ENSO-weak La Nina coming up this fall/early Winter?
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Started by metmike - Aug. 27, 2025, 3:54 p.m.
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By metmike - Aug. 27, 2025, 3:57 p.m.
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By metmike - Sept. 3, 2025, 8:10 p.m.
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Latest update here  the first week in September:

The atmosphere is already in a weak La Nina mode. The official La Nina is a lagging indicator.


https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/lanina/enso_evolution-status-fcsts-web.pdf


By metmike - Sept. 3, 2025, 8:15 p.m.
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                 Re: Re: NG 8/4/25+            

                           By metmike - Sept. 3, 2025, 3:48 p.m.            

The map below is from the last 12z GFS operational model at 500 mb (18,00 feet) for Thursday morning. That deep low just north of Lake Superior is a huge piece of  THE POLAR VORTEX! 

We can see a huge kink in the lines, along the ND border with Canada from a strong perturbation/reinforcing wave with the colors representing powerful, positive vorticity(spin) associated with it. It's a strong reinforcement of this very chilly air that is rotating around the backside of the  main/parent Low just north of Lake Superior. 

This is more like a Winter pattern. 

Here's the 250 jet stream(33,000 feet). Note it diving straight south/southeast, transporting air from much higher latitudes/the Arctic to the mid latitudes. The small pink color embedded within the jet stream represents a 150 mph jet streak!!

The piece of polar vortex at this level is also seen just north of Lake Superior.

A jet stream like this in 3+ months means brutally cold temps and a major Winter storm east of the trough line and/or associated with the lift from the jet stream dynamics. We can make out that kink in the isoheights that is northwest of the 500mb level, now much higher up, around the Alberta/ Saskatchewan border in Canada!

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By metmike - Sept. 3, 2025, 8:22 p.m.
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                Global temperatures August 2025            

                            Started by metmike - Sept. 3, 2025, 7:34 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/114391/

By metmike - Sept. 4, 2025, 1:10 p.m.
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Old Farmer’s Almanac winter forecast

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/old-farmer-s-almanac-winter-forecast-here-s-how-much-snow-to-expect-in-texas/ar-AA1LOjx2?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=cfecf4109d044996d7d1072a2c063f15&ei=7


I'm betting this is WRONG because it doesn't fully show the La Nina signature but nobody gets long range forecasts right most of the time. 

When we have a STRONG El Nino or STRONG La Nina, it does in fact increase forecast skill a great deal. This La Nina will be WEAK. 


Here's the last NWS Winter forecast. MUCH different than above because they use the La Nina for much of their reasoning!

https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/long_range/seasonal.php?lead=4


By metmike - Sept. 18, 2025, 6:05 a.m.
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                : USDA September 12, 2025/Grains                                             

                By metmike - Sept. 18, 2025, 12:34 a.m.            

            Eric was in on Wednesday for his wonderful analysis:

Sep 17, 2025: Atypical Tropics | St. Helens Ash | Central US Storms | Western Wildfires...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxdmIK5oJE8


                                    


            

                

By metmike - Sept. 24, 2025, 3:19 p.m.
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Ryan Hall, Y'all is back!

This Winter Is Looking VERY Weird...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRYSdYFyMrw

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Ryan is EXTREMELY BULLISH for wicked cold and major snow storms in the northern half of the country. His forecast reasoning is very solid! Great video. He likes to embellish a bit but that makes it much more entertaining and he's the best at tying that together with providing entertaining, useful(life saving at times) and scientifically legit information. 

By metmike - Sept. 24, 2025, 3:29 p.m.
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By metmike - Sept. 24, 2025, 3:57 p.m.
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NOAA Releases 2025 – 2026 Winter Weather Prediction

https://unofficialnetworks.com/2025/09/22/noaa-winter-weather-forecast-september/

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Here's the NWS link for all the long range forecasts. This article uses Jan-Mar for Winter but METEOROLOGICAL Winter is actually DEC-FEB, so we'll use that instead.

https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/long_range/


This is consistent with Ryan's forecast above. 

Warm anomalies in the Southern US but also up the East Coast to the Northeast. The areas north of that with EQUAL chances are likely to be the battleground, with some very mild days, offset by cold and potentially brutal cold if the Northern Stream/Polar Vortex does what it did several weeks ago (plunge to the US border), extremely rare in Summer. 

The fact that we saw this in August/September makes us dial in some extra cold this Winter based on the tendency for some patterns repeating.

As you might think, where the air mass battleground is, will be the area with the heaviest precip. Much of the green depicted above would be heavy snow. The track of individual storms along the battle ground will determine that. 

We'll be especially watching the NAO and AO for extreme cold signals(with a big negative magnitude) coming from the Northern Stream! The PNA will often determine how far south they can penetrate.


Arctic Oscillation Index, North Atlantic Oscillation Index, Pacific North American Index.

https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/ao.shtml

Ensemble Mean AO Outlook

https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/nao.shtml

Ensemble Mean NAO Outlook


https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/pna.shtml

Ensemble Mean PNA Outlook


By metmike - Sept. 28, 2025, 12:57 p.m.
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Teleconnections Discussion 27SEP25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfcUPcBthTA