants to keep on with asset purchases and low int rates

So you have congress approving the Biden agenda for spending and the Fed has no choice but to fund this spending with money printing

The problem becomes a problem if foreign countries such as russia, India, China can buy and sell with out USD

Or if investors don't want to own as many USA bonds

China and russia are already showing signs of less bond purchases

So: Do we all just handle more money for the same services and goods

Example: Our corn is worth 6.00/bu CAD but a new combine costs 500,000 plus CAD

By 2025 will corn be worth 12.00/bu CAD but a combine cost 1 million CAD

What will a house cost, your next vechicle, your wages

Will the USA print money and the rest of the world just print money in lock step so we all just use more of the same currency for the same goods and services

What happens if one country decides they need more currency printed vs other countries to pay for gov't spending

perhaps china has a surplus of goods vs imports, thus china does not need to print as much currency to pay the bills

What do you all think???


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By bear - Jan. 18, 2021, 11:28 p.m.
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it is very seductive.  deficits do not matter... until suddenly , they DO !   

a country can run deficits, small at first, then gradually larger.  all may seem ok.  but at some point the currency goes down.  and they eventually, you default on your bonds, and the standard of living declines.

argentina was the 5th largest economy in the world (before WW1).  but after 85 years of socialism, and too much spending, they have gone bankrupt on their debt 8 times.  and they are now number 60, not number 5 .  and the standard of living is much lower than  countries like the u.s., or canada, or sweden.  

By GunterK - Jan. 18, 2021, 11:31 p.m.
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When your country's currency is the Reserve Currency of the world, and much of the international oil trade and other trade is done in your country's currency, you can get away with a bit of deficit spending.

However, it looks to me like this era is coming to an end. More and more countries are already bypassing the US Dollar and trading oil and other goods in their own currencies.

Once this movement accelerates, other countries will get rid of their Dollar reserves.

A reminder... Germany in the 1920s, a time when printing money got out of control...

I just pulled a German banknote from the year 1923 out of my cabinet. It's for 100 mill. Mark. At that time, you could probably buy yourself a sheet of postage stamps with that money