Dang, it's about time!
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/14/politics/obama-endorses-biden/index.html
He was going to endorse whomever became the nominee tho earlier chatter seemed to show he liked Bernie.
Yes, waiting to see who the "for sure" nominee was going to be was a smart move. Endorcing the wrong one would have been a huge mistake and told us the actual one was his 2nd choice.
But waiting this long, even after Sanders endorsed him makes the actual reality of the enthusiasm and words he is using to endorse Biden(like he's the best candidate in history) extremely disingenuous and fake.
Why is that?
Because you don't go from NOT endorsing somebody this long, when that person was YOUR VP for 8 years and had obviously clinched the nomination a long time ago and everybody wondering why you have not endorsed, to suddenly one day, like a switch was flipped to him being the most awesome candidate in the history of the Democratic party.
If he was that awesome, we all know the endorsement would have come much sooner.
One can make wild guesses outside of that........which include Obama being part of Dem party inside discussions relating to Biden actually being the worst candidate in history because of his deteriorating cerebral functions and well known inability to be able to run the country(he will just be a figure head if elected and imagine how bad he will look in 4 years).
Trump is an embarrassment because of his character flaws but is a very strong leader.
Biden is an embarrassment because he is incapable of leading.
The office is the president of the United States. We deserve a person that has both, character and top notch leadership abilities.
This time up, we have to choose either one or the other. Character matters a great deal to me, the right kind of leadership does too but agenda counts the most for my vote.
Sad too because Mayor Pete and Bernie both are strong leaders. Maybe Bernie was too crazy but he is very sharp. Mayor Pete just didn't get the support but I feel confident that he would have beaten Trump.
Biden's best hope is that he can hide as much as possible because when people listen to him, it only highlights his massive weakness.
However, in the end, people hate Trump so much and he has so many enemies, its like I've been saying, Bozo the Clown might get more votes in November running on the platform "I am not Donald Trump, vote for me!"
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-04-15/elizabeth-warren-endorses-biden
"One of the central messages of her Biden endorsement is that this election is about governing. Unlike President Trump, who was uniquely unprepared among American presidents for the crisis he now confronts, Biden has a lifetime of experience in public service and specific experience helping to steer the United States out of a deep recession: the 2008-09 meltdown triggered by the subprime mortgage collapse."
metmike:
Bernie Sanders? Yeah, he is a strong leader..but his agenda is too far left.
Mayor Pete? Strong leader, likeable, smart and more rational thinker and agenda. He would beat Trump badly.
Governor Andrew Cuomo? Incredibly strong leader. Gifted communicator and incredibly sharp. Knows how to bring people together. Very high popularity and visibility because of the daily NY coronavirus briefings. Very ethical. More mainstream. He would crush Trump and make a wonderful president with everything in leadership and character that you want in a president............even if I may not agree with everything in his agenda.
Joe Biden: Well past his prime with greatly diminished cerebral functioning. Has a history of corruption because of the nepotism in the Ukraine, when he was supposed to be fighting corruption..........but instead used his position to take part in it to benefit his son, Hunter.
The democrats blew it in 2016 by running one of the worst candidates in history but Biden is much worse in my opinion. At least Hillary Clinton would have been a very strong leader and was somewhat moderate. Being the first woman president would have been a plus, I think.
At least Biden is more likeable than H.Clinton(and Trump)............and so is Bozo the Clown (-:
In researching Chris Cuomo's history of hypocrisy and deceit this morning, I ran across a couple of threads here about his brother Andrew, who I have been promoting as the perfect candidate to replace Joe Biden(the worst candidate in history)...see post above.
I have to withdraw my support for Andrew Cuomo, as he is obviously corrupt. This could be a factor for why he can't run for president.............he wouldn't pass the vetting process because of his blatant corruption.
Sorry Governor Cuomo I still think that you did a great job for NY with the coronavirus crisis and I still like you(but not nearly as much) but now, see your corruption as offsetting all of the good things about you.
Cuomo Corruption?
Started by metmike - Oct. 16, 2019, 12:30 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/41125/
Corruption causing our health care system to collapse
13 responses |
Started by metmike - Oct. 16, 2019, 12:05 p.m.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/25/politics/tara-reade-mom-larry-king/index.html
There is an almost 100% chance that this is the mother of the accuser in this television call. The location of where the call came from is the city in which her mom lived. The circumstances........her daughter working (as a staffer) for a prominent senator in Washington that abused her and she left for that reason.
This is the smoking gun evidence that the accuser is not making it up. There can be no question that this lady is telling the truth.
Under the circumstances, I can't see how Biden won't resign. He is already the least capable person in history to be president because he has no leadership ability, mainly related to embarrassing to watch, massive deteriorating cerebral functions. He has the 100% proven nepotism and corruption in the Ukraine with his son, Hunter that's he's been caught lying about.
How much worse does it need to get?
This is actually a blessing for the Dems. If this came out in September or October, it would have been too late. If this was made up for political reasons, that's when it this would have come out to maximize the damage. At least now, the Dems have a good chance to regroup with Bernie who is the much stronger candidate anyways(even though some of his agenda, like the Green New Fairy Tale, is from the Twilight Zone)
Biden would have been embarrassed badly in any debates with his weakest flaw, the inability to think and communicate getting blatantly exposed. I think Sanders would(will) win debates over Trump. He is very sharp.
This doesn't necessarily have to look that bad for those that have already endorsed Biden-everybody (though it would have been better for them to endorse Sanders, with Sanders being their first choice).
If/when Biden withdraws, he may claim its "for personal reasons" but it will be because those that know better and run the show tell him "it's time to go Joe!".
If/when Biden withdraws, all he needs to do is throw his support behind Bernie Sanders. Biden endorsements, will authomatically become Sanders endorcements and everything is almost cool again.
Better for the democrats in the long run in my opinion.
But I might be wrong. The dems ran a horrible candidate in 2016 with a horrible campaign strategy, then, after they lost blamed everybody but themselves and the candidate.
Hillary was superior to Biden today by light years in my opinion.
Over the last few years, I've said that the dems could win with Bozo the Clown a dozen times because he isn;t Donald Trump.
I still think that. But that's because Bozo knows what city that he is in every day, does not have verifiable, blatant corruption in his past and there is no powerful evidence of him being a sexual predator.
Biden, under those conditions, which are not debatable because they are facts, will represent the absolute worst candidate that any party has running in a presidential election in history.
No way that the democrats can possibly not see it.
However, the hatred for Trump is so great that 30- 40% of the population doesn't even care about who the president is, as long as its not Trump. The dem strategy may actually just continue to be the same one that flopped with the Mueller hoax, impeachment fiasco and now the blame Trump for the coronavirus.
The play book does not call for getting "the best person that we can to run for president"
It calls for obliterating Trump with all sorts of unethical schemes which so far, have all backfired and made the dems look worse than Trump.
I’m a long time fan of Biden due to his ability to compromise with the GOP for the good of the country/unity during several decades as a senator as opposed to being overly partisan like most senators and he’s one of the few Dems I’ve liked due to not being in the progressive wing of the party. However, unfortunately, I do think it is becoming increasingly evident that his cognitive abilities are dropping. He is well past his prime now, sadly. When I then consider these sexual allegations from 1993 as well as questions about nepotism with regard to Hunter, I’ve now decided he probably needs to go. As negatively as I think of Trump, I now think Biden would be a weak candidate.
But here’s the problem for me. I don’t want a socialist for next POTUS (I couldn’t see myself voting for either Bernie or Donald), but Bernie would be more than entitled to the nomination. The good news for me is that we’re electing a POTUS and not a king. He can easily be defeated in 2024 and the other branches could keep Bernie in line til then.
I'm glad to see that even people that like Biden realize it's time for him to go.
I was one of those Biden likers until just over a year ago, after I did research on him. He was the least generous with his money donating to charities of any politician for over a decade, while pretending to be the opposite.
His handlers staged an event where he stopped the car and gave a homeless person something(which was staged in my opinion) to offset his bad reputation for being a scrouge with his money and lack of using his personal wealth to help the less fortunate
I would have considered voting for him in 2016 and actually did, in 2008 because he was on the ticket. I was a never McCain guy then but had other good reasons to vote for Obama............then in 2012 I turned into a never Obama person.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/27/politics/nancy-pelosi-endorses-joe-biden/index.html
Saying some nice things about Biden of course and 4 years ago, every single one of them could be stated more sincerely.
No way that the democrats don't know how drastically things have changed in the last 4 years.
Biden is a much weaker candidate than even Hillary. The main thing they have going for them is that Biden is not Trump...........but the not Trump selling point has eroded greatly over the last year.
To be beat Trump with the NOT Trump selling point, the dems have to capitalize on Trumps flaws.
1. The dem candidate needs to have superior ethics. It's now proven that Biden took advantage of his position in charge of fighting corruption in Ukraine............using it to get his son, Hunter a job he was clearly unqualified for with the most corrupt company in the country.
One should not judge Joe by his son's actions but he brought Hunter into the picture with his actions an since then, we found out what a dirt bag Hunter is. He fathered a child, denied it until the DNA proved it, then wants nothing to do with his son and refuses to pay child support(without the courts making him).
Being a father is the most important job that a man will ever have in his life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepotism
So strike 1 here for Joe on being ethically superior to Trump.
2. New information on rape allegations from 1993 have come forward and they are very powerful. This one is going to bite him the worst I think, especially with the womens vote. This is not just a matter of believing the accuser. The conclusive evidence is there from this tv video that something huge happened and its NOT going away. Strike 2 for Joe.
We know that Trump did plenty of unethical things in his life. He cheated on his wife and was a sexual predator(did not rape any women though). He had bankruptcies and probably ripped people off. Unfortunately for Joe, he no longer has a spotless reputation that shines brightly or higher standards than Trumps. He may actually have raped a woman and he was corrupt while holding the elected office of Vice President........so this is even worse than Trump!
3. To me, this one is the most important and for me, totally disqualifies him from the job. We have had many great or popular presidents that cheated on their wives and even tried to rape a woman(probably Clinton)..........although in todays world we have less tolerance for such behavior. Politicians and corruption? That's nothing new. As long as you're not convicted of a crime, people are willing to overlook it if they like you(they overlooked it with likeable Bill but not with unlikable Hillary). Joe is becoming less and less likeable and more crotchety in his old age but is still light years more likeable than Trump.
However he is also becoming less and less mentally sharp. As evidenced with President Trump, we are not electing a minister or moral mentor. What we want is a strong leader that can take control and make important decisions. Be decisive as well as make compromises. 6 years ago, I think Biden could have made some great compromises and been a great bipartisan president. If he's elected, this is still possible but he probably won't be the one leading the way. He is way over the hill and lost his leadership skills. He is struggling just to repeat the things that he has memorized that he and his people/handlers think will appeal the most to voters.
President Joe Biden will be a figure head, not really running the country. He just does not have it.
This is strike 3 for Joe but in the current environment unconventional, uncharted territory environment, with Trump having so many enemies, especially in the powerful MSM but also politics, the rules have changed. Maybe Joe will get 4 or 5 strikes?
That's political baseball in the world where Donald Trump is president.
A much, much better plan for the democrats would be to run somebody, who stands out being strong, where Trump is weakest. Ethical standards, no corruption, no sexual allegations against them. Joe is not that person. And somebody that is just as sharp as Trump or sharper. Sanders would beat him in debates and not say impulsive things that damage him. Mayor Pete was almost the perfect candidate(of only he was available) very charismatic and flawless communicator with solid, common sense ideas compared to Sanders extreme agenda that will turn off some people. I still like Governor Cuomo but remembered he has some major corruption in his closet(but he is the sort of likeable guy, similar to B. Clinton that causes people to overlook it).
Cuomo would beat Trump.
I am just speculating, based on what I would do if I was running the democratic show.
It's possible that the dems are going to have Biden withdraw for personal reasons but right now is very bad time.
In order to do this, they need:
1. For Biden to come up with a legit sounding reason. If he resigns because of the rape allegations, it will make him and the party look very bad and be an admission of guilt. To have your nominee resign at this stage because of ethical violations would be a huge blow to the party, especially right now, after the video just emerged and people are crying for him to resign. Wow, would that look bad. They need to develop the good sounding story and reason for a few weeks if possible. They might leak that Biden is having health problems for instance, have the rumors out there for a couple of weeks so that everybody is focused on Bidens health problems and not the growing sex scandal. This allows them to control the narrative. Then Biden announces he's out because of health problems and the rape allegation stigma goes away because we are shocked and feel bad for Joe's failing health(and judging from his deteriorating mental abilities-people will buy whatever he says), instead of outraged at what he did in 1993.
2. They have to know who will replace him the day they announce. Suddenly not having anybody at this stage would make the dems look bad...........perfect time for Sanders, since he was #2 or even Cuomo, the much, much better candidate but will the Sanders people be ticked off that their guy got robbed again. Can Biden throw all of his votes and support to Cuomo? If so, then, if they can get Cuomo to run, it's the recipe for a democratic president.
3. Whoever that person is, Biden just throws his support/endorsement to them and tells his endorsers to throw their support to that person. I think that this would be accepted by most Americans that were for Biden. If Biden is gone, its only fair for endorsers to be allowed to pick the next person in line and again, this is just a hypothetical/speculative scenario, not a prediction the they could concoct a very convincing story that makes Joe Bidens endorsement the most powerful of all.
Why is that? All the questions of his failing mental abilities and leaderships skills go away. We know that he can think clearly enough to endorse even if unqualified to be leader of the free world. People are not as concerned about your ethics/corruption as an endorser/recommending vs somebody in office that would be corrupt(I don't think he would be corrupt in office this time around but he was before). The rape allegations will not matter as much. People might not vote for a person that has legit allegations of committing rape against them but they WILL vote for the person they endorse who has flawless ethics.
Former VP Joe Biden’s odds of securing the Democratic Party’s ticket for the 2020 race are lengthening, as a sexual assault accuser’s story continues to develop.
https://www.casino.org/news/joe-biden-odds-lengthen-clinton-advisor-calls-for-him-exit-race/
“New information has emerged supporting Tara Reade’s account of being sexually assaulted by Joe Biden,” Daou tweeted. “Credible rape accusations are disqualifying, or we have NO moral standards.”
Here's what I think is oddly coincidental. Wikipedia has changed their definition of nepotism in the last 6 months. The original one is the 1st one below and clearly makes the Bidens look guilty. The new, 2nd one, below does not appear to apply so much to the Bidens.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepotism
Original definition that had been there for some time(that I had been using here)sed :
Nepotism is the granting of jobs to one's relatives or friends in various fields, including business, politics, entertainment, sports, religion and other activities. Nepotism is the act of using one's power to secure better jobs or unfair advantages for a family member when they may not have the right skill, experience or motivation compared to others
Revised definition:
Nepotism is based on favoritism granted to relatives in various fields, including business, politics, entertainment, sports, religion and other activities. The term originated with the assignment of nephews to important positions by Catholic popes and bishops.
The Biden campaign has until now avoided public questioning about the accusation by Tara Reade.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/30/biden-tara-reade-response-227319
metmike: This has been out there for weeks. If I had been accused of something like this and didn't do it, I would be screaming bloody murder "how dare you make up a story about me doing such a horrible thing!!!!" from the get go.
Much of the MSM was refusing to cover it for quite awhile, so maybe the people controlling Biden thought they could protect him, like they've been doing on his Ukraine corruption and his failing cerebral functioning and it would go away if only Fox covered it and nobody else did.
