https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-health-issues-news-hand-jd-vance-2121065
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https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-chronic-venous-insufficiency-2100660
"The president underwent a comprehensive examination, including diagnostic vascular studies. Bilateral lower extremity venous Doppler ultrasounds were performed and revealed chronic venous insufficiency, a benign and common condition, particularly in individuals over the age of 70," the memo said.
Leavitt said the bruise on his hand was "consistent" with irritation from "frequent handshaking and the use of aspirin." She added that "the president remains in excellent health."
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/08/25/trump-hand-bruise-makeup/85815392007/
Similar images of apparent bruising on the president's hand made the rounds online after Trump's visit with French President Emmanuel Macron at the White House on Feb. 24. Leavitt said in a statement to NBC News that the president's hand was bruised "because he’s constantly working and shaking hands all day every day."
Photos of Trump's hand covered in makeup were also seen during his July 27 meeting in Scotland with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen.
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First of all, this White House will never be transparent about anything that doesn't make Trump look great, so we will never know the truth. Trump could live another 10+ years with this condition(because we don't know how bad it is) or he could drop dead BEFORE Biden does, which would be ironic.
However, we know that they are lying about several things here, which means they don't want us to know the truth, which means it's worse than they claim. Let's just cover the facts which they are very likely lying about.
1. "CVI is a benign condition." No it's not!!! It's normally associated with issues on the lower legs(Trump's cankels/severe edema that shows thru his socks for instance). If it's advanced to the point of causing symptoms on his right hand, it's very likely in a more advanced stage. We will never see his actual legs to know for sure how bad they look.
2. The discoloration that keeps popping up in the exact same place on his right hand is likely NOT JUST from hand shaking and taking aspirin. That explanation, to anybody that understands basic medicine, health and human anatomy is laughable, especially since they admitted that he has Chronic Venous Insufficiency and the image on the next page, shows a huge varicose vein feeding right into the bruise.
3. First of all, with that condition at his currently advanced stage(cause the symptoms they acknowledge, only because we can see them) he would not just be taking aspirin. He's taking prescription blood thinners! 2nd of all hand shaking is extremely unlikely the main cause for the massive bruise, covering up half of the back of his right hand (that keeps reappearing since it won't completely heal because of his disease) and for sure it didn't cause the same thing on his left hand(I can't find an image of that one, however). Trumps right hand bruise first grabbed attention in February 2024.
4. They lied to us earlier this year after Trumps comprehensive medical exam results were released. 100% they knew he had this condition. They didn’t admit it until it got so bad that we could see it thru his socks and on his hands. It would be interesting to see what Trumps lower legs look like.
The White House
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/2025/04/memorandum-from-the-white-house-physician/
BUSTED!!! Blatant lies about his cardiac, skin and neurological conditions!!!! No mention about his chronic venous insufficiency that is at least in stage 4 based on what we see (and they had to admit) and has been there for at least several years.
i also think they lied about his O2 reading being 99%. This actually is an area of my expertise. At 79 years old, being overweight and with CVI, the chance for his resting pulsox/blood oxygen being 99% is minuscule. He would have to be doing deep breathing to get it that high!!! This suggests that this entire medical report is worthless since it fabricated numerous facts to give the appearance that Trumps health is better than it really is.
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Donald Trump's Bruised Hands Come Under Scrutiny: 'People Deserve Answers'
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https://www.modernheartandvascular.com/the-stages-of-chronic-venous-insufficiency/
The venous disorders stages include the following:
–STAGE 0: You cannot feel or see signs. However, you may feel symptoms such as tired or achy legs.
–STAGE 1: The first stage is when you can see the blood vessels, including the formation of spider veins on the legs. These blood vessels look unsightly but do not always cause pain or discomfort. However, it would be wise to be aware of and pay attention to them.
–STAGE 2: When you see prominent, bulging veins on your legs and feet, you start to have varicose veins (at least three millimeters wide). Some individuals do not suffer discomfort with varicose veins, but many do.
–STAGE 3: There is swelling (edema) but no skin changes. (Chronic venous insufficiency diagnosis). They worsen if you do not heal your varicose veins at first glance. One of the things that occur when you do not get treatment is swelling.
This swelling results from poor circulation in your body and can significantly hinder your quality of life. Swelling may also contribute to damage to your lymphatic system.
