Is this a US war with Russia? What is your opinion?
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Started by cutworm - April 25, 2022, 2:32 p.m.

US Wants to See Russian Military ‘Weakened’

By Jack Phillips

 April 25, 2022 Updated: April 25, 2022

“We want to see Russia weakened to the degree that it can’t do the kinds of things that it has done in invading Ukraine,” Austin told reporters, according to a transcript.

His remarks on Monday are perhaps the most explicit yet from a White House official on the Biden administration’s goals in the conflict, representing a sharpening of rhetoric toward the Russian government as the conflict enters its third month. Austin made the comments while speaking with Blinken at a press conference in Poland, a day after the pair visited Kyiv to meet with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on providing more military assistance.

The above from the Epoch Times

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By mcfarm - April 25, 2022, 6:02 p.m.
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I would say the Chinese communists certainly weakened the US during our time in Vietnam but for some reason nobody would admit who we were fighting. Same  thing for Korea. And we have had Russia on the opposite side sometimes too. But when our silly unqualified idiots from Dc go to Ukraine and give there loose speech about such things it makes me wonder how in the hell did Biden become President to appoint such naïve but tender unidentified gender specific diversified aids.

By metmike - April 25, 2022, 7:49 p.m.
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Putin threatens CIA over seemingly Kremlin-imagined assassination plot

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/putin-threatens-cia-over-seemingly-kremlin-imagined-assassination-plot

Put simply, it seems that Solovyov was never in any real danger. This incident strongly appears to be just another Russian false flag invention.

metmike: The problem is that cognitively compromised Biden gave it away a month ago, with an off the charts major gaff. Based on the long history of the US(doing this sort of thing dozens of times to other countries, when we didn't like the leadership) we almost have to ASSUME WITH HIGH CONFIDENCE that the US has numerous plans to help get Putin out of office. Of course they do!!!

Biden let the cat out of the bag, so Putin's accusation is credible. He may be completely wrong about this particular plot but maybe he's right? Even if not about this plot, who really thinks that the US does not have several secret strategies/plots actively pursuing the removal of Putin?

Biden told us they do when he made this statement.

                How Damaging is Biden's Gaff?            

                            10 responses |              

                Started by joj - March 27, 2022, 6:26 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/82777/

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Putin's rhetoric will be seen by the CIA and its British counterpart, MI6, the apparent target of a Putin shoutout against those who view the world in an "old fashioned way, based on their colonial past," as indicative of a real threat. Russian intelligence services act with physical aggression against Western intelligence officers where the Kremlin seeks to deter foreign intelligence activity and escalate political pressure. Critically important, Russia's appetite for this aggression increases in tandem with the absence of a robust riposte to the aggression.

           

This is relevant in the context of the so-called Havana Syndrome or "Anomalous Health Incidents," which have afflicted CIA officers around the world. While some incidents are the result of misidentified ailments or psychological conditions, contrary to the U.S. government's public statements, there is credible and varied evidence to suggest that Russia bears responsibility for other incidents — namely via radio frequency pulsed energy attacks. These attacks appear to have utility as a means of both technical intelligence collection, including stealing information off computers, as deliberate physical attacks. Those targeted possibly include former President George W. Bush, former first lady Laura Bush, and others.

           

Regardless, Putin's rhetoric evinces his escalating frustration over the failed progress of Russian forces in Ukraine and the success of Western intelligence services in assisting in Ukraine's defense.

By metmike - April 25, 2022, 7:56 p.m.
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The article from the Examiner, brings out some interesting points, related to this below. While I'm not suggesting that this is something they will use against Putin or that the reports of its use against the CIA are accurate,  it clearly has applications being used in the real world as noted by the numerous examples that are extraordinarily interesting.

With 'Havana Syndrome' whitewash, CIA puts bureaucracy before officers

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/with-havana-syndrome-whitewash-cia-puts-bureaucracy-before-officers


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_weapon

"Ultrasonic weapon" redirects here. Not to be confused with hypersonic weapon.

 

A long-range acoustic device (LRAD) in use on the USS Blue Ridge

Sonic and ultrasonic weapons (USW) are weapons of various types that use sound to injure or incapacitate an opponent. Some sonic weapons make a focused beam of sound or of ultrasound; others produce an area field of sound. As of 2021 military and police forces make some limited use of sonic weapons.


By metmike - April 25, 2022, 8:07 p.m.
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Sorry to shift the topic a bit cutworm. I can't NOT go off in a different direction when something new and profound is stumbled on during the original discussion. 

