5 ways the military industrial complex is a killer
Congress is poised to add $150 billion to the defense budget this week. Let's take a look at where that goes
Not showing up on the news yet but CNN just broke it.
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Iran 2-21-26
Started by metmike - Feb. 21, 2026, 8:12 p.m.
Let me remind readers that this exact same thing happened less than a year ago with the exact same countries under very similar conditions.
1. Donald Trump and Iran were negotiating and from many reports were close to an agreement, with a peace meeting planned the upcoming weekend, then SUDDENLY Israel bombed Iran and messed it up because they SUDDENLY discovered evidence that Iran was days away from making a bomb.
2. Donald Trump went from negotiating for peace and talking about an agreement with Iran to SUDDENLY bombing Iran because Netanyahu told him to.
3. Then, Donald Trump declared the war between Israel and Iran to be over and added that to his list of wars that Donald Trump has stopped. Seriously, that happened
We'll see if Donald Trump does the same thing as he did last June. Bomb Iran after Israel carried out the first strike. Then declare its over and that he stopped another war...........that he and Netanyahu started and stopped as the most powerful militaries in the world work together.
What will be the justification this time?
That the nuclear weapons program that President Trump insisted was completely obliterated less than 9 months ago came back from the dead and was on the verge of launching a nuclear bomb at Israel again?
Maybe we can make this an annual event.
The US starting out the year by negotiating with Iran. Then, Israel jumping in to stop the negotiations by telling the world that Iran is getting ready to nuke them so they have to attack Iran unprovoked. Then the US goes from negotiating peace to bombing Iran overnight, unprovoked based on nothing between our 2 countries but following Israel.
OK, that question was answered pretty quickly.
The US is bombing/attacking Iran right now and apparently it's a MAJOR strike.
Of course this is against International Law and also was UNPROVOKED.
We don't get to bomb another country because we're unhappy with the negotiations.
That is, unless you have a lunatic leader, Donald Trump. He didn't change the name of the Department of Defense to the Department of War for nothing.
Donald Trump's legacy
1. Stopping fake wars
2. Starting real wars and conducting massive attacks against International Law in numerous places while being unable to stop REAL wars.
3. Taking other countries and planning to take countries based on the justification of Donald Trump who has the most powerful military in the world.
4. Proclaiming that he deserves the Nobel PEACE prize all last year while abusing his military power to create havoc as the worlds most powerful psychopath.
Israel Announces Launch of Preemptive Attack on Iran
28 Feb, 10:35
https://caspianpost.com/iran/israel-announces-launch-of-preemptive-attack-on-iran
“The State of Israel has launched a preemptive strike against Iran to remove threats to the State of Israel,” he said.
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There we have it. Any time Israel or the US want to bomb a country, we can call it preemptive strikes for whatever excuse we want.
Illegal by International standards and by the US Constitution.
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Donald Trump has still not communicated why he is doing this.
He obliterated the nuclear weapons facilities last June. Is this, instead for a regime change?
Now our place in the world is to start wars/attack countries unprovoked if we don't like the regime?
NOW, the US and Israel are destroying FUTURE weapons in Iran BEFORE THEY EVEN EXIST.
Is this part of getting the heat off his crimes as a predator of women/Epstein files, his ruinous tariffs and worst approval ratings ever?
I get that Iran is an evil empire and the huge sponsor of world terrorism but at the same time, Israel is a rogue state run by a psychopath responsible for an ongoing horrific genocide that is still happening.
His partner in crime is the most powerful man in the world!
If Trump is for justice for the protester lives Iran took, then why is he letting Putin get away with his killing?
Netanyahu killed MANY times more innocent people, mostly children in women in Gaza than the number of protesters killed by the current Iranian regime.
How is Donald Trump partnering with a psychopathic, genocidal but charismatic lunatic that has killed so many Palestinians in cold blood but claiming to be standing up for ethical standards against another evil person?
It's a world where the powerful gatekeepers with powerful military's dictate what is right and what is wrong and use that to exploit their military's to do what they want.
Bomb who they want. Kill who they want. Take what we want. Make up the reasons for doing it. Who can stop them? NOBODY! So they exploit their powerful military's and control of the world with their morally bankrupt, sell serving objectives.
Israel and the United States started this!
Psychopaths in Power
Started by metmike - Jan. 20, 2026, 9:33 p.m.
OMG!
I just watched Trump's speech. This is completely unhinged. He's shouting at the top of his lungs half the time.
He's reviewing the history of Iran going back many decades ago and blaming that for part of the reason for this unprovoked attack.
He says that the US completely obliterated all the nuclear weapons program last year but Iran planned to start it up again as part of the reason to bomb them.
