Thanks much Gunter!

Not surprised that this would be one of your sources.

Jeffrey Tucker is strongly against social distancing(not just masking but social distancing) and believes the risk to children from COVID is almost zero.

Tell that to the children and young adults, some critically ill in our local hospitals:

Or the adults that died because they got COVID from a young person that lived:

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/74814/#74866

Here's an interview of him(which I'm sure you agree with): 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJdasIARXeA

Revealing How The Media Fueled The Panic (Pt. 1) | Jeffrey A. Tucker | POLITICS | Rubin Report

metmike:

Heres more stuff that I'm sure you'll love(I actually agree with almost all of his points below from last year):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw1whJKcMR8

He wrote a book too:

https://www.amazon.com/Liberty-Lockdown-Jeffrey-Tucker/dp/1630692123

He makes some good points in there. 

On Covid, he obviously is blatantly misinformed about whether social distancing works or not and way behind the latest understanding/data of how many children are affected and in denial on them being spreaders and how effective the vaccines are.

I used to think the same thing too on the children.

First of all, I would like everyone to know that I am totally in favor of wearing masks, while this virus is floating around. I never go to any store without wearing my N95

Avoiding densely packed gatherings is another no-brainer for me.

However, I also understand that masks (especially the dense ones) make you inhale bad air, especially if you do it for prolonged times… which is not good.

I also understand that many health experts claim that all these defensive moves prevent our natural immune system from learning how to deal with viruses in our environment. And that makes sense too.

However, disagreeing with him in the matter of masks does not take away from some of the valid observations in his article.

One should also take into consideration what those FDA scientists say about the booster shots.

I don’t for once  believe that these FDA scientists “resigned” voluntarily.  Dr Fauci and his vaccine companies most likely pressured the FDA to demand their resignation.

"However, I also understand that masks (especially the dense ones) make you inhale bad air, especially if you do it for prolonged times… which is not good."

Yes, the sites that you go to also teach that religion but at least your mind is strong enough to discard that and use better judgment by wearing an N95 mask. Great for you!! But, since your are passing that false view on here, let's clear that up too:

Masks do not affect gas exchange

https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/face-masks-may-increase-feelings-of-breathlessness

Coronavirus: 'Deadly masks' claims debunked

https://www.bbc.com/news/53108405

Do face masks make you retain carbon dioxide?

https://uihc.org/health-topics/do-face-masks-make-you-retain-carbon-dioxide

Takeaways:

1. Face masks do not decrease your oxygen intake
2. They also do not make you retain more carbon dioxide than usual
3. Oxygen and CO₂ are very small, so they can easily pass through a face mask
4. Droplets are much larger in comparison, and they cannot pass easily through a face mask
5. Wearing face masks now helps us get back to normal sooner

metmike: My opinion on masks has only changed slightly. I'm willing to concede that cloths masks do help a bit compared to what I originally stated last year but not very much. For sure we are being sold crap on the belief that they help more than a slight amount and being lied to by not advising everybody about the truth with N95 masks.

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/73326/

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/72775/#72921

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/72775/

This was my original position and most of that is still true:

 GetN95masks ASAP! Here's the truth.            

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                Started by metmike - Dec. 21, 2020, 7:27 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/63115/

"I also understand that many health experts claim that all these defensive moves prevent our natural immune system from learning how to deal with viruses in our environment. And that makes sense too."

metmike: I understand the concept Gunter, thanks. Our immune systems respond, sort of like our muscles/bodies do when doing resistance training. 

But we are not talking about eliminating all bad things in the environment. We know that cloths masks allow all virus's and bacteria to get thru.......except those on large water vapor aerosol droplets.

Should we not wash our hands?  Turns out, thats not a major pathway for COVID anyway.

This is actually the wonderful benefit of getting the vaccine.  You get the shots and they arm your immune system to target the specific pathogen/virus that is the greatest threat to health in our lifetime.

Surely, nobody on the planet would argue that its good to strengthen your immune system by exercising it with the deadly COVID virus.

One of the saddest things about getting COVID is that many people that survive end up with long term COVID symptoms that last for months some have permanent damage to their bodies/systems.

Long Covid: What is it and what are the symptoms?

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57833394

However, there is a substantial body of research suggesting it becomes increasingly likely with age, and is twice as common among women.

Some, but not all, long Covid symptoms are more common in people who were very ill or ended up in hospital.  

King's College London suggested 1-2% of people in their 20s who had the virus would develop long Covid, compared with 5% of people in their 60s. 

"But 1-2% of 100,000 cases a day is a lot of people," points out Dr Claire Steves, one of the study's authors.

Dr David Strain at the University of Exeter Medical School, who works with long Covid patients said most being referred to his clinic were in their 20s, 30s and 40s. 

That might be because these symptoms, though slightly less common in younger people, have a bigger impact on them.  

It may also be because older people were vaccinated first, so are are more likely to be fully protected. 

But a team of researchers, led by the Great Ormond Street Institute of Child Health, investigated more than 200,000 positive cases among 11 to 17-year-olds between September and March. 

They think that between 4,000 and 32,000 of those were still experiencing symptoms 15 weeks later."

metmike: That's alot of children that survived that are messed up for a long time from COVID.

The best way, by a wide margin to protect from severe COVID and death from COVID and long term COVID......is to get vaccinated!!

"Avoiding densely packed gatherings is another no-brainer for me."

Great for you there too Gunter. The author of your article apparently disagrees with that but no matter. It's a different opinion of his on the FDA.

So there was strong disagreement in the FDA on this topic, enough for a couple of people to resign.

What should we get from this?

The author and you claim that this means we can't trust them now. Of course that was your position BEFORE the resignation and now, of course you will look for evidence to back that position, that's always how the human mind works.

For me, before the resignation and well before COVID existed I long ago stopped trusting in so called omnipotent sources for telling me the science of things that, as a scientist I know enough about to either figure out myself or can tell who is telling the truth or not with extensive fact checking to find authenticity and rule out fake news.

I learned this 2 decades ago while studying climate science.

Why Most Published Research Findings Are False

https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124

But here is where we differ. You and the author want to use this to discredit the FDA because of your opinions on COVID, so that you and others don't use them as a credible source.

But look at the sources that you've been using to replace them:

 Infowars! Fox News! and many others that are all far right to mostly far right sources. Your assumption based on all your sources is that the far right now has the franchise on authentic science.

What does metmike use?

The OBJECTIVE  empirical data, evidence, facts and authentic science of the entire field(not cherry picked anomalies or outlier doctors that  define the far right). I could care less where it comes from or who is reporting it. 

Do I use the FDA?

Hell yes I use them............when their science makes sense based on the empirical data and critical thinking. 

Hell no I don't use them..........when their science doesn't make sense based on the data and evidence.

I use the science to decide what source to believe.

You use the sources in order to decide what science to believe.

You know its true Gunter. The source you used at the top is just another example. I gave you several links to know more about him.  He makes some great points on some items and is wrong about a couple but I would never use him as a source for anything related to COVID because he is very  biased and is missing some key truths about COVID. 

Very smart man that has wonderful points, especially about how the left (mis)treated Trump over COVID.........he nailed that one.