The Economic Cost of Antivaxers
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Started by joj - Sept. 14, 2025, 6:39 a.m.

Interesting article in the Washington Post.

Aside from the obvious ethical considerations of causing children to die due to nuts like JFK jr, there is also the economic cost.

Health insurance premiums are likely to rise.  The economic cost of administering vaccines is small (dare I say minuscule) when compared to the cost of dealing with outbreaks of measles, small pox and other diseases on the back end.  

My insurer sends me a Cologuard kit for free every year because it's cheaper to catch colon cancer early than to deal with it after it spreads.

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By metmike - Sept. 14, 2025, 10:39 a.m.
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joj,

You nailed it exactly!

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Related to this.

There is a small, SUBSET group of people that DO in fact have significant, negative reactions to the COVID vaccination. Mainly after the 2nd shot. Probably related to their immune systems being stimulated with a mostly POSITIVE impact...... to make life protecting COVID antibodies, also, temporarily making specific antibodies that generate inflammation in their hearts. Those adverse antibodies go away and the people almost always recover, while the protective COVID antibodies continue to circulate in their blood.  

Clinical Considerations: Myocarditis and Pericarditis after Receipt of COVID-19 Vaccines Among Adolescents and Young Adults

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/clinical-considerations/myocarditis.html

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So we should address this reality and assess what it means to this subset group of people at risk. 

 Is the risk from the vaccination greater to their health/lives than the risk to their lives than having COVID?

We know what the answer is for older people and those with compromised health or pre existing conditions. By several orders of magnitude, the COVID vaccination wins. 

We know that the risk/reward shifts drastically for younger people. Less risk of getting really sick/dying from COVID, less reward from getting the vaccination.  In almost all  cases, however the vaccination is still a no brainer, YES for the individual. 

 An additional part of this is the fact that young people don't just hang out with young people all day. They interact with old people. Young people with COVID give it to old people that die from COVID. Vaccinated people that get COVID(the vax doesn't protect them entirely from getting COVID) SHED LESS VIRUS than young people that don't get the jab.

During the pandemic, EVERYBODY was getting COVID. Almost all the young people recovered but they were carriers of the disease. Vaccination make it less likely of getting COVID and they also reduce symptoms and virus shedding in those that do get COVID.

So we should hone in on this small, subset group with the elevated risk of getting serious heart inflammation for a brief period after receiving the 2nd COVID jab.

What is their risk of dying from the vaccination vs what is their risk of dying from the SAME condition if they get COVID?

Turns out, that if they get the actual disease of COVID, this same underlying risk, Myocarditis and Pericarditis is many times MORE SEVERE than if they get it from the shot. They are MUCH, MUCH more likely to die from this if they have COVID than if they get it from the vaccine. 

So the thing that increases the short term chances of getting Myocarditis and Pericarditis actually PROTECTS THEM long term from dying from that same condition when having COVID.

Sort of like the saying "what doesn't kill me, makes me stronger" 

I don't know all the actual, medical/scientific odds for each age and medical group but let's use this to illustrate the principle:

1. For the highest COVID risk groups, the benefits to risks might be 1,000+ to 1

2. For the lowest COVID risk groups, the benefits to risks might only be 10 to 1. 

3. For the subset, highest risk of getting sick from the vaccine group, the benefits to risks are still 10 to 1. 

Why is that?

Because their risk of getting EVEN MORE SICK from  the same side effect that is triggered by the shot is 10 times greater if they get COVID!

And here's the take home point. There are a dozen+ OTHER life threatening conditions that COVID causes and the vaccination protects this subset group from without causing an increased risk.