Bragging about how the US military is the most powerful military in the history of the world. Hugh? So that gives us the right to bomb the crap out of who we want, when we want, where we want and why we want to do it?????
What a moment we are living in. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That was the president of peace that only settles (8) wars????
When this one ends, if Donald Trump is still president he will insist that this was another war he settled!!!
Egads!
Donald Trump just posted that this is also retribution against Iran for hacking US presidential elections to stop Trump.
Donald Trump On Iran Attack: Watch The Full 8-Minute Statement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paTLHEKn0rc
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Donald Trump tells us in the beginning that this is about defending the United States from Iran, even mentioning the "Death to America" chants which were from Iranian PEOPLE(not just the regime he is trying to over throw) but then it morphs into this being a just cause of a REGIME CHANGE to save the people of Iran (the same ones that were chanting "Death to America") that he was blaming for doing this.
This was last June after the US and Israel bombed Iran, UNPROVOKED.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U6z539fjzc
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What TDS can do to people who ordinarily have sense. "Trump suddenly bombed Iran" by MM. Dear MM.
This started in 1979. Suddenly? This job was left to Trump by thousands of do nothing bureaucrats. Chief on that list has to be obama who dropped billions on Iran instead of stopping Iran he aided them in killing Americans. That was once before Obama, was called treason. Suddenly??
Thanks very much, mcfarm!
"This started in 1979"
That's exactly my point, mcfarm. Donald Trump going back over 4 decades to blame people that have died a long time ago for this attack?
This is 2026! Use criteria based on what is happening right now in 2026 for starting an uprovoked attack on Iran in 2026 NOT 1979, please!
If this is a regime change to supposedly save the Iranian people, then don't, at the same time blame the attack on the Iranian people chanting "death to America"
You KNOW the Iranian people have been doing that for decades.
Does using the words "Death to America in legal protests" for decades in Iran, suddenly in 2026 now justify massive military attacks/bombings from the United States?
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"What TDS can do to people who ordinarily have sense."
mcfarm,
I will consider that half a compliment because you referred to me as "ordinarily having sense"
Just to remind you for the umpteenth time. I voted for Donald Trump in 2016 and again in 2024 and been crystal clear/transparent on the reasons why. A person with TDS would never vote for Trump BY DEFINITION, especially in the last election that helped get him elected.
Iran–Israel relations
More than 50 students have been killed and some 60 more wounded in US-Israeli strikes that hit an Iranian girls' school in Hormozgan province, state media reported, citing a local official. Washington has not commented on the reported strike.
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If this 1 deadly attack killing so many children is true, especially so early in the attack, then this has already backfired massively from the get go. This just gave the Iranian regime the moral high ground with a huge group of innocent martyrs that can't be unseen.
Quite frankly, this is/was inevitable but Donald Trump is unable to see the negative consequences to so many of his ruinous actions because he is blinded by his pathological thinking:
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/117371/
Iran will ALWAYS have the moral high ground advantage in this war.
1. Israel and the United States started it.
2. There was no provocation or imminent threat to the United States or Israel to justify it.
3. The number of innocent people killed will pile up in Iran CAUSED BY Israel and the United States bombing the heck out of Iran.
4. Even if Israel or other countries lose innocent people from Iran's weak attempt to defend itself with missiles in Israel, it's totally justified because Iran was attacked unprovoked.
5. The overwhelming/massive advantage in military strength and firepower for Israel and the United States over Iran, as well as them starting this clearly makes this a David and Goliath story where the US and Israel are huge bullies, using their military's to get what they want from a weaker country.
6. Yes, Iran is an evil empire. No, this is not following International Law. Not following the US Constitution. Not following ethical laws or basic respect for humanity and people that are different than you or weaker than you.
Mike said:
“then it morphs into this being a just cause of a REGIME CHANGE to save the people of Iran (the same ones that were chanting "Death to America") that he was blaming for doing this.”
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Hey Mike,
This is admittedly confusing. However, I can assure you based on my Iranian-American friend’s accurate info that the Iranians chanting “D to A” represent only the ~20% of them who support the Mullahs. In many cases they’re paid by the regime to make them look like they have more support than they really have. So, there really are folks to save, the other 80%.
Edit: That being said, I’m not saying I’m in favor of US/Israel attacking now, especially based on the lack of success/big mess after the fact with regime change in Iraq, Libya, and Afghanistan
My friend prefers the US/Israel stick to covert actions rather than war strikes. He prefers the Iranians against the Mullahs, themselves, do regime change with only covert outside help.
Regardless, Trump isn’t doing this legally since he doesn’t have Congress approval.
Thanks, Larry!
So, there really are folks to save, the other 80%.
In your opinion, what % does the number need to be for the US and Israel to justify bombing/attacking Iran unprovoked?
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Also, as time goes on and there is no regime change with Israel and the United States uniting to decimate their country and kill more and more innocent people, do you think Iranian support will go up or down?
That was a rhetorical question.
It’s clear that if that happens the number of people in Iran that hate the United States will go up by the millions.
As we kill innocent people and get some of our brave soldiers killed while spending billions in tax payer money to enrich the military industrial complex.
Dont let the convincing propaganda from our morally bankrupt, self serving politicians along with like minded diabolical gatekeepers in Israel blind you/us to the stone cold realities of humanity and where this is going.
High Probability of another counter productive Middle East military intervention that backfires like all the other ones.
Propaganda is designed to be very convincing, telling us things that we wish were true. I get that. We must break our minds free from these self enriching crud’s that are stealing our intelligence for their agenda.
mcfarm,
Since you want to believe that history is a reason to justify this attack/war. Let's go ahead and look comprehensively at that history.
I will also ask you, of the many other wars in the Middle East, which ones were successful in the past and why do you think that this one will be different?
The conflict with Iran is the latest in a decadeslong series of regime change operations, long-term entanglements, and all-out wars that always seem to invite more problems
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_foreign_policy_in_the_Middle_East
See also: Iran-U.S. relations, Iran–Contra affair, and Israel's role in the Iran–Iraq war
US-Iran relations drastically changed since the Iranian 1979 revolution. It marked the fall of the Shah and its closeness with the Western world and the takeover of Khomeini with a return to Islamic law. In 1979 the US Embassy in Teheran was caught by protesters, and American civilians were taken hostages.[72] In 1980, the US changed policy to allow Israel to sell American armament to Iran during the war. The deal between US and Israel was coordinated by the State Department Counselor, McFarlane, with US Secretary of State Alexander Haig Jr. and Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin agreeing to a 6 to 18 months period weapons' provision.[73]
This support to Iran was first explained as a way to have back the American hostages. Yet, the hostages were delivered before the US supply of weapons to Iran.[74] This armament provision lasts for more than the established period.[73] This was later known as the Iran-Contra Affair publicly divulgated in November 1985. US supplied weapons to Iran through Israel, and the profit gained went to finance the Contra rebels, opponents to the Nicaragua Sandinista Front
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Please tell me which of these wars and US interference paid dividends for the United States?
I content that every single one made many things worse. Worse for that country. Killing people in that country. Worse for our relations with that country. Costing us our brave soldiers to lose ground. Costing tax payers billions.
What makes this current endeavor an exception to any of that????
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Basically, the difference in understanding the above authentic truths and not is believing in the current propaganda brainwash to justify this current war or seeing the truth.
https://quincyinst.org/militaryindustrialcomplex/
“Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.“
– President Dwight D. Eisenhower, April 16, 1953, “Chance for Peace”
Seventy years ago, President Dwight D. Eisenhower delivered his “Chance for Peace” speech, tallying up the costs of United State’s Cold War militarization and comparing our extraordinary expenditures on weapons to Americans’ unmet needs.
Today, America’s $858 billion war budget is at one of the highest levels since World War II. When the 20 year and $2 trillion war in Afghanistan ended, Pentagon spending went up. Defense spending is now higher than during the peak of the Cold War, or the heights of the Vietnam or Korean wars. America spends more than twice as much as China on its military forces; America spends more on war than the next nine countries combined.
“Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.”
America’s massive military budget fails to keep America safe while enabling Washington’s continued pursuit of global U.S. military primacy, a strategy which has yielded massive, costly failures. “Is there no other way the world may live?” Eisenhower asked. Yes — a foreign policy that emphasizes military restraint and diplomatic engagement and cooperation with other nations will serve American interests and values better than policies that prioritize the maintenance of U.S. global dominance through force.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military%E2%80%93industrial_complex
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_United_States_military_buildup_in_the_Middle_East
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https://quincyinst.org/research/profits-of-war-top-beneficiaries-of-pentagon-spending-2020-2024/#
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Congress is poised to add $150 billion to the defense budget this week. Let's take a look at where that goes
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/defense-budget-reconciliation/
Again, our side, the supposed good side bombing an all girls school and killing at least 60 girls, wounding at least 63 from the get go is a catastrophic blunder that we can’t fix.
This operation was bound to keep killing more and more innocent people with time and gradually erode the support/increase condemnation but for that to happen on a scale this horrendous just hours after we started dropping the bombs has just decimated the credibility of the so called “Good Guys”…….right from the start.
This was a CRIME AGAINST THE IRANIAN PEOPLE.
Especially the attempts to bamboozle people with the idea that we are doing this to free the people of Iran from this oppressive regime.
The only ones that we are truly setting free from Iranian leadership are those we send to Allah…….who weren’t asking for it.