But then more and more evidence kept piling up. The accusers mom calling The Larry King show about it in the early 90's was really compelling for me.....but still nothing from Biden. WT-heck.
Finally tomorrow we will hear something.
The only way that I believe him is if he admits to doing it and is sincerely sorry. I would be flabbergasted if thats the way it goes. This lady is a lifelong democrat(she was working for Biden for that reason) and we have 6 believable people corroborating her story.
This was not conjured up by republicans or people trying to destroy Biden.
I can't even guess what Biden will say. He could come out with blazing guns telling us vehemently that he never did it and could never, ever do such a thing and tell us this lady must just be confused...........then I will know 100% that he must have done it because you don't go from saying nothing for weeks to suddenly having that position, unless its the position you and your advisors decided will work best to convince people to believe your lie.
Or he could acknowledge to making a pass and being too affectionate with the lady and getting carried away. We have seen video of Joe dozens of times being overly affectionate with unwanted physical contact with women......to the point where several times, they get creeped out or startled.
So we know his long lived track record from the evidence shows a history of using his power for unwanted physical contact with women.............and it is a power thing.
The first few times I observed him doing it, I just thought he was an affectionate sort of guy but this is the vice president in formal settings with complete strangers where physical contact like he has displayed is very inappropriate.
Were it not for his power position as the VP in those settings, no way would a man get away with doing this to women they never met before.
So he was abusing his power in a one way directed(not mutual) physical display of affection. If he is acting this way in front of crowds and cameras, no telling what he might be doing when they are not around.
It's likely that he thought these women enjoyed him smelling their hair or kissing their heads or rubbing on them because they were so enameled by such a powerful person.
This is the sort of thing that we expect out of Trump before he was president. Biden was supposed to be the anti-Trump with impeccable morals and ethics..............not worse than him in the realm of treating women or the realm of corruption.
The response, earlier this week to have a special internet session with Hillary about protecting women and womens rights was obviously damage control in response to these accusations........trying to portray Biden as the complete opposite type person that could have ever done such a thing.
That probably works with alot of people.
This just made me think that he really did it.
metmike: After hearing Biden this morning, MY opinion is that he is lying, with very high confidence(for me). Way too much corroboration from several other sources that at the very least, SOMETHING big happened(the sources say it was this sexual assault), including the 100% certain fact from the video evidence that the poor mom was distraught enough about it to call in to the Larry King show.
Why did the Mom do this?
Because she knew Biden would be running for president in 27 years and wanted to smear him? She even states on the air that the daughter, out of respect for this well known senator wanted to keep it quiet.
Regardless of WHAT EXACTLY happened, something huge clearly happened.
Biden says this did not happen and tells us to check the records.
Well, we know from her mom that she did not want to tarnish his repution and file a formal complaint.
Interesting that she says that her complaint is in his records that he took control of and will not release and during the interview, says cannot be released.
Here's the interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seu_C08yAAM
metmike: Why would they do this and cause them to be sealed, then refuse to make them public and Biden tell us they can't be made public?
All they need to do is release these suddenly sealed records.
Biden says that those records have confidential information about things like conversations with the president. He CLEARLY knows its in there and doesn't want the records released.
Hats off to the MSNBC anchor for being very objective/fair and asking the right questions vs covering for Joe Biden.
I think there is just way too much powerful evidence to prove this lady legit for the MSN to protect Joe and it not really tarnish their credibility on this. They know that he is lying.
So the MSM knows Biden did this and is lying but the dems are going with him as their guy and they want him elected because he's not Trump.
Tough spot for them. They still want the dems to win no matter what but right now, absolutely can't be strongly pro Biden.
Horrible decision by the dems to go with a horrible candidate(still think that they can't be this dumb and Biden will resign for something like a health issue, then everybody will rally behind their non corrupt, non sexual predator, non senile, non proven liar, non Trump candidate).
Biden resigning now would look horrible for his party. He could be waiting for things to settle down a bit(he's lucky we have a pandemic or this would be even bigger).
Maybe he is going to pick his spot to resign(the right thing to do) or maybe they hope people will get tired of hearing about it and accept it, then go on.
This is very possible. If the polls still showing him beating Trump in the midst of this scandal.........and people still indicating that they will vote for him because a fatally flawed Biden that they like is better than a fatally flawed Trump that they hate...then Biden the sexual predator is in. We know that B.Clinton was like this(back in the days before the me too movement) and it didn't hurt him at the polls.
Yes, that one makes sense to me.
Possibly the saddest thing of all would be the damage/set back to the me too movement if Biden is elected.
It would set a major precedent for the future.
The message would be clear.
Sexual assaults are only a secondary consideration when you vote or judge somebody.
Next time that this comes up with another person.........and it will and it could also be political, the response to President Biden's sexual assault will be important.
If he suffered no accountability, based on how society responded, why hold others accountable for doing the same thing?
I was sort of hoping that he would at least acknowledge part of it and express remorse for inappropriate behavior, similar to what he has displayed in public dozens of times with other women.
I might have been able to believe that because it would fit/be consistent with his well known past behavior(his profile).
A flat out denial that anything happened?
How could anybody possibly believe that?
