IMMIGRATION........
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Started by 12345 - Jan. 28, 2023, 6:37 p.m.
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By metmike - Jan. 29, 2023, 11:54 a.m.
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Good story, Jean

Thanks!


On a related note, looking the recent picture of Ellis Island below, from your story which still has almost the same sea level of 100+ years ago(seas are rising at 1 foot/century).  What's interesting is how the world, in the age of massive accurate information, like this image can still be manipulated by propaganda and DISinformation from gatekeepers with political agenda and crony capitalism motives!

 

Bernie Sanders: ‘Major Cities Going Under Water’ in ‘8 or 9 Years’ Due to Climate Change

        Craig Bannister  | November 20, 2019 

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/bernie-sanders-major-cities-going-under-water-8-or-9-years-due-climate-change



Below, somebody called out the false narratives and extreme exaggerations of sources like Bernie Sanders who claim that we're destroying the planet because of their political agenda by showing how small the changes in the ocean have been the past 100 years(using 2 images to compare the change)........and the fact checkers came down on the WRONG side here, spinning the lies to rule in favor of the alarmists:

Fact Check-Statue of Liberty photos do not prove sea level rise is a myth

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-statue-of-liberty-sea-level/fact-check-statue-of-liberty-photos-do-not-prove-sea-level-rise-is-a-myth-idUSL1N2RV1SK


This is the quintessential demonstration of how you take a lie and make it sound like the truth, using propaganda 100 in a fact check by giving a deceptive interpretation of the perspective.

The person making the point in the fact check is showing readers/viewers with rock solid  proof that there is no catastrophic sea level change with accurate pictures comparing the Statue of Liberty from 100 years ago to today.

In their ruling, the fact checker stated this:

"The number of disasters such as flooding and heatwaves which are driven by climate change has increased fivefold in the last 50 years, according to the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) (here)."

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Now to the physics and weather of the real world using empircal data which is experiencing a climate OPTIMUM below:

                US Climate Is Getting Less Extreme, Not More            

                            18 responses |            

                Started by metmike - Jan. 13, 2023, 12:37 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/92155/

Screenshot 2023-01-13 at 11-27-11 Everything caused by the climate crisis - MarketForum.png

By metmike - Jan. 29, 2023, 12:34 p.m.
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Climate Action

Tackling Climate Change

Goal 13 calls for urgent action to combat climate change and its impacts. It is intrinsically linked to all 16 of the other Goals of the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development. To address climate change, countries adopted the Paris Agreement to limit global temperature rise to well below 2 degrees Celsius. Learn more about Goal 13, and for the latest United Nations climate news, visit un.org/climatechange.

https://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/climate-action/

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The truth?

the electric car and fake green energy/power markets are maturing enough so the impossible promises and fairy tale  physics are being applied in the REAL world.

the blatantly over promised results are failing to meet expectations…….as well as the realization that “oh, oh Houston, we have a problem”

the crony capitalism and politics are still the main drivers but they’re encountering increasing resistance from the extremely poor real world performance and multiple problems, including the fact that fake green energy is actually much more anti environmental and wrecking the planet compared to what it’s supposedly replacing…….fossil fuels that are substantially greening up the planet by every authentic scientific measure.

humans in 50 years, will look back at the last 30 years as a time of climate, science, energy and environmental ignorance and fraud In human history........the Dark Ages for climate science and authentic messages.

During these first couple of decades after the enormous power of the internet and other communication tools was unleashed...........one of the first ones to exploit the people using it, featuring fraudulent messages and false narratives were clever gate keepers of the fake climate crisis secrets.


 

By joj - Jan. 31, 2023, 9:10 a.m.
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We need more immigrants.  Way more!  It is the lifeblood of our economy and the reason we are the wealthiest nation on earth.  Whenever we have engaged in protectionist immigration policies we have suffered economically.  The Great Depression is the starkest example.

Baby boomers are getting old and we don't have enough young people.  It is a demographic time bomb and given the xenophobic MAGA nut jobs and the feckless Democrats, we are instead going in the opposite direction.

By 12345 - Jan. 31, 2023, 10:26 a.m.
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I TOTALLY AGREE WITH IMMIGRATION ~ LEGAL IMMIGRATION

MY MATERNAL GRANDMOTHER CAME FROM CANADA ~ MY MATERNAL GREAT GRANDPARENTS CAME THROUGH ELLIS ISLAND, FROM GERMANY.

NEITHER OF THEM WERE HANDED A DIME WHEN THEY ARRIVED. THEY BECAME LEGAL CITIZENS & WORKED VERY HARD TO BECOME SELF-SUFFICIENT & RAISED BIG FAMILIES, THAT ALSO GREW UP WITH THAT SAME "GRIT" OF PAYING THEIR OWN WAY, THROUGH LIFE.

HOW MANY PERMANENT LEGAL IMMIGRANTS DO WE ALLOW IN, EVERY YEAR?

HOW MANY OVERSTAY THEIR WORK VISA?

HOW MANY ILLEGALS GET INTO THE USA, EVERY YEAR? IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW.

HOW MUCH DOES THE USA SPEND ON ILLEGALS, EVERY YEAR? THAT'S ALSO IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW.  IMO ~ 1 CENT IS TOO MUCH.