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Started by greenman - Feb. 1, 2021, 9:21 p.m.

i have been trading for 40 years,  been thru 1987 crash,  2001,  2008.  but i have never seen anything as crazy as gme.  

i stated watching closely starting last monday.  thought there might be an opportunity to sell a call because of the immense iv, it got over 600%.  

i finally did sell 1 call a feb 5th. last friday .  gme was trading 325 at the time.  i sold a 600 call.  guess what the premium was.   this was for a call expiring this friday.  nope guess higher.  thats real close,  94 dollars.  $9400  for a stock that could be bought for 32500.

now guess how much margin i had to put   up.  nope guess higher.  not 35000, not even 50000. or 75000, but 100000.  that would cover an exercise at 1700 stock price.  1700 stock  from 350  in one week.

so i spent the weekend worrying,  maybe i made a huge mistake.  i just hoped the stock wouldn't open over 700 monday.  below 700 i could buy the stock and limit my risk to 60000 (if the stock collasped and went to zero)

so today stock opens down slightly  and after an hour gme falls to 250 and i buy back the call for 17.  

i think i'm a genius this time.





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By metmike - Feb. 1, 2021, 9:58 p.m.
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great story greenman thanks for sharing

By MarkB - Feb. 1, 2021, 11:31 p.m.
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Nice move greenman! I didn't partake in all that. But I sure enjoyed watching it happen.

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By joj - Feb. 2, 2021, 12:15 a.m.
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Greenman.

Great trade!  Great Story!  I've got a great story to share with you.  I might be off on a tiny detail or two but the essence of the story is markets can do ANYTHING.  And that has huge implications in the options markets.

Back in 1987 I was a phone clerk on the CME trading floor.  Our company had a phone bank at the S&P futures pit with 3 to 4 clerks manning the phones.  We also had a single phone over at the S&P options desk which I occasionally would work at.  On the Friday before the black Monday crash in October of '87 one of our larger customers called in and asked for a market in the December 300 calls.  We had roughly 2 months to go to expiration and the futures were trading in the 280s that Friday afternoon.   I waved down our broker in the pit and ask for a bid offer in the Dec 300 calls.  "2.80 bid 3.00 offer came the reply".  My customer told me he was short 10 of the 300 calls and submitted a 2.60 bid for 10.  The market was falling so he was anticipating covering for a profit as calls would decline with the falling futures.  The market continued to come his way and he called back 30-40 minutes later and asked what the market was.  I inquired and the reply was "2.60 bid, offered at 3.00."   It broke some more and he called again.  "Still 3.00 offer.  Your 2.60 for 10 is the bid!"  My guy yells into the phone:  "Cancel my bid!"  You're out I confirm.  "What's there now he asks?"  I ask and the reply is "2.50 bid, 3.00 offer."  The bid is dropping but the offer isn't coming down even though futures are dropping due to increasing implied Vol.  My customer yells "F**K it!  I'll let them expire worthless."  They expired worthless but that isn't the end of the story.

This is where the story becomes very memorable all these decades later.  Monday the stock market crashes.  I was working in on the futures phones that day.  We were bombed and were not allowed a lunch break.  One bathroom break each over the 6 hour trading day.  Futures hit a low of 181 on Tuesday (as I recall) then came snapping back to 260 during the week.  I was over at the options desk and hadn't heard back from our guy who was short the 300 Dec calls.  I looked into the pit and there was exactly one market maker in the pit.  Normally it was packed with 20-30 traders.  It was empty.  You may have already guessed why.  Out of curiosity I asked "What is the market in the Dec 300 calls?"  The lone trader, who I now assume had the backing of some large firm's money, says.... (can you guess the market for the 300 calls now that the futures were 25 points lower?).   "30.00 bid 70.00 offer."  I was incredulous not only at the explosion in the price but at the width of the bid/offer and said "WHAT?!!"  The market maker took umbrage at my tone and said, "You want to make a better market?  COME ON IN!  I'm short so much premium it's coming out my ears!  The water is warm."  

I don't know what happened to my customer who was short 10 at 3.00 but given the explosion in margin requirements that week he may have blown out even though he was correct on the direction and even though the market never got back to 300 by expiration.  All the market makers, who are usually short premium, blew out.  Implied Vol hit something like 400% as I recall.

I hadn't thought of that episode in years until you shared your trade Greenman.  

Good trades everyone and remember...  The markets can do anything!