While she said it’s “too early” to pick a candidate to back for the 2020 election, Ocasio-Cortez said backing the Green New Deal would be a smart move for any nominee.
“It’s a winning issue. We’re talking about 67 percent of Iowa voters in the caucus support the Green New Deal and now 91 percent would prefer a candidate that’s talking about it,” Ocasio-Cortez said Thursday.
“I mean there's so much work to do in transitioning to 100 percent renewable energy and we have to do that work with union labor.”
whenever cortez opens her mouth you can count on her voters to be red faced
She’s a bright young forward looking candidate.
She’s right, we need to get off fossil fuels. Get used to folks like her, they’re the future.
Does the GOP have anyone under 45 ? Not just candidates, anyone ?
I think the Democratic Party is smart enough not to let her and her group drag us off into the ditch like the republicans allowed Trump to do.
Let’s all hope anyway.
she is bright? do tell. on this one small internet board there have been posts after posts of her outright ignorance...they are here and easy to find. Look them up or better yet just do some general reading and get back to us
“she is bright? do tell. on this one small internet board they have been posts after posts of her outright ignorance...they are here and easy to find. Look them up or better yet just do some general reading and get back to us”
A person can be bright and ignorant.
There’s ignorance and there’s stupidity.
One can be changed, the other not so much. Some would do well to know the difference.
oh you are so right mcfarmer...a college grad now in our congress should at least know the basics of economics, business, our constitution and our bill of rights, climate change making, a pay roll, and last but not least killing every cow on the planet
"She’s a bright young forward looking candidate."
I think that you are right on this mcfarmer.
Based on Friday's world wide protesting and walking out of schools by our youngest generation...........to protest the fake climate crisis which only exists on the most extreme/busted global climate models which have all been wrong for 20 years, she is the leading edge/beginning of what this next generation has been taught(indoctrinated) with regards to our climate and energy policies.
I don't say this as criticism but as fact.
These kids are being taught that there is a climate crisis. The MSM broadcasts the fake weather/climate crisis. Why would they think otherwise?
What will cause them to KNOW that there really isn't a climate crisis? ...........that the planet is having a climate and CO2 optimum and climate disinformation crisis?
I can't think of what that will be. The sources that inbedded the crisis into their heads...........for political and other reasons are not all of a sudden going to have a metamorphose/scientific awakening and change their tune.........to reverse the educational damage done to these children. The politics will NEVER change, no matter the weather/climate, so the strategy will NEVER change.
That's why, 12 years after Al Gore won the Nobel Peace price with his Inconvenient Truth and for predicting the weather and climate wrong.............the same strategy is still being used...........even ramped up with the critical time frame and crisis which..................this time is for real and now, with so much confidence that they can actually pin down the exact year........2030..........because the science is so precise and settled, so that it completely eliminates any doubt.
And anybody that questions it.............is a denier to be ignored.
So none of these young protesters and their classmates being taught the same stuff will ever have an opportunity to view authentic climate science with an open mind. Their belief system and minds have already been determined.
Catastrophic man made climate change from CO2 pollution is being taught up there with the law of photosynthesis........but one of them, now is being seen by this generation as being the key to life on this planet in the future and its not the one that was taught 30 years ago as the key to life.
What does this mean for our future?
I mentioned this on the globalization/progressive thread.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/25668/
It means that the younger generation, when they are of voting age will continue to vote for people like Cortez. Her ideas represent a world that they believe in. She is the tip of the iceburg.
Their belief system, socialized government, globalization, progressive policies, .......etc is not going to change, it's only going to be magnified politically as they age, until they have enough votes to control the politics.
It's almost impossible to see this being avoided.
Those that promote those ideas have control of the education system............and there's is nothing that will stop it. The train left the station over a decade ago.
......roflmfao .....
=== The New Green Deal ....
This is in spite of the fact that, historically, many of us(including me) were much more liberal when we were young.
This is different.
When we grew up, journalists followed high standards on providing objective, accurate information. Today, they are activists abusing the freedom of the press to impose their belief systems on the public.
I live in one of the best school districts in Indiana and am not referring to them with the statements coming up because they do a wonderful job educating our children.
However, the school system has become an indoctrination device for teaching bad climate science. I was speaking to a group of 5th graders 2 years ago and discussed the benefits of CO2, greening up the planet and the science teacher had no idea that was happening.
And why would they?
They aren't climate scientists or meteologists or biologists. They teach whats in the books and what the latest is based on what is sold as mainstream climate science. We also have a tendency to strongly emphasize protecting life and the environment when teaching kids because we want them to be raised with good principles and ethics.
This is why the climate crisis has such meaning right now in the lives of so many young people.
"That extra word, “global,” suggests why international players today aren’t terribly enthused by the Democrats’ plan. The program -- or what little of it can be adduced from what’s now largely a slogan -- is focused entirely on green investment in the U.S. The basic notion that climate change is a global problem that requires a global solution seems to have been forgotten."
For instance, China and India's CO2 emissions continue to soar higher. The US has no control of that. In fact, the Paris Climate Accord even allows for that............for the next 12 years.
So how is the Green New Deal in the US, 1 country, going to save the planet?
Even the Climate Accord, by allowing the poor/undeveloped countries to increase emissions recognizes the fraudulent nature of that objective.
But then, the Climate Accord is only a globalized socialism plan, transferring wealth from the rich counties to the poor countries...........and was never going to do anything to affect the climate...........even if it was based on authentic science.
Don’t get me started on science teachers.
A few years ago we had a school wide program to incorporate Africa in our daily lessons for a week. Nothing wrong with that, American education is very Eurocentric by its very nature.
I was lumped in with the science teacher to develop ideas for our areas, coordinate the lessons with each other. She said she wanted to use her “astrology” unit. I grinned and said, you mean astronomy. “No, astrology, the study of constellations and such.”
I let that pass not knowing what to say. Then I asked what constellations she wanted to teach. “You know, the Big and Little Dipper, North Star, the basic ones.” I reminded her that most of Africa was in the Southern Hemisphere and they didn’t have the same constellations. She looked at me like I was a looney tune.
We didn’t cooperate very well after that.
So, was she ignorant or stupid ? A little of both me thinks.
and you drove right past all of our precious points...this "person" you refer to was taught everything she does not know by our once upon a time very good education systems ,,,,,,,now dominated by the people metmike describes daily.
A "passing test" given to a longtime land lord was given to me. It was his as he entered high school from 8th grade. I would confidently say a senior in todays high schools would struggle mightily with answering about 20% accurately. Todays schools spit kids out the door with fake graduation rates while spending hundreds of thousands of dollars foolishly
https://news.grabien.com/story-young-americans-hilariously-explain-why-lowering-voting-age
more information on our under educated "youts"
“and you drove right past all of our precious points...this "person" you refer to was taught everything she does not know by our once upon a time very good education systems ,,,,,,,now dominated by the people metmike describes daily. ”
Translation please ?
I know some wonderful teachers here locally and feel that often they get slammed unfairly for the results that have more to do with the environment at home.
A buddy of mine from the gym told me this story.
He was a 5th grade teacher at an inner city school for a decade but on the waiting list to get a similar position in a higher income area school.
At his first school, alot of his students were doing poorly. They wouldn't turn in homework or study for tests. Parents were upset at the grades their kids got and he was sort of treated like a failure..........and felt that way.........very frustrated, which is why he was trying to get out of there.
After he got the job at the new school, he was the same guy. Same grade, basically the same subjects and same teaching style but at a school 10 miles away.
His kids were all getting A's and B's and he was treated as, and felt like a success.
As a chess coach for 3,000 kids over the past 25 years at 5 schools, I've been blessed with being in the "nice" school district. Great everything about the kids, parents, faculty, facilities. I've also spent some time at some of the inner city schools trying to assist those programs. If I was there permanently, instead of where I am now permanently(I am here because this is where my kids and now grandkids went/go to school) my productivity would be MUCH less.
Not many parents sign their kids up to play chess. Kids are less interested in participating is an after school endeavor like that.
At the chess tournament that I ran a week ago, we had 34 different schools there. More kids from effluent schools vs low income schools. At one particular low income school(same one the teacher in the above example first taught at and where my wife went to school 50+ years ago) we had 6 kids signed up. Their chess coach, who also teaches there provides their transportation by getting a bus and bringing them with him. No parents show up. He's been doing this for 20 years.
At the schools of mine that are the same age group, I had 90 kids signed up. All of them had at least 1 parent. Many had both parents there.
This great teacher/chess coach from the inner city is having a positive impact on the lives of the kids that he teaches/coaches. Even if I was the world's lousiest chess coach, my students and teams will always crush his.
So one of the keys to our education systems success is at the family level.
Do private schools do better because they hire all the best teachers or is it because they have parents that make a bunch of money(because they valued education or have a good one) and want to spend it sending their kids to the best schools, while they hammer home the importance of an education.........at home. This causes the best schools to be the best schools.
There is more to it but you obviously get the point.
And this is why affirmative action programs are needed.
Your story would seem to be a common situation. One thing that rankles me is when folks look down on young people that make bad choices in life. I would ask those folks what their life would be like if they grew up in those neighborhoods. Yes, there are those who rise above, absolutely. They are as common as those born to privilege who manage to fail in life.
In my all white school I saw the advantages gained by being born with money. It’s not so much race as economics.
Call it white privilege, whatever, but it is real.
When my kids were growing up they didn’t have to decide which gang to belong to in order to keep from being shot. Not the case for many. If I was stopped by a patrolman I never gave my safety any thought.
Face it, if you’re a white male, raised in a family that cares, you are ahead of the overwhelming majority of people in this world the moment you first cry out.
Deny it all you want, but it is there and it is getting worse.
Obviously I am not referring to you (Mike) and your work.
For many Mr Trump personifies white privilege.
you know what mcfarmer if Trump means only white priv and nothing else than jesse Jackson, al Sharpton, Maxine waters, e. Cummings, and sparticus himself mean nothing more than they are race baiting bigots...2 sides to every street and yet our only black supreme court justice Thomas never once used his poor background for not making it in life...even after he suffered thru a lynching at the hands of anybody who wanted to blame others for their stake in life
and further to your point what has been the lib repsonse? Well to lower standards of course and give those poor kids more reasons to fail in life. Don't take my word for it do your self a favor and read some of the many things a great black author {thomas sowell} has to say about what libs have done to poor people and their chance at a good education in todays American lib controlled system
should of added how unfair any system is especially in education that is not merit based
mcfarm,
The reality is the reality and not dealing with it, makes it worse.
My Dad grew up in the inner city of Detroit, often on welfare and never met his Dad.
Got a degree from the University of Detroit, was an industrial engineer for 40 years for Ford and turned out to be the best dad/husband on the planet(with nobody as a male role model growing up).
Because he did it, using the same opportunities that others in the same boat have, should we hold those others to similar standards of actions/performance?
He had 3 siblings. They did ok but not with college degrees or any level of success matching his. But they had a wonderful Mom too, who did everything right, despite the challenging circumstances. She actually kicked the dad out of the house because she figured no dad is better than a drunk, irresponsible poor excuse of a dad and she knew how she wanted to raise her kids............had the blue print etched in her mind.
What about the parents that don't have any clue? There are alot of them you know. They may have been raised by parents that didn't have a clue. It's not like the government requires parenting classes...............DANG, what a great idea! If we required for low income parents on welfare or assistance to take these classes, they could be more like my Dad's mom!!!!!!
Some the organizations that I volunteer for require taking child protection classes. I remember a few facts from the first time that were powerful.
They asked the question.
1. If 2 people, that have out of control lives get together and have a child. if they can't control their own lives, how can they properly manage the life of another person that requires even more challenges?
2. Every person convicted of the death penalty was violenty abused as a child.
The kids today in these environments can't be held to the same standards as those not in those environments. They grow up damaged and still need assistance..........which those of us that had the best environments OWE to them.
Not just because we got lucky but because that's the right thing to do when somebody has been blessed with more talents that enabled them to achieve more things.