Regarding allegations about sexual misconduct:
Trump: innocent until proven guilty...could be guilty but nothing proven yet
Kavanaugh: innocent until proven guilty...could be guilty but nothing proven yet
Biden: innocent until proven guilty...could be guilty but nothing proven yet
It is simple. Picking and choosing from this list based on political or other preferences implies a double standard, which is the single thing I hate most about politics. Dems and Reps both do it all the time. Anyone who denies this is either full of it or is ignorant. It has dominated politics forever and it will continue. It is maddening. Also, any or all of these allegations could be partially based on political motivations. That includes Biden as the motivation in that case could very well be to help Bernie Sanders since that's who Reade supported.
"Trump: innocent until proven guilty...could be guilty but nothing proven yet
Kavanaugh: innocent until proven guilty...could be guilty but nothing proven yet
Biden: innocent until proven guilty...could be guilty but nothing proven yet"
Thanks very much Larry,
I'm extremely glad that you brought this up, so I can bestr explain my personal position on this.....waiting for the proof to mention it here.
If you note the date above of me first mentioning this "accusation" (and the first time on the forum), it's April 25th. This thread about Biden started on April 14th and I was well aware of these allegations prior to that. I chose NOT to even mention anything because, personally, because of the timing and length of time since the event, I was very skeptical and my gut told me to NOT believe this lady, since this was going to be her word against his word and he had everything at stake, her nothing.
When the video evidence emerged from the 1993 Larry King show, while watching it, I felt horrible for NOT believing this lady. You will note my first post on this topic occurred AFTER this proof that SOMETHING REALLY BAD happened to this lady because of inappropriate conduct between Biden and her. This lady could not have possibly known that this video existed, so it was an indisputable, independent corroboration and proof of her story. Something that never existed in the Bret Kavanaugh case.
So you can see that Biden WAS innocent until proven guilty. I refused even to give it coverage here until this proof came forward.
If a similar piece of evidence had emerged in the Bret Kavanaugh case, I can tell you with 100% certainty that I would have deemed the guy guilty of inappropriate conduct. To be completely honest, I might have attributed part of it to a high school boy's immaturity, if you remember the circumstances but with 100% confidence, would have deemed this irrefutable evidence that for the best of our country and his party, he should immediately withdraw his name because this "alleged" sexual assault would have been irrefutably proven.
Turns out that it was only her vague recollection, with no corroboration and she didn't even know the dates or place and lied about her fear of flying as well as some other things. Then, I watched the testimony(with an open mind)........Kavanaugh had his detailed calendar/journal with notes about everything that he kept for that time period, which contradicted her allegation about his whereabouts during the time frame that she "thought" that this happened in. So for me, in weighing all the evidence, I went with the evidence.
However, I'm convinced that Bret Kavanaugh lied too. He was asked repeatedly about his drinking by the democrats and whether he had ever suffered a black out. As an alcoholic (who gave up drinking many years ago) I've had many hundreds of black outs....and many of them occurred while just drinking beer( a case of beer in 1 day is plenty enough to do that).
Based on testimony of others, there is no doubt that Kavanaugh drank beer to the point of it being excessive, especially in college. Maybe he isn't an alcoholic, I would have to know more about his drinking to judge that.
However, I find it almost impossible to believe his story that he remembers everything that happened, every time that he was drunk. There are probably very few people that didn't have too much too drink a few times and are foggy on the details.
But I still think he was extremely smart and had to answer like this because he knew why the democrats kept asking him this over and over and over again.
If he had admitted to being drunk 1 time and not remembering what happened very well, they would have pounced on that to say: "You were drinking beer at this party and you acknowledged to having had drank so much beer in the past that it affected your ability to remember what happened during that evening, how do we know that your beer drinking that night did not affect your ability to remember what REALLY happened?"
So the truth in this case would have been used to obliterate his credibility unfairly.
Of course there is a tiny chance that he drank too much that night and this really did happen and he does not remember it but there is ZERO corroborating evidence.....just wild speculation that maybe he had a black out this particular night and thats why he can't remember it.
Regardless, I was objective enough to see what I considered a lie by him.
April 24, 2020: A 1993 clip from Larry King’s CNN talk show unearthed by The Intercept shows an interview with an unnamed caller—alleged by Reade to be her late mother, Jeanette Altimus—describing how her daughter had “problems” while employed by a prominent senator, but felt there was no safe way to report it. The woman also said her daughter did not go public with the story “out of respect” for the senator.
So under the "innocent until proven guilty" fair justice and judging dynamic, what would be proof to you or anybody else that Biden or Kavanaugh did what they did?
After watching the video proof, I went back and reviewed the circumstances with more objectivity and CHANGED my opinion............based on the proven guilty evidence.
Is my mind made up? Almost but I can change again if something new comes out. I was hoping that Biden would provide something other than a denial, then I learned that his office took control of the records this lady says her complaint would in and they are sealed and Bidens response in the interview about, instead of saying he will release the records.........which an innocent person would IMMEDIATELY do, he insisted that it couldn't possibly be there(so he won't release those records) but instead, told us to look in another set of records(that he already knows do not or no longer have this).
My confidence in his guilt was high before this but the bs alarm bells were really going off in my head when he defended NOT releasing a particular set of records.
Anybody reading this that was completely innocent under these circumstances would have not just have agreed to ALL the records being released but INSISTED on it.
Think about it. That would be the most powerful evidence you could have.
