Orange Juice
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Started by rockitck - May 23, 2023, 8:07 p.m.

Anyone looking a the chart for Orange Juice?

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By metmike - May 24, 2023, 2:09 a.m.
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Not me but I can post an ok chart with a comment on Wednesday.

By cutworm - May 24, 2023, 10:04 p.m.
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Looks like new all-time highs. What is the fundamentals? 

By WxFollower - May 25, 2023, 7:11 a.m.
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 The Florida orange crop, which was already very small, was decimated by Hurricane Ian. The October forecast, which was too early to take into account the immense damage from Ian, was only at 28 mb. This forecast was for a crop a whopping 32% smaller than the prior year and the smallest crop since way back in 1943!!

  Subsequent reports have taken into account the extreme devastation to the remaining small crop from Ian. There was still a further drop with the May report, which had the crop way down at a measly 15.65 mb! That means that the crop was further reduced by Ian, alone, from 28 mb to 15.65 mb or a whopping 44% reduction due to Ian! That is easily the largest % reduction from one storm on record that I've seen. I had originally predicted a fairly close % reduction to that caused by Irma. However, this has turned out to be far worse.

 I posted a lot about the damage to oranges from Ian as it was happening, but I think that thread is gone for some reason.

https://fortune.com/2022/10/12/florida-hurricane-ian-orange-crop-small/amp/

May USDA link:

https://downloads.usda.library.cornell.edu/usda-esmis/files/tm70mv177/f7624t01r/xk81m0561/crop0523.pdf

By metmike - May 25, 2023, 7:33 a.m.
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Thanks, Larry.

that was a wonderful thread and I’ll try again to retrieve it with creative verbiage to trick the flawed search engine…if that helps.

there is no tech support here unless I paid top dollar to work on it and I’m already doing this for free.

By cutworm - May 25, 2023, 7:34 a.m.
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thanks wx

By metmike - May 25, 2023, 7:41 a.m.
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Larry,

I might hafe good news and may have learned something. I tried the same search that has continually failed on my computer and it looks like it will work to retrieve this stuff on my IPad.

I just have to figure out how to copy and paste with my IPad.

I’ll look at it more later today when in my office.

you can try a search using “hurricane Ian“ to see what you get too.

By metmike - May 25, 2023, 7:55 a.m.
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wxfollower,

still having issues on the laptop

: Orange Juice
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By metmike - May 25, 2023, 7:25 p.m.
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This is what I was able to get, Larry:

                Here comes........... Hurricane IAN!                      

                47 responses |                

                  Started by metmike - Sept. 24, 2022, 6:25 p.m.     

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/89131/

     

                       

                Comparison of Ian-2022 to Irma-2017            

                            8 responses |        

                Started by metmike - Sept. 30, 2022, 9:07 p.m.

            https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/89366/


                Great to see Biden/DeSantis            

                            6 responses |                

                Started by metmike - Oct. 5, 2022, 6:36 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/89471/


                Ian's death toll/Extreme Storm Surge/Contribution from Climate Change            

                            22 responses |      

                Started by metmike - Oct. 2, 2022, 9:43 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/89399/



Latest 1 in 1,000 year rain event(not)
4 responses
Started by metmike - Sept. 30, 2022, 2:03 a.m.

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/89333/


                U.S. Coast Guard            

                            2 responses |               

                Started by mikempt - Oct. 4, 2022, 11:32 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/89431/


                Ian's death toll/Extreme Storm Surge/Contribution from Climate Change            

                22 responses |             

                Started by metmike - Oct. 2, 2022, 9:43 p.m.       

     https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/89399/





By metmike - May 25, 2023, 7:33 p.m.
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This is the thread that we are not able to link to because it results in "forbidden" when using the link:


I copied the only thing that I could from it from the search engine:

Using Ian for the search

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Orange production Florida                

                                                                                                    

BodyDate Posted & Author
                            An article from last week.
During October, I suspect we'll get actual damage reports.
I make no assumptions and have no expectations.
Winds gusts with Ian were not as high as Charley but we should wait to hear from the growers/producers themselves. I'm not sure if they will talk up damage to try to boost prices(I don't remember a producer that says bearish things about their crop, even big crops or that underestimated damaged crops) but we'll know more in the coming weeks.
It would not shock me to see some limit up or limit down days this month, October.

HurricaneIan to worsen bleak outlook for U.S. orange juice industry

https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/hurricane-ian-worsen-bleak-outlook-us-orange-juice-industry-2022-09-29/

"Florida orange production was already expected to be poor, as planted areas have been falling yearly due to real estate expansion and the spread of the greening fungus disease.

According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), U.S. orange production was estimated to fall 13% to the lowest in over 55 years at 3.5 million tons before the storm.

"Some of the growers that are still investing in citrus production in Florida, battling the disease with new varieties, will be hard hit by this storm," said soft commodities analyst Judy Ganes.

