Money talks... in an election
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Started by GunterK - Sept. 22, 2020, 4:31 p.m.

In 2000, just 537 votes in Florida decided the presidential election.

This week, Mr. Bloomberg donated $20 million, so that 31,000 felons can  pay their fines and vote in Florida

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8760919/Bloomberg-pays-20m-debt-31-000-felons-Florida-vote.html

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By wglassfo - Sept. 23, 2020, 12:14 a.m.
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I understand Bloomberg iss being sued in court for aattempted vote buying

This man should not be allowed to buy votes and pay a heavy fine, plus not allow this action to proceed on paying fines up to 1500.00 for selected people of colour. He is obviously picking and choosing who has there fine paid which is an obvious vote buying scheme

The galling part is Bloomberg thinks he is so far above the law, he openly admits to buying votes and thinks he will not suffer any consequences

A few months in jail might bring about an attitude adjustment

By TimNew - Sept. 23, 2020, 4:25 a.m.
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I wonder why is it that felons seem to overwhelmingly vote democrat...  

By cutworm - Sept. 23, 2020, 8:29 a.m.
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Birds of a feather flock together

By metmike - Sept. 23, 2020, 1:43 p.m.
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"A federal appellate court ruled on September 11 that in addition to serving their sentences, Florida felons must pay all fines, restitution and legal fees before they can regain their right to vote."

The above statement is THE LAW and was voted on by people in FL.

 This is extraordinarily unethical by Bloomberg.  We know that he did it for the votes to beat Trump but he has sabotaged the criminal justice system of Florida to do it.

When people break the law, they are held accountable and pay penalties, depending on the crime in the form of jail/prison time or fines, restitution and legal fees.


These are all felons, so their crimes were not minor.

The purpose for having punishment for crimes with our legal system in this country is  called justice and to deter people from committing crimes. 

Bloomberg is literally taking away the punishment handed down by a judge/the legal system and allowing every one of these felons to get out of this part of their sentence/punishment.


Then, he calls it "the right thing to do"


The state of Florida did not say felons cannot vote, just that they must do their time and pay the legally imposed penalty that they owe society because of violating the rules of society before they can vote again.


It's the law and citizens voted for this. 

Bloomberg is saying..............screw you voters of FL, as well as judges, juries and prosecutors. I'm taking away the penalties you imposed legally on felons in your state for my political agenda, using my wealth. 




By metmike - Sept. 23, 2020, 1:54 p.m.
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If I were a republican in Florida, I would be explaining to citizens  what Bloomberg just did to use his money to trump their legal system and laws in Florida. 


He is willing to pay up to $1,500 per vote so he can wipe out the penalties of felons. 

By TimNew - Sept. 23, 2020, 3:21 p.m.
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More and more, the dems are becoming the party of "By any means necessary". 

What are the chances Bloomberg would have done this were felons most likely to vote pub?  

Just like if illegals were more likely to vote pub,  dems would be building the walls and shooting on site.

Winning is all that matters,  no matter what.

By GunterK - Sept. 23, 2020, 3:43 p.m.
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Your vote counts !

Vote Biden/Harris

...endorsed by criminals, Antifa, looters, and illegal aliens

By metmike - Sept. 28, 2020, 11:43 a.m.
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By metmike - Sept. 28, 2020, 12:05 p.m.
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Florida's Attorney General says Michael Bloomberg may be violating camapaign finance laws buy donating $16 million to help felons pay off their debt.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkkzV2_KZCA


Florida Republicans Take Aim At Efforts To Pay Felons' Fines So They Can Vote

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/25/916626848/florida-republicans-take-aim-at-efforts-to-pay-felons-fines-so-they-can-vote

"Something fundamentally wrong"

   

"Daniel Smith, a political science professor at the University of Florida, said his research indicates nearly 775,000 felons in Florida have outstanding fines preventing them from voting. 

   

He applauded the efforts of Meade's group and Bloomberg's $16 million infusion into the fund to pay their outstanding costs. But he said paying off the legal financial debt for all who need it would cost at least $1 billion. 

   

"And there's something fundamentally wrong," Smith said, "about having to benefit from the largesse of an individual to have your voting rights restored."    

   

Smith said there's little evidence helping felons register helps Democrats more than Republicans."


metmike: What a ludicrous statement at the end there.  Of course it help Democrats on a massive scale and in addition, when the republican felon has his fine paid off by the rich Democrat Bloomberg to bribe them to vote Biden do you think the bribe will work?



By metmike - Sept. 28, 2020, 12:19 p.m.
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The racist anti-vote effort by Florida Republicans hits a new low

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-racist-anti-vote-effort-by-florida-republicans-hits-a-new-low/2020/09/27/5d5a7450-fe9d-11ea-8d05-9beaaa91c71f_story.html


metmike: So let's see if I have this right here. Supposedly, there is no evidence that bribing  felons to vote would favor democrats but there is a 4 times higher rate of felons that are black and they vote 90% democratic, but trying to stop this is racist.

What if 99% of felons were white-1% were black in Florida. Would republicans  still be trying to stop this?

 Of course they would.

Skin color has zero to do with this. When you blame racism as motivation for others any time there is a black person(s) involved, you greatly cheapen the word.

When the Big Ten decided to not play football late in the Summer, since blacks make up a high proportion of the athletes, was this racism?

It just couldn't be spun for political gain, so they didn't claim racism.


By metmike - Sept. 28, 2020, 12:23 p.m.
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Millions of American adults are not allowed to vote — and they could change history

https://www.businessinsider.com/what-if-felons-could-vote-2017-7


Incarceration Rate by OECD Country


Undividing America Map 1 (1)


By metmike - Sept. 28, 2020, 12:25 p.m.
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"None of the laws barring ex-felons from voting explicitly mention race. The US, however, disproportionately arrests and convicts people of color. The effect is a huge disenfranchised voting bloc.

Black Americans of voting age are more than four times as likely to lose their voting rights as the rest of the adult population, with one of every 13 black adults disenfranchised nationally, according to The Sentencing Project.

An estimated 2.2 million black citizens are barred from voting in total."Undividing America Map 2The rates of African-American felony disenfranchisement vary significantly by state, with startling numbers in a few: more than one in five African-Americans is barred from voting in Florida (21%), Kentucky (26%), Tennessee (21%), and Virginia (22%).

By metmike - Sept. 28, 2020, 12:28 p.m.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/what-if-felons-could-vote-2017-7


Continued: In some states, the restoration of voting-rights practices shifts based on who's in charge. In Florida in 2007, for example, the clemency board voted to automatically restore voting rights for many with nonviolent felony convictions, but the decision was reversed in 2011.

Whether these policies will change depends on which parties and politicians are elected to the run the states. And those with the most at stake sometimes can't take part in that decision.