At this point, if they do finally release those records, I will be very suspicious that they were changed.............otherwise, why would they taken the unusual step to seal them, timed with his running for president(if they were sealed right after he left office, I might have been slightly more inclined to believe the story) refuse to deny access, then suddenly allow access?
His lack of addressing this for so long bothers me too. Joe Biden, in recent months has been pretty dang feisty in defending himself. Why was he so silent on this particular issue for so long? If it was me and I never did such a thing, I would have been screaming bloody murder from the get go.
Just speculation on my part but I think that he and his handlers were waiting to see how it played out and hoped that it would just go away because the MSM was not covering it................(or metmike either) for the reasons mentioned above.
When the video smoking gun emerged 2 weeks ago and people like me changed our minds(as did the MSM) then there was an additional long period of silence............clearly waiting to see how much traction it would get.
When you are completely innocent, you don't wait to see if your accuser is going to be believed or can come up with any evidence.......... you deny the false accusations RIGHT FROM THE START.
I would appreciate others thoughts on this as I could be completely missing something here.
BTW, this lady is a democrat(obviously, she worked for Biden).
She was a Bernie Sanders supporter(like she would support Biden after what he did) so I thought about that already.
But she waited to say something until AFTER Biden had it wrapped up. If she wanted Sanders to beat Biden and use this to help Sanders, her timing says the complete opposite........though I have not completely dismissed that theory in my mind as a potential motive on her part.
I just read this from a poster at a weather bb who is not a Dem:
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"Here's the transcript of what Reade's mother said on Larry King Live:
'KING: San Luis Obispo, California, hello.
CALLER: Yes, hello. I’m wondering what a staffer would do besides go to the press in Washington? My daughter has just left there, after working for a prominent senator, and could not get through with her problems at all, and the only thing she could have done was go to the press, and she chose not to do it out of respect for him.
KING: In other words, she had a story to tell but, out of respect for the person she worked for, she didn’t tell it?
CALLER: That’s true.'
Now, let's add in what Reade told the Washington Post last year when they interviewed her:
In The Post interview last year, she laid more blame with Biden's staff for 'bullying' her than with Biden.
'This is what I want to emphasize: It’s not him. It’s the people around him who keep covering for him,' Reade said, adding later, 'For instance, he should have known what was happening to me. . . . Looking back now, that’s my criticism. Maybe he could have been a little more in touch with his own staff.'
How would Biden more in touch with his staff have somehow addressed a supposed sexual assault by Biden? That doesn't make sense at all. It does make sense if her complaint was about "bullying" or other workplace issue as it comports with the idea that 'its not him' and that Reade's primary criticism is that Biden 'could have been a little more in touch with his own staff.'
Take the direct quote from Reade's mother:
'could not get through with her problems at all, and the only thing she could have done was go to the press, and she chose not to do it out of respect for him.'
Why would Reade respect Biden for sexually assaulting her? Reade's mother says that Reade 'could not get through with her problems' which sounds like she couldn't get through to Biden/office management about staff bullying or workplace problems. Why would Reade say: 'he should have known what was happening to me'? That makes even less sense in the context of the problem being due to Biden himself. Wouldn't someone referencing an assault by an individual say 'he knows what he did' or 'he should remember what he did to me' ???
Why would Reade say that Biden should've known what was happening to her if he's the alleged source of her problem? If someone physically assaults you, unless they are sleepwalking, whacked out on drugs, or drunk -- they *KNOW* what they did to you.
Anyway, that's just one such example in which Reade's comments don't actually match the evidence that is supposed to corroborate her allegations of sexual assault. There's also the history of Reade outright changing the details of her account and completely contradicting her previous statements to the media as well as contradicting her own blogging and essays.
Here is example 2: https://www.theunion.com/opinion/columns/alexandra-tara-reade-a-girl-walks-into-the-senate/
This is an essay written by Tara Reade in April of 2019 recounting her time in Washington DC and working in Biden's office.
Here's the first glaring contradiction:
'But this is not a story about sexual misconduct; it is a story about abuse of power. It is a story about when a member of Congress allows staff to threaten or belittle or bully on their behalf unchecked to maintain power rather than modify the behavior.'
Again, we see the references that Reade makes to being upset with Biden's staff and we also see an explicit denial that sexual misconduct occurred. In fact, Reade specifically describes what she says Biden actually did: 'Sen. Biden would touch me on the shoulder or hold his hand on my shoulder running his index finger up my neck during a meeting.'
Remember the Washington Post interview that Reade granted in 2019? Here's more of what she told WaPo: 'In interviews with The Post last year, Reade said that Biden had touched her neck and shoulders but did not mention the alleged assault or suggest there was more to the story. She faulted his staff, calling Biden “a male of his time, a very powerful senator, and he had people around saying it was okay.'
In neither instance, not in her own essay or in her interviews with the Post, did Reade mention Biden digitally penetrating her or anything even remotely approaching a sexual assault. In fact, she EXPLICITLY denies sexual misconduct in her own essay. And, in both her essay and in the WaPo interviews, she complains of staff bullying and other problems with Biden's staff because she says they didn't take her complaints seriously.
Here's the final example of Reade significantly changing her story or outright contradicting herself. It's actually the most compelling example, in my opinion, because there's no justifiable explanation that can explain such a discrepancy. Remember Reade's 2019 essay from above? Let's look at how she describes her trip to Washington DC as she starts her new job in Joe Biden's office: 'I was beyond excited, I packed up my Nissan and cats, told my boyfriend goodbye and headed alone on the cross country drive to Washington D.C.'
Ten years earlier, Reade wrote a blog post that gives a materially different description of her move to DC to work for Biden. Here's what Reade had to say back then: 'As the plane descended into Washington D. C., my Siamese cat, Cleo, meowed loudly from under my seat. Cleo had been through all my many moves, men, and a couple of Los Angeles earthquakes. As the lights of Washington D.C. reflected through the plane’s windows, the excitement of my new job as a Senate staffer lay ahead of me.
This can be seen here: https://archive.li/6ykxK#selection-6609.0-6609.326
In one account, Reade drives alone cross country in her Nissan from California to Washington DC. This was a pretty significant event in her life involving a new job and a very long drive alone. Anyone who's ever made a similar drive knows how memorable such a trip would be. The only consistent detail between the two accounts was that Reade moved to DC and that her cat made the trip with her.
Ironically, the cat provides for an interesting reminder that such a discrepancy isn't just an accidental slip of the tongue. The cat is literally MEOWING under her seat on the plane in her blog post back in 2009. That's an extremely vivid detail. Should we believe 2009 Tara Reade? Or 2019 Tara Reade? Or 2020 Tara Reade? How do you misremember such a vivid portrait of a cat MEOWING under your seat while your plane while descends into DC and instead turn it into a 2600 mile solo trip in your Nissan?
Either Ms. Reade has a poor memory, or she's someone who likes to tell a good story and has zero qualms about substituting material details in her story. Like, say, a Boeing jet suddenly becoming a Nissan automobile, or unwanted touching of the neck/shoulders suddenly becoming the forced digital penetration of one's genitals and a full-fledged sexual assault. A common mistake, I'm sure. Happens all the time. I was just telling my wife last week that I couldn't remember if I flew on a plane the first time I went to Colombia back in 2005, or if Juan Valdez guided me on his donkey through the Andes. See what I mean? Such an easy mistake to make.
Like I said previously, there's ample evidence that Tara Reade's story lack credibility. If people want to ignore the red flags because they WANT to believe Biden committed a sexual assault then that's fine. Just remember that millions of Democrats did the same thing during the Kavanaugh saga because they WANTED it to be true. Evidence be damned."
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Like I said, innocent until proven guilty. Based on the above, there's ample reason to feel that Ms. Reade lacks credibility. Most glaringly to me is to say in 2019 that she flew to DC with her cat under her seat while in 2009 she said she drove cross country with her cat for that same trip.
I just found this link:
Also, keep this in mind:
'First of all, it is important to know that Tara Reade has gone by several different names in the past, including Tara Reade Moulton, Tara McCabe, Alexandra Tara McCabe, and Alexandra Tara Reade. In 2016 and 2017, she had a twitter account under the name Tara McCabe, where she retweeted praise for Joe Biden’s efforts to end sexual assault, as well as condemnation of Vladimir Putin."
From here:
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/04/29/what-is-disturbing-about-tara-reades-allegations/
Thanks very much Larry!
This is evidence and information that I'd not heard of or read about, which I will check out and dial into my opinion, which would be adjusted if all of this is true.
Again, I was actually assuming that there was nothing to this from the get go and did not want it to be true, in fact, as mentioned, my gut told me initially that something that comes out this many years later is to be suspected.
What I would like to see is the records that were sealed in Delaware be opened that Biden insists that he won't open because there is nothing in there.
This means everything. If he has the evidence to clear himself, since this lady says that her complaint is there, why wouldn't he release the records immediately.
He claims there is confidential stuff with the president that shouldn't be released.............oooops, there it goes again, my bs meter is going off so loudly its hard to type (-:
That completely contradicts what the U of D gives for their reason for not releasing the information.
And you can't tell me that the VP's people and U of D haven't communicated on this, so one would think that their reasoning would be consistent.............and of course they could be released.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/30/politics/biden-senate-papers/index.html
I don't know whats in there. If I had to guess, it would maybe just be a complaint about Biden's continually touching her against her wishes but the position that all this information is sealed and can't be released or trapped in the system being processed for another year or there being important national security type conversations or, that they can't be released until 2 years after Joe Biden leaves public office???
He left public office in early 2017, Joe Biden has been a private citizen for over 3 years and thats how long its been since he left public office.
He's running again for public office but he left public office 3 years ago.
Was this rule made up ahead of his decision to run for president to protect him from something thats in there?
Dang, this is totally inconsistent with the way it should be.
A person running for the most important job in America, with a long history in politics, who is supposedly running on his record in office............and we are told that those records of him in office are being hidden from us until 2 years AFTER he leaves office?
We have a right to see those records BEFORE voting to know everything good and bad about him.
At this point, if he doesn't authorize the release of the records it will look like he's covering something up and he must know that.
If there's nothing bad in there........we'll have those records pronto.
I will give a nice analogy with Trump not releasing his tax returns. We all know that Trump could have release the tax returns if he wanted to. But there's likely some things in there that he would be cruxified for by the MSM. Nothing illegal, as there is a 0% chance that Trump actually did his own taxes. He paid $300/hour tax accountants tons of money to do 100 pages of work to get it right. These firms may find loopholes and other favorable methods but they follow the law and you can bet that the IRS scrutunizes a return like Trumps closely.