She said that the strong winds have likely "transported" the greening fungus from abandoned orange farms to renovated ones, wasting the work and investment.

Although imports from Brazil and Mexico currently make up for most of the orange ...

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Using Orange Juice to look up info

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Orange production Florida                

                                                                                                                            
BodyDate Posted & Author
                            An article from last week.
During October, I suspect we'll get actual damage reports.
I make no assumptions and have no expectations.
Winds gusts with Ian were not as high as Charley but we should wait to hear from the growers/producers themselves. I'm not sure if they will talk up damage to try to boost prices(I don't remember a producer that says bearish things about their crop, even big crops or that underestimated damaged crops) but we'll know more in the coming weeks.
It would not shock me to see some limit up or limit down days this month, October.

Hurricane Ian to worsen bleak outlook for U.S. orange juice industry

https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/hurricane-ian-worsen-bleak-outlook-us-orange-juice-industry-2022-09-29/

"Florida orange production was already expected to be poor, as planted areas have been falling yearly due to real estate expansion and the spread of the greening fungus disease.

According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), U.S. orange production was estimated to fall 13% to the lowest in over 55 years at 3.5 million tons before the storm.

"Some of the growers that are still investing in citrus production in Florida, battling the disease with new varieties, will be hard hit by this storm," said soft commodities analyst Judy Ganes.

She said that the strong winds have likely "transported" the greening fungus from abandoned orange farms to renovated ones, wasting the work and investment.

Although imports from Brazil and Mexico currently make up for most of the orange ...

                        
Oct. 3, 2022, 1:05 a.m.
metmike
                
                            

Re: Re: Re: Re: Orange production Florida                

                                                                                                                            
BodyDate Posted & Author
                            

There’s Another Reason Florida Orange Juice Costs More Than Ever, And It’s Not What You Think

 

A disease called "citrus greening" has led to the state's worst crop in decades

https://www.insidehook.com/article/food-drink-miami/reason-florida-orange-juice-costs-more


This isn’t just a devastating blow to the Florida citrus industry, which employs more than 33,000 people and contributes millions of tax dollars to the state. It also translates — in a time following major increases in orangejuice consumption during the pandemic (there was a notable 70% spike in the week ending March 21, 2020) — to higher prices for Americans, specifically for orangejuice. Florida’s oranges, with their thin rinds and incredible juiciness, are better for making everyone’s favorite breakfast beverage, as compared to the thick-rind California oranges, which are better for eating out of hand.
                        
Sept. 27, 2022, 9:37 p.m.
metmike
                
                            

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Orange production Florida                

                                                                                                                            
BodyDate Posted & Author
                                   https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/80259/#80410     
   By hayman - Jan. 14, 2022, 7:45 p.m.            
           
Live Price of OrangeJuice...per OUNCE!
https://markets.businessinsider.com/commodities/orange-juice-price
Florida Orange Crop Shrinks to 77-Year Low, Boosting Juice Costs    
Marvin G Perez 11:22 PM IST, 13 Jan 2022

Read more at: https://www.bloombergquint.com/onweb/florida-orange-crop-shrinks-to-77-year-low-boosting-juice-costs
Copyright © BloombergQuint
https://www.bloombergquint.com/onweb/florida-orange-crop-shrinks-to-77-year-low-boosting-juice-costs
                        
Sept. 27, 2022, 1:09 p.m.
metmike
                
                            

Re: Re: Re: Orange production Florida                

                                                                                                    
BodyDate Posted & Author
                            How Brazil stole the production of orange juice from Florida
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/23/brazil-florida-orange-juice-tariff-trade-war.html
  • More than 50 percent of all orange juice bottled by major companies like Tropicana is supplied by a Brazilian company
  • In 2017, this OJ export market was worth $1.4 billion
  • Brazilian orange juice companies used this cash influx to come into the U.S. and buy out Florida’s production facilities
By metmike - May 25, 2023, 7:56 p.m.
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I'm pretty sure of what the issue is now. The same that I thought previously.

There are several dozen totally random words that I've run across the past 5 years, that when put into the search engine, will result in this response:


This is one of them below:



It's not the Wx part but this is they key word that our search engine rejects:


Sorry for any problems this might cause. However, on the bright side as somebody that looks old stuff up zillions of times, I've never once used my handle to look it up.  I use the topic and my memory of prior discussions with creativity at times.

I checked to see if it was related to WxFollower starting the thread(which I knew already it wouldn't from all the threads you've started that I've been able to repost): NOPE

This title/topic worked in the search engine box just fine:

                El Niño likely coming later this year            

                            16 responses |         

                Started by WxFollower - April 1, 2023, 5:48 p.m.   

         https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/94277/

Just one of those odd things that will never be explained because I'm not paying $100+/hour to have it fixed for a job that pays $0/year!


By metmike - May 26, 2023, 7:35 p.m.
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Previous attempt. Looks like, out of the 8124 NTR threads and 7479 Trading threads, that 1 is lost forever )-:

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/89131/#91437