Investigating the autopen/pardons
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Started by metmike - June 4, 2025, 10:01 p.m.

Trump's Justice Department to investigate Biden pardons, use of autopen

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/06/03/doj-investigate-biden-pardons/84010776007/

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This is just stupid! REALLY stupid!

After Trumps numerous corrupt pardons............they are questioning Biden's pardons?


                Trumps pardons                       

                                            Started by metmike - Jan. 22, 2025, 7:41 a.m. 

           https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/109647/



After previous presidents use of the autopen, they are acting like it was wrong for Biden to use it?

DOGE was supposed to save taxpayers billions of dollars in government waste.

That's exactly what this is. Complete nonsense that will accomplish nothing productive at tax payers expense.

Presidents have used autopens for decades. Now Trump objects to Biden’s use of one

https://apnews.com/article/trump-biden-pardons-autopen-capitol-riot-1956c5dcb44ecba10cd9b01171ca9efa


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By mcfarm - June 5, 2025, 4:23 p.m.
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Do not know if it was purposeful or not but you miss the obvious reason for the investigation. All pres give stupid pardons. The reason for the investigation was that Biden did not know where the hell he was. Some lakey did the pardons and now the new info is that these pardons where sold for cash. That auto pen might of put someone in jail had he been an aid to a conservative

By metmike - June 5, 2025, 6:16 p.m.
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" and now the new info is that these pardons where sold for cash."

Thanks, mcfarm!

That's my point, This is actually what President Trump is doing and we KNOW he's doing it on a scale much greater than Biden.

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/109647/#112181


The pot calling the kettle black

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_pot_calling_the_kettle_black



By mcfarm - June 5, 2025, 6:31 p.m.
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Now help me understand that one. Trump is selling pardons and releasing all the information. Biden has no clue who he pardoned or why and a aid has got the money and they are releasing nothing of who in the hell signed the pardon....because we only know one thing for sure ....Joe Biden did not operate the auto-pen or know where the hell he was.

By metmike - June 5, 2025, 9:13 p.m.
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Thanks very much, mcfarm!

Biden had major cognitive losses, however the MAJORITY of time he was functioning ok.

He had Sundowning Syndrome for sure!


    Sundowning and dementia                                         

Sometimes a person with dementia will behave in ways that are difficult to understand in the late afternoon or early evening. This is known as 'Sundowning'.

https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/about-dementia/symptoms-and-diagnosis/symptoms/sundowning

What is sundowning?

Sometimes you might see changes in the person’s behaviour in the later afternoon or towards the end of the day. During this time the person may become intensely distressed, agitated and have hallucinations or delusions. This may continue into the night, making it hard for them to get enough sleep.

This is sometimes known as ‘sundowning’ but is not necessarily linked to the sun setting or limited to the end of the day. Sundowning can happen at any stage of dementia but is more common during the middle stage and later stages.

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Sundowning causes confusion in many people with dementia, like Biden. When they are tired or compromised, unlike a younger person that has cerebral reserves, their cognitive functioning completely drops off a cliff. And its not like a younger person that will have gradually less functioning as they get more and more tired.

A person with dementia, can be doing fine all day, then they get tired and suddenly, its like somebody flipped a switch in their heads from on to off.

Biden was likely on meds to treat this as well as other treatment from specialists. This likely helped.

Funny thing is that when he gave his State of the Union speech to prove his competence earlier in 2024, just reading from a teleprompter, I knew for sure they had given him a high dose of some sort of stimulant or dementia meds.

He was reading that teleprompter so dang fast you could hardly understand him!

                Bidens performance            

                            14 responses |              

                Started by metmike - March 8, 2024, 7:24 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/102566/


His handlers and his doctors were extremely aware of this and they tried to manage it as best possible.

They did a great job at hiding it and protecting him but he had a huge, embarrassing sundowners moment during the June debate with Trump. ...............and the rest of the world that was denying it or was clueless realized he was suffering with dementia.

Since Biden was not impacted by sundowning most of the time(and well aware of everything around him and able to communicate ok much of the time), its nonsense to claim that he didn't know about what was being signed with the autopen. This is a such a galactically ridiculous position that will go nowhere because its such nonsense to clear thinking people.

Back to Biden.

A president needs to be the president 24 hours a day.

Not from 8am-6pm on most days, then on some days.........sundowning into the land of confusion and completely unqualified to be the president of the United States.  Which means that he was unqualified PERIOD!

The audacity of them insisting a year ago that Biden was ready for another 4 years.

That's the scandal. Not this autopen BS.

The Biden pardons COULD be a scandal........if not for Trump violating pardoning ethics with more gusto than any president in my lifetime. 


By cutworm - June 5, 2025, 9:43 p.m.
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meet the pardon czar

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/25/nx-s1-5307330/trump-pardon-czar-who-is-alice-marie-johnson

Johnson emphasized that ensuring "safety in the communities" is a top priority when making pardon recommendations. She aims to guarantee that those who receive commuted sentences have not just a second chance but also "their best chance of success."

"I don't want to help people come home and then at the same time they're set up for failure," Johnson said, adding that there would be follow up and check-ins to support those transitioning from prison.

By metmike - June 5, 2025, 9:59 p.m.
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Thanks, cutworm!

Agreed, this was a great pardon and wonderful position for her.


How many of these pardons did she recommend?

                Trumps pardons                                                   

                Started by metmike - Jan. 22, 2025, 7:41 a.m.            

                                        

US President Donald Trump pardoned around 1,500 criminals charged in the January 6 Capitol attack within 24 hours of being sworn in

https://www.unilad.com/news/us-news/donald-trump-response-reporter-pardoning-police-officer-assaulter-614177-20250122

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I would contend that she is recommending legit pardons in addition to the ones that are not legit based on Trump's personal criteria.

Any pardon that this lady recommends is very likely to be based on solid reasoning. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and assume she can't be bought.