My successful Dad could have decided that he worked for everything he got and so should everybody else.
Did he?
If he did, his son would not be expressing compasssion for less fortunate people right now because that's what he taught all 6 of his children.
Well said Mike.
Nature and nurture, sometimes it’s a constant battle. A single mother today has a very difficult time controlling the nurture part. Working single mother ? Really tough. No family to support her ? Nearly impossible.
I agree somehow the cycle has to be broken, broad stroke policies aren’t going to do it. My opinion it has to be one on one, child by child.
Programs like your chess tournament and your friend who takes his students are shinning examples of what needs to be done.
Those kids need to see that the world isn’t all like what they see everyday.
“should of added how unfair any system is especially in education that is not merit based”
That’s a common error. Simplistic thinking.
Will the fastest always win the race if they start at different places ? Some will, some won’t. A person handicaped at birth sometimes needs a helping hand.
mcfarmer, conservative thinking to save this nation is hardly simplistic. Simplistic thinking is when you take from A and give to B, social engineer at every turn, use silly title 9 rules which help lead to the latest college admission scandal and little else and even reparation talk as in taking money from those who never owned slaves to give to those who were never slaves. Libs have climbed in every nook of life and will not stop from cradle to grave. Damn, get over yourself.
Also find it more than odd {and arrogant} that you call Victor David Hansen and Thomas Sowell, 2 of the brightest individuals left in this country "simple thinkers". Those guys are driving the very points you call "simplistic"....makes guy wonder just who is simplistic here?
I get it, you’re angry. You’re angry because you see the march of progress going right over you. You’re angry because your standard bearer is someone who says things any decent person would cringe at. You’re angry because the good ‘ol US of A isn’t what you knew as you grew up, and it won’t be. For many good reasons and some bad.
You have to get an oar in the water and row if you want to help direct this country. The United States is a progressive country, always has been. The future belongs to the young, they will make it as they see fit.
As to your title nine reference, I tried to find any media mention of a connection but was unable to. I briefly thought maybe you came up with it yourself. Could you direct me to some news article that links title nine to the current scandal ?
Title nine has been probably the most successful educational development since desegregation. Why is it something you object to ?
look more simple thinking.....I am shocked again. These are very similar to the yapping one often hears on cnn and msnbc and read in most any paper across our country today....very simplistic bordering on psychotic. They don't much like this country. They certainly have no use for our founding fathers or our incredible founding documents. The do not believe in our sovereignty. All they know for sure is America is the cause of all evil. Remember good old Peter Struyck and Lisa Page....we were here to save those dumb bastards in fly over country...we can smell them when they walk into wall mart
I'm still interested in the title nine reference.
you really think you going to get response from somebody you called "simple" ...go fly a simple kite
Sorry, didn’t mean to hurt your feelings.
..... these farting cows are bad enough
Updated: 23:46 EDT, 26 March 2019
metmike: Why no hearings on Climate Change?
The hearings that we should be having are to establish who the guilty party's are who insist on dumbing down the world by twisting the best weather/climate into a climate crisis..............and, more importantly, why are they being allowed to use the most extreme versions of the broken climate models(with impunity) that are nothing more than simulations of the atmosphere from programming computers to project the next 100 years?
Then we should hold those people accountable for the climate disinformation crisis.
The Green New Deal is just a more extreme version of the Paris Climate Accord/Deal. That deal also includes us donating tens of billions of dollars to countries that the UN tells us get our money..............to spread the wealth.
We are already getting a massive, global green new deal:
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth
From a quarter to half of Earth’s vegetated lands has shown significant greening over the last 35 years largely due to rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide, according to a new study published in the journal Nature Climate Change on April 25.
An international team of 32 authors from 24 institutions in eight countries led the effort, which involved using satellite data from NASA’s Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectrometer and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Advanced Very High Resolution Radiometer instruments to help determine the leaf area index, or amount of leaf cover, over the planet’s vegetated regions. The greening represents an increase in leaves on plants and trees equivalent in area to two times the continental United States.
But the mainstream media, teaches us that global greening is bad:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/30/science/climate-change-plants-global-greening.html