Maybe you guys already knew about this but not me.

 Thanks for starting this thread cutworm!

Feel free to go back to the original point.

The mysterious Cuba ‘sonic attacks’ are still puzzling investigators

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/the-mysterious-cuba-sonic-attacks-are-still-puzzling-investigators


LISTEN: What Americans heard in mysterious sonic attacks in Havana

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/listen-americans-heard-mysterious-sonic-attacks-havana

In Cuba, mystery deepens over attacks on U.S. diplomats

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/cuba-mystery-deepens-attacks-u-s-diplomats

By bear - April 26, 2022, 3:29 p.m.
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personally, i think we should not get too heavily involved.  even if we want to see the russian military weakend, our leaders should not publicly state that as if it is a policy.  

the best outcome would be like the afghan problem, where the russians get bogged down, and eventually pull out because they see they will not succeed.  

i do not want our leaders to ramp it up into a direct confrontation between the u.s. vs russia.  

we need to be careful to not turn it into WW3. 

 i also think we need to be careful to not push too many people to create alternative systems to the pro-western, pro-dollar financial network.  

By metmike - April 26, 2022, 4:59 p.m.
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What were the reasons for the US to enter some previous wars. Not like this one, where no brave US soldiers are being killed but like all the wars that killed many hundreds of thousands of often patriotic but sometimes forced US soldiers to die in. 


Just to provide some perspective below:

5 Reasons the United States Entered World War One

https://www.historyhit.com/5-reasons-us-entered-ww1/

Reasons for American Entry Into WWII

https://owlcation.com/humanities/Reasons-for-American-Entry-Into-WWII


You might be surprised that Russia and communism was a huge reason below:

Why did the United States Enter the Korean War? Reasons, Causes, and Outcomes.

https://study.com/learn/lesson/why-did-the-us-enter-the-korean-war.html


Vietnam War

https://www.history.com/topics/vietnam-war/vietnam-war-history


Afghanistan conflict (1978–present)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan_conflict_(1978%E2%80%93present)


Rationale for the Iraq War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationale_for_the_Iraq_War

By metmike - April 26, 2022, 5:02 p.m.
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Seven-in-Ten Americans Now See Russia as an Enemy

Attitudes toward NATO increasingly positive

Line chart showing Since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, Americans much more likely to consider Russia an enemy

By metmike - April 26, 2022, 5:11 p.m.
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But times and dynamics are MUCH different here!

The Threat of Nuclear War Should Not Be 'Underestimated,' Kremlin Says

https://www.newsweek.com/threat-nuclear-war-should-not-underestimated-kremlin-says-1700839

By metmike - April 26, 2022, 5:26 p.m.
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I thought this was a good relevant article earlier this year...BEFORE the out of control escalation that isn't going back.

What Cuban missile crisis teaches us about Ukraine

 

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https://www.riverdalepress.com/stories/what-cuban-missile-crisis-teaches-us-about-ukraine,77815

By metmike - April 26, 2022, 5:27 p.m.
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Why the War in Ukraine Poses a Greater Nuclear Risk than the Cuban Missile Crisis

https://www.justsecurity.org/81040/why-the-war-in-ukraine-poses-a-greater-nuclear-risk-than-the-cuban-missile-crisis/

By metmike - April 26, 2022, 5:31 p.m.
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                Putin's Gotta Go            

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                Started by joj - March 12, 2022, 6:48 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/82521/

By metmike - April 27, 2022, 2:58 a.m.
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Putin Using Nuclear War Threat to 'Blackmail the World,' Zelensky Says

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-using-nuclear-war-threat-blackmail-world-zelensky-says-1701277

By metmike - April 27, 2022, 1:06 p.m.
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The tell-tale tremor of a doomed tyrant: How Putin's 'uncontrollable' shaking hand bears the hallmarks of Hitler's Parkinson's disease... as Allied forces closed in on Berlin in 1945

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10758173/Putins-uncontrollable-shaking-hand-bears-hallmarks-Hitlers-Parkinsons-1945.html

metmike: Can you believe that Russia would have a leader in such poor health (-:

Dang,  we all know optimal health, especially cognitive health and mental/cerebral sharpness is a vital requirement for effective leadership of country's in today's complicated world.

Just look at the US.

                How Damaging is Biden's Gaff?            

                            10 responses |        

                Started by joj - March 27, 2022, 6:26 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/82777/

                

Biden's cognitive decline    

                12 responses |                

                Started by metmike - April 15, 2022, 4:13 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/83350/