As we all know, several states experimented with partial re-opening, this past weekend. Since yesterday, I am already hearing on the news that spikes of new infections and spikes of deaths have already been recorded.
In other words... "we told you so, you should have listened to us. These deaths could have been avoided, had you listened to us and kept everything closed"
How stupid do they think we are ?!?!?!
If the re-opening had indeed caused a spike of new infections, we would see a spike in symptoms in 14 days, and a spike in deaths a few days after that.
It's all about control... control by fear.
The never-Trumpers are delighted to see the destruction of our economy, to see unemployment, misery, poverty and death. The longer this goes on, the more likely Trump will be removed in November.
And the globalists who aim for "depopulation through vaccination" would like to see people too scared to leave their homes. In some places in Europe, they are already considering the use of vaccination certificates,.. without them you are not allowed to leave your house.
It's like a utopian, science-fiction nightmare movie
Gunter,
This has been the most pathetic example of lying and unethical reporting to defeat Trump yet.
The NYT showed that it hates Trump much more than it loves the truth and loves our country.
My state, Indiana ANNOUNCED when we would start reopening stuff here last Friday and it hasn't even happened yet and any effects would not be seen for weeks but was used as an example of how its getting worse because of relaxing the rules.
4 other states that relaxed the rules were used that they claim have been getting worse but it was a big fat lie!
People don't have the data and don't check it so everyone reading and believing the article(mostly liberals) would see it as evidence that we need to keep the shut ins going in full force and opening stuff up is going to kill tens of thousands of people and its Trumps fault for pushing in that direction.
FAKE NEWS on any data supporting that notion.
Will there be more deaths from opening back up?
Of course there will be.
Should we stay closed until the new case numbers are near 0?
The amount of damage that we are doing to ourselves is much, much greater than the virus is doing to us right now, so that slowly opening up in most places is absolutely, scientifically and statistically justified.
One side claims that they are going by the statistics and science and thats why we should stay closed. If that was so, why did they have to completely lie about the statistics in the article below?
Deaths suddenly doubling in BS model
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Started by metmike - May 5, 2020, 2:26 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/51673/
An internal Trump administration report expects about 200,000 daily cases by June. The White House bars coronavirus task force officials from testifying to Congress without approval.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/04/us/coronavirus-live-updates.html
metmike: From the NYT article on the previous page...........FAKE NEWS!
"The sharp increases in the two models are tied to relaxed social distancing and increased mobility in the US. States across the country -- including Florida, Colorado, Indiana, Nebraska and South Carolina -- have eased restrictions in an attempt to revive a sputtering economy and calm restless residents."
metmike: Let's look and see how the relaxed restrictions have really affected those states:
You can get this information at the link below:
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en
Indiana: The ANNOUNCEMENT for the new restrictions took place at 1:30pm, last Friday. Churches can reopen this Friday. Gyms can reopen May 24th for instance. Relaxed restrictions have not even started yet...........but our numbers have been down the last 3 days.
Colorado: New case numbers peaked on April 24th. Yesterday's number was less than 30% of the peak.
South Carolina: The peak was way back on April 6th. Yesterdays new case number was less than half of the peak.
Florida: Peaked on April 17th.
Nebraska: One of the last ones to peak....on May 1st but they always had low numbers from the get go.
United States: Peaked on April 24th. Yesterdays number was the lowest since March 31st.....despite a huge increase in testing picking up many more that were not tested before.
Wow! And those are the examples they give for why its supposedly getting worse(places where its getting better).
Relaxing restrictions has NOT caused new cases to go back up at any of the states mentioned by them. It's almost funny that they put my state, Indiana in there. We just got an announcement of the new restrictions for later this month, just 4 days ago. Don't these reporters even look at authentic facts or do they intentionally make them up?
Answer: They intentionally make them up. They are not dumb. They hate Trump more than they love the truth.
They know that the longer we stay shut down, the more damage it will do to the economy and to the American people and the more likely it will be to defeat President Trump in November.
The MSM has turned into a propaganda to obliterate Trump at any cost sewer. Lying about key coronavirus facts at a time when people are so vulnerable and need authentic facts to understand whats going on to make important decisions in their lives is the most friggin pathetic thing yet.
Addition: Like fake news Chris Cuomo was doing on Monday Night, they are trying to convince people that the irresponsible opening up of the economy like Trump is pushing right now is causing/will cause more deaths.........Trump's fault(that he should and will get blamed for) and he cares more about the economy than he cares about American lives.
Wow. How ironic. They are so blinded by intense hate that they don't see that the apocalyptic damage to the economy is all about American lives!
I just checked that NYT article from Monday again and they have reworded the verbiage that I quoted. Amazing.
This is what they now say:
"Indiana, Kansas and Nebraska were among the states that allowed the reopening of some businesses on Monday even though they were seeing increasing cases, according to a New York Times database. Other states that have partly reopened while cases have continued to rise include Iowa, Minnesota, Tennessee and Texas, according to the data.
About half of all states have now begun reopening their economies in some significant way, which public health experts have warned could lead to a new wave of cases and deaths."
So, along with their bs about the first 5 states, we have 4 more states to look at:
You can get this information at the link below:
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en
Tennessee: Peaked on May 1st. Yesterday was the lowest number since March.
Iowa: Peaked May 2nd. They have always been low
Texas: Peaked on April 9th but not going down much right now.
Minnesota: They are a state that has always had low numbers but they ARE GOING UP. I saved the only 1 that they got right for last.
So they claim this "according to a New York Times database" as their source but then lie or mislead with the data for 8 out of 9 states. Only 1 of those states above, Minnesota is "continuing to rise" as they claim.
Why don't they site the data source? I always do on every iota of data that I have ever posted here. It's paramount to do this for any legitimate entity showing showing data.
Only people that are frauds site their own secret data base as the source of their data because then they can't be fact checked.
I heard somebody today explaining that in deciding when to reopen, there are 2 outcomes. Either you are:
1. Too early. In which case you stop or slow down the opening back up process and even have the option to shut things down again, if needed to delay the opening to later.
2. Too late. In which you are ............too late. You can't go back and open earlier to salvage people jobs/lives because that opportunity passed and went by and the permanent damage is done.
In fact, one can make a good case that in many places without much COVID-19 we are already too late because the self imposed damage to treat the disease is several orders of magnitude greater than the actual disease in those locations.
In a perfect world, if we knew the exact, perfect moment to reopen everything, the shut down damage = COVID-19 damage.
However, even if we reopen everything, everwhere right now, it seems like the shutdown damage will greatly exceed the COVID-19 damage.
I keep hearing one side tell us that we need to stay shut down longer because thats what the science and math is telling us to do. Opening up will cause more deaths.
I've been tracking the coronavirus numbers every day since they started keeping track of them and the science and math that include the massive damage to everyone's lives from the shutdown are saying its time for most places to start re opening.
But they are using a different equation/model to guide them. This is it:
T +R +U +M +P = STOP