–STAGE 4: When you leave your veins untreated, blood continues to accumulate in the area surrounding the damaged vein, causing skin discoloration or rashes; variations in the texture or color of your skin. In addition, the accumulation of blood on the surface may trigger an inflammatory response indicated by an itchy red rash (venous stasis dermatitis).
–STAGE 5: If you continue to leave your damaged veins untreated, venous insufficiency may progress to venous stasis ulcers and open sores resulting from skin tissue breakdown in the leg.
These sores and ulcers may be excruciating and make movement difficult. You do not want to reach this stage five of chronic venous insufficiency.
If you have advanced to this stage, you must evaluate and treat your veins as soon as possible. Treatment will help you heal the wounds and prevent a recurrence.
–STAGE 6: You have an active (acute) ulcer at stage six.
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We can't see Trump's uncovered legs to know if its worse than this but he is clearly, AT LEAST in STAGE 4. If his lower legs have experienced ulcers/sores than he's in STATE 5 or even STAGE 6.
Hands are usually impacted when this disease is already pretty bad, however Trump could have alot of sun damage from years of golfing that made his skin more fragile in that area. However, much more likely than not, his lower legs look pretty bad(discolored with possible ulcerations).
Regardless, he's the president with the best medical care in the world. There are procedures, some surgical to treat/manage (but not stop the disease). It's possible that him vanishing from the public's eye last week was the result of him having some minor surgical procedures(for example, to get rid of varicose veins) to treat this on his legs.
I'm not saying that's what happened, just saying that they can do things to lessen the damage and treat it that are pretty effective. The disease IS progressive and not curable so it WILL gradually get worse because they can't replace his heart and entire cardiovascular system. Again, he could live another 10+ years even with this.
At this point, I've only stated rock solid facts about what we know regarding President Trump and what we know about this disease which is at least STAGE 4 and on the verge of, if not already resulting in much more aggressive treatment to avoid complications of STAGES 5 and 6. He's the president! There is no way they would neglect the medical condition of a person like this in STAGE 4. He's been treated for years in all likelihood and may still be in STAGES 5 or 6(because it is progressive, even with the best treatments to slow it down or improve it temporarily).
In reading more about what Trump has and explanations from so called experts, I've been reading some nonsense about Trump's condition.
One of them is that since the White House tells us that Trump has Chronic Venous Insufficiency and that only impacts legs, his hand bruising can't be from that.
As if hands don't also have circulating blood and people don't ever develop blood circulation problems in their hands.
For sure the VAST majority with this condition have it in their legs. This is because gravity causes blood to pool downward into our legs, especially when standing for long periods. Also, the distance between your heart and legs/feet is much farther than the distance between your heart and arms/hands which makes it harder to circulate blood back and forth as effectively.
On the huge black and blue bruise that keeps coming back, I haven't been able to find an image of it on his left hand as was indicated. However, we can see below that Trump is developing varicose veins in his hands. The image below shows a huge varicose vein tracking down the center of his hand feeding into the base of his black and blue hand bruising. I would speculate that this damaged/varicose vein from his chronic venous insufficiency is the main source region for the blood pooling out to make this huge black and blue bruise that has been there much of the time since at least February 2024. I would further speculate that removal of that varicose vein would stop the bruising in his right hand. Even more speculation is that it's probably a couple orders of magnitude worse on his legs, which is where the biggest risk for a blood clot and other issues is not from his right hand pathology. The main reason to remove that varicose vein would be more for appearance(to stop the bruising that will only get worse as the varicose vein cannot heal). If it disappears suddenly, then thats what they did. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump has not already had several procedures to remove varicose veins in his legs.
These are strongly associated with chronic venous insufficiency. Not always but very frequently and since the Trump team has admitted that he already has CVI, then its extremely likely this is big factor in that bruise.
Hand shaking and the prescription blood thinners that we know he MUST be taking but lying about, for sure could be a factor too. But that huge varicose vein isn't our imagination.
Varicose veins (venous insufficiency) is a condition in which veins are not able to pump blood back to the heart. This causes blood to pool in the blood vessels so that they become enlarged or varicose over time.
Venous insufficiency is a medical condition in which veins in the body (most often in the legs) are not able to pump blood back to the heart. This causes blood to pool in the blood vessels so that they become enlarged (varicose) or dilated over time.
We know that Trump is taking 2 different cholesterol lowering drugs from his medical report. There is just no way, with this condition and high cholesterol and those meds that he's not also taking a PRESCRIPTION blood thinner because of the greatly elevated chance of a blot clot that can be fatal!!!
https://unitedveincenters.com/blog/chronic-venous-insufficiency-and-blood-clots/
If you’re at high risk for clots, your healthcare provider may prescribe blood-thinning medications (anticoagulants). These medications reduce the blood’s ability to clot and may also be used if you’ve already experienced a DVT. Always take medications as directed and notify your doctor of any side effects.
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https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/treatment-tests-and-therapies/vein-removal
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I would be willing to bet that President Trump has already had this done on his legs.
On Trumps 99% O2 reading that his doctor claims was measured at his physical exam.
Trump was almost 80 when that exam took place. He's a medical miracle if his resting O2 readings are 99%, considering his age, being overweight, under tremendous stress, sleep deprived and chronic venous insufficiency suggests his vascular system is compromised. NO WAY!!!
The White House
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/2025/04/memorandum-from-the-white-house-physician/
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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9975246/
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The fact that they put 99% makes me think that he might have LOW oxygen for the following, speculative reason.
If you're healthy and have a solid O2 reading, you put down the real number, the truth!
If you are NOT healthy and have a low side O2 reading because of that and want to cover it up, you lie and use a fake reading.
Knowing Trump's mind, he wouldn't be content with just a normal 79 year old's reading of 94-95 or even a very healthy 96 or 97%.
He had to go to a completely not believable 99% for his age and compromising conditions.
If he had been an athlete his entire life and was still running marathons at 79, I might believe 99%. His conditions at 99%? NO WAY!
His medical stupidity and his pathological thinking that he's perfect/omnipotent and needs people to perceive him that way is what caused him to put down such an extreme, highly unlikely 99%. That's what busted him!
https://www.template.net/editable/104083/blood-oxygen-level-chart-by-age
I called Biden's lying doctors out too............MANY TIMES!
But here's the thing.
The Rs were up in arms over them covering up and lying over Biden's MAJOR cognitive declines.
Fox and Trump led the way attacking Biden for this.
Now, Trump is doing the exact same thing by lying about what his doctor found and his conditions!!!
How about we hold Trump to the same standards as Biden???
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Re: Re: Re: Confusing statement
By metmike - Oct. 15, 2022, 1:11 p.m.
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Biden will NOT be running!
23 responses |
Started by metmike - June 10, 2023, 10:11 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/96109/
Best president in the last 40 years
By metmike - Nov. 24, 2023, 12:53 p.m.
I continue to insist that Joe Biden will NOT be the D candidate in 2024!!!
Previous threads/posts.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/94709/
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Re: Best president in the last 40 years
By metmike - Feb. 8, 2024, 10:10 p.m.
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Bidens performance
14 responses |
Started by metmike - March 8, 2024, 7:24 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/102566/
Been reading about Joe Bidens State of the Union campaign performance last night.
Time magazine is calling it his “top career performance”.
I would agree with that if you want to base it on how fast he can read from a teleprompter without making mistakes after practicing the same speech a zillion times while on dementia stimulants/meds.
By metmike - March 9, 2024, 10:58 a.m.
POTUS DEMENTIA LOL
9 responses | by 12345 - May 30, 2024, 6:32 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/104367/
IS THIS THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF BIDEN??
22 responses |
Started by 12345 - May 15, 2024, 7:42 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/104022/
WWBW Contest
70 responses |
Started by metmike - June 17, 2024, 1:40 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/105005/
When Will Biden Withdraw? It's not a matter of if but WHEN in my opinion
AT 00:22 ... WHO IS HE LOOKING AT?
By metmike - July 7, 2024, 2:50 p.m.
Biden's news conference
27 responses |
Started by metmike - July 11, 2024, 5:41 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/105689/
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Joe Biden has cancer
46 responses |
Started by metmike - May 18, 2025, 5:31 p.m.
Hey Mike,
Aren’t back of hand bruises pretty normal for older folks? My dad had them often in his 80s. I thought it was related to thinning skin and less of a fat layer to protect the capillaries from bruising when bumping up against something:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/269857428655080/posts/1061481466159335/
https://www.havenhealthaz.com/blog/what-causes-unexplained-bruises-in-seniors/
Thanks, Larry. Yes for sure that can be one reason for elderly people.
There are a number of them. I mentioned trumps exposure to the sun from years of golfing and that skin damage also being a factor.
However, The White House acknowledged his CVI and images of his right hand clearly show a large, varicose vein going to the huge black and blue area that never moves which is very likely from his CVI.
