Geoengineering
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Started by metmike - Dec. 7, 2018, 3:15 p.m.

I got this from contact the moderator:


Your Name: Mr. Wynn Sloboda
Message: Hello Mike,

I just recently heard you speak on my local Catholic radio about climate change .
 I even tried to call  in at  the end of the show ,too late!
My question is, what your opinion  would be on geoengineering ? Every time I attempt to bring it up I get no response.
I live i Calif and we get sprayed constantly ! I have a local talk show host, Brian Sussman who is a meterologist that wrote a book titled climate gate, Who is mute on the subject .
i have been trying to speak out against the ongoing weather modification programs.

Thank you , sincerely Wynn Sloboda

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By metmike - Dec. 7, 2018, 3:16 p.m.
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Hi Wynn,

You may be referring to chemtrails.


They do not exist in the form that many believe is happening. This is mainly just a bunch of people using doctored videos on the internet and speculative theories with zero legit evidence.

It doesn't even make sense for the type of spraying to take place.


These are just jet contrails from water vapor. As an atmospheric scientist, I can tell you with certainty, that the weather(clear skies with high humidity at the jet plane level) and very high jet plane traffic(compared to a few decades ago) explains this 100%.


I will just provide you with a link that has more information.

If you want to go to all sorts of links that sound convincing about chemtrails and to support your belief, you can but I am just giving you my (expert in this case) opinion based on the authentic atmospheric science.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory

There is the topic of geoengineering to reduce the earths temperature by spraying small aerosol particles into the stratosphere to block some of the suns warm short wave radiation.

This actually would be very feasible..............if we were having a climate crisis from the earth overheating.


We aren't, so its a dumb idea.

If temperatures would suddenly increase much faster, like busted and much too warm global climate models have predicted, even then its probably not a good idea unless the observations in the real world start showing extreme problems vs the exaggerated and made up ones now.

Mike

By metmike - Dec. 8, 2018, 4:22 p.m.
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First sun-dimming experiment will test a way to cool Earth

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-07533-4#ref-CR1

"Researchers plan to spray sunlight-reflecting particles into the stratosphere, an approach that could ultimately be used to quickly lower the planet’s temperature."

"The idea that humans might turn down Earth’s thermostat by similar, artificial means is several decades old. It fits into a broader class of planet-cooling schemes known as geoengineering that have long generated intense debate and, in some cases, fear.

Researchers have largely restricted their work on such tactics to computer models. Among the concerns is that dimming the Sun could backfire, or at least strongly disadvantage some areas of the world by, for example, robbing crops of sunlight and shifting rain patterns."


This is why it's a bad idea:

Estimating global agricultural effects of geoengineering using volcanic eruptions

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0417-3

"We find that the sunlight-mediated effect of stratospheric sulfate aerosols on yields is negative for both C4 (maize) and C3 (soy, rice and wheat) crops. Applying our yield model to a solar radiation management scenario based on stratospheric sulfate aerosols, we find that projected mid-twenty-first century damages due to scattering sunlight caused by solar radiation management are roughly equal in magnitude to benefits from cooling."

This also doesn't take into account that increasing CO2 makes plants more drought tolerant and heat tolerant...........while less sunshine, will always mean less energy to make food/sugars. 

By metmike - Dec. 8, 2018, 4:34 p.m.
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Regarding  chemtrails, here is one of the many convincing videos on the topic that is complete rubbish:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqATQtwOY34

By metmike - Dec. 8, 2018, 4:59 p.m.
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I have heard some people that I consider to be pretty smart about most things discuss their belief in chemtrails.

I can understand the mistrust of sources with explanations that claim that these are just jet contrails. Some of those same sources have been telling us that the recent weather/climate, the best for life on this planet in 1,000 years, the last time that it was this warm is extreme and unprecedented since humans have walked the earth and because of increasing CO2.

If they distort the truth in one realm, why should we trust them in other realms?

You don't have to trust the explanations. Use science and critical thinking, which supports their explanations 100% in this case(in contrast to the extreme climate stuff, where the data contradicts them and only speculative(busted) climate models projecting a century from now supporting their case.


Here are some good sources with authentic data/science to explain contrails.............which are what we are seeing in the sky..........all of them. 


https://science.howstuffworks.com/transport/flight/modern/what-are-chemtrails1.htm

 https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/policy_guidance/envir_policy/media/contrails.pdf

By metmike - Dec. 8, 2018, 5:03 p.m.
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Chemtrails Can't Be Proven, Say Top Scientists — But Will That Sway Believers?


https://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/scientists-survey-contrails-chemtrails-2016.htm

It might like a storyline from "The X-Files," but you might be surprised how many people think it could be happening. In a 2013 Public Policy Polling survey, five percent of Americans said they believed that those streaks in the sky are chemicals sprayed by the government "for sinister reasons," while another eight percent weren't completely ruling it out.