So is Trumps lying about being able to release his returns the same as Bidens? We have people claiming that Trump is a crook but is there any credible evidence that he cheated on his taxes?
Let's say that Trump did cheat(make that, his accountants cheated) . Is this the equivalent of sexually assaulting a woman in the manner that he is being accused of?
We know that Trump does not do his own taxes but is responsible for the people that he pays to do his taxes.
With Biden, this wasn't somebody that Biden paid to work for him and then he covered it up. This is actually Joe himself being accused. It would be as if Trump, himself did all of his taxes and intentionally cheated and was trying to cover it up and we had a person at the IRS from 25 year ago, coming out to tell us that he had a conversation with Trump and saw the cheating return that proves it but Trump won't let us see his tax records and the IRS is telling us different stories about why they can't release his tax records until 2 years after he leaves office, while Trump tells us a different one.
Mike, thanks for deleting that very last post. But I didn't mean for this post to also be deleted:
The typical political double-standard is in play and in this case it is the Dems' turn to be hypoctrites:
Thanks Larry,
I looked over this information that I didn't know about before and its clear that this lady is not a very credible person. Appears to be a nut case.
Considering the new information, I will go back to my original position, before posting anything about it here and being skeptical of the accusation.
However, I feel that Biden should release the records at the University of Delaware to make everyone more confident that there are no complaints in those records.
Think about what would happen if he released the records and nothing was there.
This would completely go away for him and this lady would go crawl back into a hole, looking very silly.
So why doesn't he release the records?
Mike, I agree that he should release the records. Absolutely! I'd like to know more. He could still have done it (though hopefully not) even if she is a nutcase without credibility. Also, fellow Dems should demand it and not be friggin hypocrites. This is why I generally hate politics!!
Tara Reade’s allegations against Joe Biden demand action.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/03/opinion/joe-biden-tara-reade.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/politics/joe-biden-national-archives-tara-reade/index.html
"As part of his sweeping denial of any sort of inappropriate behavior with Reade, Biden sought to cast himself as bending over backward to be transparent about the existence of any such complaints."
"There is only one place a complaint of this kind could be -- the National Archives," Biden said in a statement released last Friday. "The National Archives is where the records are kept at what was then called the Office of Fair Employment Practices. I am requesting that the Secretary of the Senate ask the Archives to identify any record of the complaint she alleges she filed and make available to the press any such document. If there was ever any such complaint, the record will be there."
Except, well, there's a problem.
Because the secretary of the Senate -- Julie Adams -- released a statement on Monday that makes clear she can't legally do what Biden is asking. "The Secretary has no discretion to disclose any such information as requested in Vice President Biden's letter of May 1," she wrote.
Now, do I think the Biden team knew that the secretary of the Senate couldn't legally ask the National Archives for any personnel paperwork related to Reade when the candidate put out his statement on Friday? I don't. (Yes, many conservatives would disagree -- insisting Biden and his campaign knew this was a dead end.)
But whether or not they knew that the secretary of the Senate wouldn't comply with the request actually doesn't even matter all that much at this point. Because the fact, now, is this: Biden has a transparency problem.
Biden's path forward here is plain: Ask the University of Delaware to open his papers and search for anything related to Reade in any way, shape or form. If Biden is right that there are no personnel matters in his Senate papers, then this is a simple ask since nothing about Reade will be found!"
metmike: This has been out there long enough and is causing some serious damage now to Biden, so that if these records exonerated him completely, I assume that he/they would have released them.
The only thing that makes sense to explain it would be if there is something in there he is hiding. I am open for suggestions about what other reason there is for them not being released. They can't be release is silly. Biden has the authority to release them.
I seriously think that Biden is such a horrible candidate and almost anybody, including Hillary Clinton would be a better candidate that the democrats must realize this and will see or do see the writing on the wall(but would never say it publicly).
If Biden was sharp for instance and if he did not have the Ukraine corruption as VP, then I can see protecting him because he has a lot to offer and if this can't be proven, people will see that.
But the only thing that he offers is that he isn't Donald Trump. Bozo the clown can offer that too........without corruption and probably is not confused much of the time.
Get somebody with leadership skills, cerebral functioning that has not deteriorated greatly and no corruption in their background. Corruption killed Hillary in 2016. Get a candidate that doesn't have all these negatives with very few positives.
Hey, I'm voting for Trump and I WANT Biden to run because he is very beatable, so my opinion is not personal.
The dems just can't be so dumb as to run somebody this damaged. He's the one that got the votes in the primaries, so he earned it and he's the people choice..............which is how its supposed to go but I still think that there is a good chance that he will resign for health reasons and throw his support to a much more qualified candidate, which one would think has to be Sanders because that's who finished behind him.
Personally, I think that Andrew Cuomo would crush Trump(though Cuomo has some corruption in his past) as would mayor Pete, who basically has everything that you would want.
If Biden bowed out and Sanders did NOT get the bid, the Sanders people would be irate and might not vote for that other person out of protest..........unless Sanders somehow agreed to support that other person(no way).
My youngest son thinks Sanders is the best politician in history and is hoping for Sanders.