The huge spot on the back of his right hand is always in that same location.
I have a collagen disorder, Ehlers Danlos that causes numerous senile pupura’s that manifest from the conditions that you mentioned. That’s what those images that you showed are.
These bruises move around to different places on my arms and hands, depending on where I get bumped at. They last in any 1 spot up to 3 weeks, which is how long it takes my body to completely absorb the blood. Same with other old people that get them. It’s never the same spot unless the bump hits the same spot and the pattern and size is different each time.
Trumps black and blue spot never moves and takes the same shape each time because it’s tethered to that big varicose vein which is causing it. That is not from normal aging or from what you mentioned or from what I have.
It would be interesting to see how bad his legs look, considering that we can see the edema bulging out thru his socks.
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I wouldn’t be surprised if they remove that varicose vein since it’s an easy,procedure and it would also minimize it turning into an ulcer but thats extremely unlikely.
The varicose vein and constant bruise on his hand is no major health risk, mainly an appearance thing…..with 1 exception. Varicose veins cause blood to pool in that vein which increases the Risk of a blood clot. That is,part of having CVI Which is manageable.
removing varicose veins
Blood clots are way more likely to form on his legs, however but for sure he’s taking a prescription blood thinner, not just aspirin which is almost automatic(unless he has some sort of clotting disorder).
Which is another good point.
Being on the prescription blood thinner IS, without question going to cause the blood leaking from his varicose veins to be worse. People like me, with senile purpuras always have worse bruising from having thinner blood/slower clotting.
So the treatment for the disease, makes that symptom worse but the blood leaking out into his surrounding tissues is not a threat to life. However, a blood clot is.
My comments on this are based on my familiarity with it because I've had this condition(unusually young) for almost 20 years because of my disease.
I've got 3 of them on my left forearm right now, close to the elbow from a slight bump around 2 weeks ago. They are around a week from completely fading(being absorbed).
https://dermnetnz.org/topics/senile-purpura
Image of Trump below:
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We should note in these images in the article that there are no varicose veins feeding the black and blue spots that are from blood leaking out and are classical (really bad) senile purpura's.
I can't make a definitive diagnosis just from the image of Trump's hand and this could be a purpura except that:
1. It comes back or stays in the exact same spot and seems to be the same size and shape. Purpuras don't do that.
2. There's a large varicose vein feeding into the base of it.
3. Trump has Chronic Venous Insufficiency
For sure there could be a host of factors going on simultaneously.
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Here's more, related to my Ehlers-Danlos:
https://empendium.com/mcmtextbook/chapter/B31.II.15.18.
1. Inherited vascular purpuras:
1) Hereditary hemorrhagic telangiectasia (Osler-Weber-Rendu disease).
2) Purpura associated with congenital connective tissue diseases: Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, Marfan syndrome, osteogenesis imperfecta.
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Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome patients may be sensitive to bruising due to fragile capillaries and blood vessels surrounding the connective tissues. This story tells more about this symptom.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-photographed-labor-day-amid-baseless-death-rumors-2122752
Again, Trump could live for another 10+ years with this condition or he could have a blood clot form in his legs and travel to his brain and cause a major stroke before then. His prescription blood thinners (that for sure he's taking) reduce the chance of that happening.
He's being monitored closely for this(and has had it for at least a couple of years), so they can take quick action to dissolve any blot clots with symptoms as they travel slowly in his body
He's on 2 cholesterol drugs also, so he may have alot of plaque built up in his arteries, which also increases the chance of a piece of it breaking off and acting like a blot clot. The risk is if this get's to your brain and blocks blood from flowing, which cuts off oxygen and causes brain tissue death. That is PURE speculation with very little information to make it more than that.
There is more that we DON'T know than what we do know and my assessments may seem to be very speculative but I'm just stating rock solid medical science, which strongly supports the assessment.
The range of severity in determining how bad or not bad this condition is for Trump's health/longevity is very wide.
There is a 0% chance that if this was serious, they would ever tell us.
His doctors report earlier this year completely lied about it, in fact. This condition takes years to slowly progress. If we saw the bad edema between his pant leg bottom and shoes, thru his socks, then it's been there for years and getting worse. That is NOT speculation, for instance.
We can see the varicose vein in his hand which still might be not big deal, except for the massive bruise associated with it for 1.5 years and the fact that he has CVI, which makes it potentially more concerning but not necessarily a major risk.