Lots of uncertainty!!
Tropical Storm Melissa Discussion Number 1
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL132025
1100 AM EDT Tue Oct 21 2025
Satellite images, regional Caribbean radar data, and surface
observations indicate that invest 98L has developed a well-defined
center and organized deep convection to be designated a tropical
cyclone. A ship report that recently passed near the center of the
system reported a minimum pressure of about 1003 mb. Satellite
imagery shows the system is asymmetric, with the low-level center
near the western edge of the central dense overcast. The initial
intensity is set at 45 kt, based on a blend of the latest satellite
intensity estimates, marking the formation of Tropical Storm
Melissa. An Air Force Hurricane Hunter aircraft is scheduled to
investigate the system this afternoon, and their data should provide
a better assessment of Melissa's strength and structure.
The system was moving very quickly westward over the past several
days, but it has slowed down significantly this morning, which has
likely helped Melissa form. The initial motion is estimated to be
280/12 kt. Melissa should continue to slow down and gradually turn
to the northwest and then north during the next couple of days
toward a weakness in the subtropical ridge. This motion will likely
take the storm very near the southwestern tip of Haiti and Jamaica
by Thursday. After that time, the guidance diverges significantly
with some models like the GFS and HWRF showing a motion to the
northeast into the weakness, while the other solutions show a stall
or a westward drift on the south side of a building ridge. An
examination of the GFS, ECMWF, and Google DeepMind ensemble suites
suggest that the majority of the members show Melissa not moving
into the weakness and remaining in the Caribbean Sea throughout the
week and into the weekend. The NHC official track forecast lies
between the Google DeepMind ensemble mean track and the correct
consensus aid, HCCA.
Melissa is expected to be over the very warm waters of the
Caribbean, but the models suggest that vertical wind shear will be
moderate with some dry air in the vicinity of the storm during the
next few days. Based on these mixed signals, the strengthening
trend is expected to be slow and steady, not rapid. However, the
future intensity of Melissa is linked to the track and since that is
quite uncertain beyond a couple of days, the strength of the storm
is also quite uncertain. The NHC intensity forecast is in best
agreement with the HCCA model.
Key Messages:
1. Melissa is expected to bring heavy rainfall and the risk of
significant flash flooding and the danger of landslides to portions
of Haiti and the Dominican Republic through the weekend.
2. A Hurricane Watch has been issued for the southern coast and
Tiburon peninsula of Haiti. A Tropical Storm Watch has been issued
for Jamaica. Preparations to protect life and property should be
completed by Thursday.
3. There is significant uncertainty in the track and intensity
forecast of Melissa. Interests elsewhere in Hispaniola and Cuba
should continue to monitor the latest forecasts.
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INIT 21/1500Z 14.3N 71.7W 45 KT 50 MPH
12H 22/0000Z 14.4N 72.8W 50 KT 60 MPH
24H 22/1200Z 14.8N 73.5W 55 KT 65 MPH
36H 23/0000Z 15.3N 74.2W 60 KT 70 MPH
48H 23/1200Z 15.7N 74.5W 60 KT 70 MPH
60H 24/0000Z 16.1N 74.6W 60 KT 70 MPH
72H 24/1200Z 16.5N 74.5W 60 KT 70 MPH
96H 25/1200Z 16.9N 74.5W 65 KT 75 MPH
120H 26/1200Z 17.2N 74.9W 70 KT 80 MPH
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Forecaster Cangialosi/Bucci
Thanks very much, Larry!
Looks extremely active the next 10+ days in the Caribbean, which could impact Southern Florida(but not the Gulf of Mexico).
The activity could be dominated by this 1 system, Melissa that stalls out or moves very slowly.
Water temperatures are very warm in this area but wind shear might be too high for rapid development. However, there is tremendous uncertainty and there is a chance of a major hurricane under the right conditions.
This is the day 10 forecast of the surface low pressure solution for the individual members of the last 0z European Ensemble solution.
Here are some links from the National Hurricane Center to follow Melissa:
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https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at3.shtml?start#contents
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCDAT3+shtml/211445.shtml?
Global water temperatures main page:
https://www.ospo.noaa.gov/Products/ocean/sst/contour/
Some very warm water right now in the Caribbean!
https://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/contour/usatlant.fc.gif
Hurricanes and Sea Surface Temperature
https://ie.unc.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/277/2014/12/Hurricanes-and-sea-surface-temperature.pdf
By Jeffrey Masters, Ph.D. — Director of Meteorology, Weather Underground, Inc.(Jeff and I were in school together-he got better grades than me!)
https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/articles/loop-current-explainer
During summer and fall, the Loop Current provides a deep (80 - 150 meter) layer of vary warm water that can provide a huge energy source for any lucky hurricanes that might cross over.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_Current
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Melissa and the tropical activity is forecast to stay just southeast of the loop current but the point above is THE SOURCE REGION of the loop current.............some of the warmest water on the planet in the Caribbean that is DEEEP!
This area is where the tropics will be most active the rest of October.
This warm water is still there in November which is why most of the Atlantic Basin hurricanes come from this region.
As mentioned yesterday, the forecast for Melissa was very uncertain and under the right conditions, it could become a major hurricane.
That actually is the new/updated forecast today. Major hurricane and a path MUCH farther west.
Still a great deal of uncertainty and potential for huge changes in the forecast track and intensity. The waters in this area, as shown yesterday/above are VERY warm (mid/upper 80s F)
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https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at3.shtml?start#contents
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCDAT3+shtml/211445.shtml?
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Southern Florida is a potential target next week if it follows the most northern path of model predictions.
Considering how warm the water is in this area, the source region for the loop current with its very deep, very warm water (if it tracks far enough west), there is a thread of rapid intensification!
The depth of the warm water is important with a nearly stalled hurricane. Shallow warmth, with a hurricane that churns up colder water to the top can kill a stalled hurricane.
This is day 8: